Ask The Tech Guys 2019 Transcript

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0:00:00 - Leo Laporte
Well, hey, hey, hey. It's time for Ask the Tech Guys Coming up. I'm just not feeling it how, johnny Jett finally got to Hawaii

0:00:07 - Mikah Sargent
And I'm Mikah Sargent and we answer a printer question. That actually is interesting.

0:00:13 - Leo Laporte
And we're going to show you how to take your DVDs and VHS tapes and put them on your hard drive. All that coming up next on Ask the Tech Guys Podcasts you love. From people you trust. This is Tweet. This is Ask the Tech Guys, with Mikah Sargent and Leo Laporte. Episode 2019 for Sunday, April 7th 2024. Blame the Kombucha. Well, hey, hey, hey, how are you today?

0:00:45 - Mikah Sargent
I'm just peachy keen Leo that's mike, your sergeant that's Leo Laporte, Leo Leo Laporte.

0:00:52 - Leo Laporte
Hello everybody, welcome to ask the tech guys. Show where we get to talk to you over the air about your computer woes, your technology problems. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 888-724-2895. No 867. 888-724-2884. Indeed.

0:01:12 - Mikah Sargent
Did I get it?

0:01:12 - Leo Laporte
right, yes, you did, 888-724-2884. That's the phone number you can call. You can be on just the phone or you can also Zoom us if you want us to put you in the Stargate Right here. That's called twittv.

0:01:30 - Mikah Sargent
And what else. Email You can send text, you can send video, you can send audio and you can also bring toys. You know my first computer.

0:01:39 - Leo Laporte
Was this? That right there? Well, it was a little bigger, it was an Atari 400. I had that right there. Well, it was a little bigger, it was an atari 400. I had been going to play video games at chucky cheese putting the quarters in. I love it, right. Yeah, and I thought, you know, this is dumb, I should buy a game machine I could play at home and save the money. So I bought, uh, the atari video computer system vcs, which is just the game thing. I said, well, this is dumb, I should have a computer. So I upgraded this. And then I said, well, this is dumb, I should have a computer. So I upgraded this. And then I said, well, this is dumb because it's got a terrible keyboard. It was a membrane keyboard, was it membrane?

at the time too, so I got the 800, yeah, wow, but somebody I probably should have the address I don't has put out a mini version of my first real computer, the Atari. And when I the atari, when I say mini, it is oh my gosh, it's so cute, it's so cute, oh my gosh, it's so cute. And I think this works.

The membrane you would have to have tiny little mouse fingers, and and this is where this doesn't open this is where you'd put the cartridges, because it has a stylus. And it comes with a full-size joystick though, which is good, because you really wouldn't want with a tiny little joystick. I just got this in the mail. This is so cute. In the uk that's people who've ever played atari video games will recognize that that would it would. This part would break so quickly. Well, probably not really that quickly, but after many, many and look, it has a. It has a joystick connector, but it's usb these days, not whatever. That weird should we play? I would love to see. Shall we play a game? We shall all right?

This, uh, connects up to your tv. In the old days you probably don't remember this the video game systems would have a box that would connect to your antenna on your tv oh really. And then you have a switch on it that would switch it into it, so you and you turn to channel three. I do remember turning to channel three, yeah, and you'd watch the game. So that's what this had, but now it's got an HDMI port. It's actually pretty sophisticated.

0:03:30 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, it's got a lot of ports on it.

0:03:32 - Leo Laporte
Where's the here?

0:03:35 - Mikah Sargent
read the oh, and it's printed so well too.

0:03:38 - Leo Laporte
It's printed in 18 languages. It feels like every time, nowadays, everything is printed in Kusenleitung. It feels like every time, nowadays, everything is printed in Kusenleitung, every. Yeah, I have a feeling this is not an American product, but I think it's licensed, go straight to the Deutsche. I think it's licensed. Anybody remember your Atari 400? Any of you have one of those? Excuse me, it's the Auspacken, auspacken, auspacken's 400.

0:03:59 - Mikah Sargent
Überprüfen Siedeln inhalt I love German I.

0:04:02 - Leo Laporte
I love German what a great language it's such a cool language. It's such a silly. It's a silly language. It's the tuba of languages. I don't know what this is. Oh, this might be power. I don't know. Love it. That's in the same original hideous Atari. Beige, gray or green. Was it a green gray? I think it's a green gray.

0:04:22 - Mikah Sargent
That was the computers came in those days on the front from left to right is player one. Port player two port player three player one port on the back.

0:04:31 - Leo Laporte
This is power. You know what burke I'm gonna need? They don't give you a yeah, power dongle, I'm gonna need a usbc. There's one right next to me. You must have known. You must have known what I was up to. I don't know how you knew.

0:04:44 - Caller
I didn't warn you it's the cable that you had in your hand earlier, I think oh, that one clever.

0:04:52 - Mikah Sargent
I need a any, not an audi can you temporarily unplug your macbook and just use the. Oh yeah, I could do that sure that's a good idea.

0:05:02 - Leo Laporte
I could power it from the MacBook. You could also do that yeah. Wouldn't that be novel? What?

0:05:06 - Mikah Sargent
a novel idea.

0:05:08 - Leo Laporte
My most recent computer. With my first computer, either I've gotten very small or this no either. I've gotten very big, or? This computer has gotten very small, all right. So this I think we'll go into this. I got it, burke, I think you're right. I think I have an INI right here and that goes into Zubik.

0:05:30 - Mikah Sargent
Oh, oh, no, it's USB-C on the back. The power is USB-C, it wants.

0:05:35 - Leo Laporte
What's this USB-A then? That is for the. It actually isn't labeled here, but power adapter is USB-C next to the power, so I need a USB-A adapter here. You got one there for those for me.

0:05:47 - Mikah Sargent
Or you could just unplug your MacBook and plug that. Oh, I see what you're saying.

0:05:52 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, Doy. No, I got plenty of juice. It's right here. I just do this. Oh no, you got it. Okay, Look at that. Burke is so good Burke's. He's even doing it without getting on camera. That is impressive. That's impressive. You'd never know Now this goes into the. Hdmi port. This has a bunch of games on it right?

0:06:17 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, it's got four games built in.

0:06:20 - Leo Laporte
Okay, there's an extra HDMI port.

0:06:24 - Mikah Sargent

0:06:25 - Leo Laporte
Oh yeah, we don't want to mess with that. Oh, I see it's way over there. Is it on my side? Could you plug it in over?

0:06:31 - Mikah Sargent
there, yes, I can.

0:06:34 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, this is so silly. This is the good old days. I may be the oldest person around. I don't know if any of you remember this Atari, I was too cheap to buy an Apple computer. Okay, Okay.

0:06:50 - Caller
You press the one button, Mike, until the input, and then you'll see it.

0:06:58 - Leo Laporte
Okay, are we booting up? Do I have to do anything? There's a power button. Oh, there's an on button. Yeah. Yeah, oh, the light just power button. Oh, there's an on button. Yeah, yeah, oh, the light just came on oh the light, the light.

0:07:09 - Mikah Sargent
Let me make sure that.

0:07:10 - Leo Laporte
It'd be fun if I could program an Atari Basic. I did that, you know I would. Oh, oh, yeah, you see it's English, yeah, okay, and then F to select top to next. I don't understand. Let's see what the it must be this button yeah let's see what the different buttons are System reset option.

0:07:36 - Mikah Sargent
So the F button is that red button, the joystick button and then the top button just means you take the joystick and point it to the top.

0:07:44 - Leo Laporte
Oh, I press top. Yeah, do I want 60 hertz or 50?

0:07:47 - Mikah Sargent
hertz. I think if you're in north america you're supposed to choose 60 hertz. I can't get it to go there. Uh go, just yeah.

0:07:53 - Leo Laporte
There you go okay, run television test, here we go it says run television test kick it to the left, I think it to the left, I think Joystick to the left. Oh, joystick to. Oh, maybe the joystick. Oh, I get it, I had the joystick.

0:08:09 - Mikah Sargent
Ah, yes, wrong, no, so joystick should be in the top left corner, the button. Oh sorry, the button should be in the top left corner. Okay, a four-way button ring? Oh wait, is there? Are? Are there? I bet there are little buttons on there. There's four, it's a.

0:08:30 - Leo Laporte
This is something that atari didn't have. There we go television test. Press that to accept settings. I think I'm going to accept it because frankly, I don't see what's going on here. Oh golly. Okay, select is F Run television test, I guess I have to yeah the button on the left.

0:08:58 - Mikah Sargent
Where should this button be? Okay, so the button should be in the top left corner. Ah, that's why there we go. And then now to there we go.

0:09:07 - Leo Laporte
Okay, what game do do you want to play? I'll tell you what I want to play. Oh, battle zone was the one I spent so much time at chucky cheese losing money on. Uh, I wish you could hear it. Is there audio? Uh, we can look centipede, you know what I love from the tv directly, wouldn't it? Yeah, we'd have to have it on the arc port. Let's just, we're not going to do this for too long. That's the best game of all time, star raiders yeah, uh, missile command.

I really liked minor 2049 that looks like fun.

0:09:34 - Mikah Sargent
Oh, it's like a donkey kong I played this a lot.

0:09:37 - Leo Laporte
Oh, we have a. We have a. We're gonna turn up the audio oh, okay. Does that sound familiar? Or what? By Bill Hogan? This is oh God, this brings back memories of my youth, Except I wasn't that young. Oh, I need this shovel.

0:09:58 - Mikah Sargent
Niner, 49er, Niner Da A's daughter.

0:10:02 - Leo Laporte
I fell off the edge.

0:10:03 - Mikah Sargent
Oh wait, you can't fall off the edge. No, that's very high. You're right, the realism of this game I'm impressed.

0:10:11 - Leo Laporte
It's so realistic.

0:10:14 - Mikah Sargent
Oh, you need that little. How do I get?

0:10:17 - Leo Laporte
it though. Ah nice, Do I need the thermos? What is that? Oh, he really can't handle falls. No, falls for him. Anyway, we shouldn't play this all day, but you see what fun it's very.

0:10:33 - Mikah Sargent
I mean, I remember mine is talking about all these little things. It's like Donkey Kong a little bit.

0:10:39 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, I got to get the Levi's.

0:10:44 - Mikah Sargent
Like I don't know about that one. Oh, so close, close, all right enough, said.

0:10:51 - Leo Laporte
anyway, look at that that's so cool. I don't remember where I got it great score enter your name. Wait a minute. This is the most oh no. Anyway, there you go. I'm going to bring this home and attach it permanently.

0:11:13 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, there you go.

0:11:14 - Leo Laporte
To a television set. You can press the button to get away from this. Look at all the games, though. Doesn't that look like fun?

0:11:21 - Mikah Sargent
That does look like fun. That's awesome. I think there's 40 games in there I don't remember a lot the. Electra Slide.

0:11:27 - Leo Laporte
But Centipede. Some of the classics are in here Boulder Dash Missile Command, boulder Dash Berserk Battle Zone is a lot of fun. There's Asteroids, you remember that?

0:11:37 - Mikah Sargent
right, asteroids. Do you ever play Asteroids?

0:11:38 - Leo Laporte
Oh, absolutely how I got started. Actually, pong was that looks fun. Seven cities of gold, o'reilly's mine missile command, that was minor 24. Now, millipede is a great game. Millipede's, you played that. Oh, I loved mule a turn-based strategy game. Yeah, mule is a is like it was like a real ooh, gather resources yeah that's my kind of game yeah, you would like mule.

I played a lot of mule in the day, back in the day. I feel like that was a ch Crawford joint, but I might be wrong. Anyway, there you go. There you have it. There is, I'll find out where to get it. Actually, has the chat room found it yet Futuristic since forever, is that it? I think our Discord is so good at this kind of research. Won't you take me to Funky Town? Oh, all the animated GIFs. Let me get down there. Is that it? Yeah, the Atari 400 Mini. Thank you At Ataricom. Wait, it's Atari's own. Oh well, yeah, it has to be. Atari doesn't really exist anymore, except in this kind of weird $119.99, $2,120. That was a lot less than I paid for the full time. I was going to ask you how much yeah.

Yeah, it was probably $250, something like that. I couldn't afford an Apple II which was over $1,000. 25 8-bit classic games and you can connect up to four joysticks so you can buy more joysticks. So you said it was $250?. I don't know what was the year, oh, in 1978, 79, something like that. I don't remember when it was.

0:13:20 - Mikah Sargent
I think you may have paid $250. That would be $5,000. $1,190.33 in today's dollars Wowza.

0:13:31 - Leo Laporte
Wowza, wowza, wowza. So this is going to be a fun day today because we have a live in-studio audience for Twit coming up in a couple of hours. We have chairs all set up. This is very exciting. Probably people will start to dribble in. Let's hope they don't dribble on us yeah let's, but, uh, they will start to dribble.

Join us, yes, that'll be fun. John ashley, behind the console uh, but mostly this is all about answering your questions. Johnny jack coming up at 1 pm, about an hour and a half from now, uh, to join us. Our travel guru, guru guide. Anything else we want to talk about? No, there weren't a huge number of stories today, so I'll save those for twit later. Normally we do. I should mention one thing the guy you know rap genius. The website I do at geniuscom it's fall up. The guy who founded it uh, mabad magdam passed away at the age of 41.

0:14:26 - Mikah Sargent
It's kind of sad yeah, that wasn't the time before you could really get lyrics anywhere else. He started that.

0:14:32 - Leo Laporte
It was really nice and it was so successful, that rap artists would go in there and say no. No, you misunderstand, that's not what I was saying. Yeah, that kind of thing really a great story uh, yeah, and that's right.

0:14:43 - Mikah Sargent
It evolved from just being it was kind of like what was cool about it was what is cool about it. It's a sort of community of not just pacing the lyrics themselves but also trying to interpret them, and I love, though they'll sometimes uh, it's sort of wikipedia like, and that they will reference different um interviews and things like that, so you can learn what somebody was actually trying to say whenever they were writing.

0:15:07 - Leo Laporte
It's very important, right, yeah. He then went on after Rap Genius to do Everipedia, which I don't remember. I've never heard of that More inclusive, accessible online encyclopedia Great idea. He was a pianist fluent in Persian French, arabic. Uh he uh was a pianist fluent in persian, french, arabic and english and an angel investor uh, passed away at the age of 41 due to a brain tumor.

Oh, that's so sad, sad, sad story. I don't like to always I don't like to do sad stories, but that one I think you know he you got to acknowledge the people who made the world we live in today. Uh, it's really important. Apple also added a game emulator. Speaking of the atari, that's what allows so yeah, so somebody's going to be making an atari game simulator, so you probably just buy that instead of I think this is, but this is unique.

0:15:58 - Mikah Sargent
It's a unique thing. Yeah, it's so cute, it's nostalgic it's.

0:16:02 - Leo Laporte
uh, I think maybe we should feed this to lily and see if she turns into a centipede or something Just like that. It's a memento for me. A trophy of my ute. It's very cute. Yeah, Thank you Atari for making that. This is serial number 12,505. So it's unique, One of a kind. I think we should do calls. Do we have any calls this? Is it too early?

0:16:28 - Mikah Sargent
well, I gotta call them. Gain them into the room.

0:16:31 - Leo Laporte
Calls I got calls remember jingle jangle star six to unmute yourself it's funny that atari has come back as a company, but a retro company.

0:16:46 - Mikah Sargent
Right, exactly, isn't that lovely.

0:16:49 - Leo Laporte
Futuristic since forever, it says on their homepage. It's the 25th anniversary of Roller Coaster Tycoon. God, I love that game and you can buy. It. Looks like a full-size version of their Atari 2600, which is kind of cool. Caller star six to unmute, star six to unmute. You can also buy sneakers Atari, atari sneakers. Hello, hey, what's your name, your first name, and what city are you calling from?

0:17:17 - Caller
Hi, it's David. I'm calling from Ontario, canada. Hello David, welcome. What can we do for you today? Hi, I'm interested to know if you can help me out. I'm trying to connect an Apple TV to a projector. That's it, and I'm having difficulty because there's only well, no, because there's only an HDMI coming out of the back. Oh, what do you have on the projector? I just have an HDMI going from the Apple TV to the projector. Oh, and you want the audio. I want to put the audio over to something else.

0:17:52 - Leo Laporte
Audio, as you notice with this little game, goes over the HDMI as well. In fact, ideally that's the way you want to have audio, because this has the most bandwidth. Do you have on your projector? Uh, anything like an audio output port or a speaker port.

0:18:11 - Caller
I don't, unfortunately. Uh, I have what. It's connected through the ceiling. I only have uh hdmi cable running up through the ceiling and I want to. I have speakers down that I'd like to plug it into like a sound bar bar et cetera.

0:18:23 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, but Well, that's not hard to do, I'm just. I feel like, can you look at the back of the projector or is it embedded?

0:18:32 - Caller
I can look at the back of the projector. Yes, yeah.

0:18:35 - Leo Laporte
Have you looked at it to see if there's audio out?

0:18:39 - Caller
I believe there is, but you know, possibly an audio out.

0:18:43 - Leo Laporte
I guess Too hard. There is possibly an audio out. I guess I'd have to run the wires back down through the ceiling back down to the. I'm sure whoever installed that thing did you install it.

0:18:54 - Caller
No, it's just a cable running through the ceiling, so I'd have to run it down through.

0:18:58 - Leo Laporte
Whoever installed it obviously had a provision for audio going to speakers. In fact, you might look around where the speakers are see if there's wires coming out of the wall. But uh, if you can't, yeah, you can split the hdmi coming out of the apple tv yeah, still gonna need wires probably yeah, I mean.

0:19:16 - Mikah Sargent
So here's the thing. There are a couple of ways um to to make this happen. Um you, the apple tv if it's a newer apple tv, uh technically has bluetooth compatibility. Um, I don't recommend that for the best sound possible?

yeah, um, although that's what you use for airpods, right yes, that is what you use for airpods, so you could have a pair of home pods. That's what I was going to say, and that's different because that uses AirPlay, so it's over Wi-Fi. So if you had HomePods HomePod Mini or HomePod then it becomes a simple process. You just have to have them plugged in and you can route audio to them. You don't have to worry about extra cables. But we did see, and there are multiple options for what's called an HDMI audio extract extractor, which is what some folks have posted in the discord and essentially, right, that's what I heard, yeah yeah, that will.

You plug hdmi into one end and then out comes hdmi, but also a couple of ways to get audio out that goes to a separate place, so you could then plug the speakers into that if you didn't yet buy the speakers, or you were lucky and you bought a soundbar that supports AirPlay that's easy. Then you're sold, that's wireless You're good to go. Yeah, because it'll do it over Wi-Fi, so it's going to be good, high quality audio that'll have less lag than if you were doing something like Bluetooth. Have you bought the speakers yet?

0:20:47 - Caller
I have a soundbar that I was using, but it doesn't have the. It can't do that. But I do have some AirPod minis that I have. I didn't think they were connectable to the Apple.

0:20:53 - Mikah Sargent
TV. They absolutely are. Yeah, Especially if you have two of them, you can use them as a stereo pair with your television and basically it, you know, puts that full, more full audio into the space. So what you do yeah, it's actually, it's a pretty cool thing so you'd put them in, you know, to the left and to the right of the screen, and then what you have to do is go into the home app and make sure that they are in. They're listed in the home app in the same room, sure that they are in. They're listed in the Home app in the same room as the Apple TV.

And then on your Apple TV you go into the settings and you go into audio output and at that point it'll recognize oh hey, you've got two HomePods in here, Would you like to use those as your audio output? And then it will use those as your audio output, so you'll have kind of left and right audio. It's technically sort of virtualized, fuller than that. The one thing with HomePod minis is I found that if you are using those because I was using those temporarily until I found somebody who was selling another first generation HomePod, at which point I replaced them the audio has to be louder, you have to have the volume turned up a little bit more, Because they're little.

Yeah, because they're little things for it to be kind of the same. So once you get past the sort of discomfort in your mind of seeing that volume near the top of the meter and just go, oh right, but this is just what it needs to be at for me to actually hear it, then it's fine. But that was kind of for me at first. I'm going why do I have to have it up this loud? But it's not louder, it's just that's how loud it needs to be for it to sound full and good.

0:22:37 - Leo Laporte
Apple doesn't expect you to have wires. They don't like wires. They're not going to do it.

0:22:40 - Mikah Sargent
They want you to do wireless speakers and I've been using HomePods two of them as my speakers for a very long time now. It's very consistent, Sounds good, and it sounds great because I've got HomePod HomePods, not HomePod Minis. The HomePod Minis, as I mentioned, I used for a little while while I was waiting for another HomePod first gen to make its way to me and it was OK, but you would have a better experience.

0:23:08 - Leo Laporte
And, by the way, airpods would work also. In fact, yesterday I was watching a show. Lisa was in bed. I don't want to keep her up, so I put in my airpods. And it's funny, you don't. You forget you're watching with headphones, because it really they spatialize it in some sort of way. In fact, if you turn your head, the sound still comes from where over there, from the tv. So you really forget very quickly that you're listening on headphones and it's like you're listening in the room. So if you have AirPods or AirPod Pros or AirPod Pro Max and you pair those to the Apple TV, at least in the interim, it's a great way to listen. Of course, it's just you.

0:23:38 - Mikah Sargent
You can't Can you have one, yeah, no, that's great. You can share audio to one other pair of AirPods, so you could have two sets of AirPods.

0:23:46 - Leo Laporte
Oh, that's interesting. We'll have to try that. It sounds actually surprisingly good. It might even be better than speakers.

0:23:52 - Mikah Sargent
Come to think of it, the biggest thing about it is Apple really has nailed the syncing between the video and the audio, and that's where it matters.

0:23:59 - Leo Laporte
Don't do it with any other Bluetooth headphones. Do it with AirPods, yeah, other Bluetooth earphones.

0:24:03 - Caller
Do it with AirPods. Yeah, I do have the two mini, so I'll definitely give those a try. The latest generation of the larger HomePods, the big ones.

0:24:14 - Leo Laporte
The HomePods. That's what I meant to say.

0:24:16 - Caller
The big ones Do they work with Bluetooth as well? They're.

0:24:21 - Mikah Sargent
AirPlay, and those work exceptionally well, he likes that.

If you ever decide you wanted to make that upgrade, I can highly recommend it. They sound great, they have the latest processing in them, so it's going to be a better experience. And then also, apple has a if you find yourself having trouble hearing dialogue. They also have an enhanced dialogue option with those second generation home pods. That I found to be really well balanced, to where it isn't obvious that the mix has been redone, but it's good that it rises above the rest of the sound, so it's funny.

0:24:54 - Leo Laporte
I have options. I have in the bedroom. I have a very nice pair of ELAC very high end speakers with a very high end codec and I can listen to music on that. But I also have a pair of the new HomePods and I have to say they're doing some processing that makes it kind of sound better. It's pure psychologically. It's not as probably as perfect, as clear, but it does sound better somehow, and maybe that's the spatial.

0:25:20 - Mikah Sargent
And somebody has pointed out in the chat. This is a great point. Um, you can always go for refurbished home pods. If you get refurbished products directly from Apple, they come with a good warranty.

0:25:30 - Leo Laporte
They have a lot of like new.

0:25:31 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, so you can save 50 bucks on a second gen home pod. Thanks Joe In the chat for that.

0:25:38 - Caller
Yeah, that's great. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate the help and, uh, I am a club member. You guys are doing an amazing job, thank you. So keep it up and I look forward to continue listening. Thank you.

0:25:49 - Leo Laporte
Both of you. We really appreciate your support. Ok, take care. Yeah, the club is, if you don't know, is how we are trying to monetize these days, because add support for all podcasts not just ours, but all podcasts is dwindling and we are a little concerned that, frankly, it'll dwindle to the point where we, like many other podcast networks and podcasts, will have to go out of business, uh, or or, as we've already done, severely curtail what we do. We've already cut back, uh, but our hope is that by creating a club and asking you to join the club, we can maybe fill the gap and continue to do what we do.

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0:30:12 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, you thought. Oh, I thought I was talking to that person. How?

0:30:16 - Leo Laporte
you know. I mean, how good can you get? Yeah, all right now, with the permission of our esteemed producer. Yes, now I'm going to pick up on the caller. Okay.

0:30:30 - Mikah Sargent
James, there we go. Welcome to Ask the Tech Guys and soon welcome to the Stargate.

0:30:41 - Caller

0:30:42 - Leo Laporte
Hey, what's your first name and where are you calling from?

0:30:46 - Caller
James, southern California Hi.

0:30:48 - Leo Laporte
James Come on down.

0:30:51 - Caller
I've been listening to you since you were on AM way back when.

0:30:55 - Leo Laporte
Wow On KFI in beautiful Los Angeles, california. Yeah, just a few years ago. I was thinking this the other day. I was thinking I was on the radio in Los Angeles for 19 years. That's a whole. Why aren't I more famous and rich? That's what I was thinking.

0:31:12 - Mikah Sargent
That's what I was thinking. Were you eating caviar at the time? Is what we want to know.

0:31:17 - Leo Laporte
James, what can we do?

0:31:18 - Caller
for you Two questions. I've been listening to a lot of your shows and how come I haven't heard you guys talk about Google killing the podcast app?

0:31:29 - Leo Laporte
well, they in theory. Now, actually, this is interesting. You said this. First of all, it only happened a couple weeks ago. We did mention on other shows we didn't mention. Actually it was yesterday was the last day, and they replaced it with YouTube music. But it doesn't do as good a job. In fact, I'm getting complaints from audience members that they are not getting their, I think, twig of all things this week in Google didn't download this week YouTube. I mean Google, google. It's inexplicable. There's a term in soccer, european football, called own goal, where you kick the ball into your own net and the other guys get a point.

0:32:10 - Mikah Sargent
Listen, I only did that once, Leo, and I'll never do it again.

0:32:15 - Leo Laporte
I think Google is the king of own goals. I mean they continually, and it's frustrating for us as podcasters. I don't understand it. Did you like Google podcasts, james?

yeah, I had all your shows listed and, with this downloaded, it played easily you know, what I liked about it on the android device was I could have an icon for each show, just like a you know an app, and so it was very easy for me to hit the show I wanted. I had a whole whole page of show icons. Yeah, I love Google Podcasts. So, as of yesterday, it's completely.

0:32:50 - Caller
I was trying to use it. I think April 1st was the last day and then it allowed you still to enter into yesterday, so you do have until July 30th to export your podcast subscription.

0:33:03 - Leo Laporte
So what I would suggest is that you don't attempt to do it in YouTube music A, because really you're going to end up paying for YouTube music, which, of course, is their whole point. Google Podcasts is free. They want you to pay for YouTube music, export it and put it in something free like Pocket Casts, which we like quite a bit. So just find another podcast, in other words, find another podcast player, and I have to say what this does for me is it makes me not want to use Google stuff, and when Google announces new products, you, you better bet most people are thinking twice about adopting them. It's very frustrating, extremely.

0:33:37 - Caller
So my question actually for you, though, is I have an Odie but goodie question oh kiddo question.

0:33:46 - Leo Laporte
Okie dokie, I still use this. Oh, look at his Newton. Oh, look at that little Newton.

0:33:50 - Caller
It's still my daily note taker. It's still. That's amazing. That's incredible.

0:33:55 - Leo Laporte
That's amazing, james. I have three or four. If you need one, I'll send you. I still have my one megabyte. Yeah, I have a few of those. Oh my gosh.

0:34:07 - Caller
This is the static card?

0:34:08 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, do you also have an Ethernet card so you can get online with it? Yes, I do Remember the modem card had the little pop-out I don't know. I guess the Ethernet card would too A little pop-out thing for your jack to get connected to go into. Wow, I love that you're still using how's the handwriting recognition, is it pretty good? It's good you've there. You go see, look at that. That's the see how that pops out so you can snap the ethernet cable in. Isn't that hysterical? Wow, oh, I should just send you my trove of useless newton stuff. Everyone. You know what's cool about it. It doesn't use rechargeables.

0:34:45 - Mikah Sargent
You put a battery in it oh, that's because I was about to ask about that, yeah yeah, double a's, yeah.

0:34:51 - Caller
So my question, though, is my g3 that I used just to back this up finally just died, oh no. So I don't know how to, I don't know what to, how to back this up anymore now.

0:35:04 - Leo Laporte
Were you connecting it with the serial cable to the yeah Wow, um, that is obscure. Is there a Newton? Is there a Newton user support somewhere? There must be five or six people who still use Newtons. Uh, I'm you think I'm joking. I think that's probably the number. Um, I loved, loved the new by the way, I was.

0:35:26 - Caller
You have something that's. You have something that's this small, that could fit in my pocket.

0:35:31 - Leo Laporte
Just that's produced as handwriting that's also a great way to meet girls. They go. What the hell is that? What are? You are you from the future because it looks a little bit like it is futuristic.

0:35:42 - Mikah Sargent
But it's a little star trek, right? Yeah, it is futuristic, but it's a little Star Trek, right. Yeah, are you from the future? The only thing that could come close, I think, and it's not quite slim enough, but the iPad mini no no, no, no, he wants to keep using his Newton? No, no, no. But he said what is another option that also does? If I can't, yeah, if he can't get to work.

0:36:00 - Leo Laporte
A mini would be a good choice.

0:36:02 - Mikah Sargent
It's a little bit thicker but it does do the finger or the handwriting recognition.

0:36:06 - Leo Laporte
You can write with an Apple Pencil, maybe even a little bit better, and you can use the pencil.

0:36:09 - Mikah Sargent
And you don't have to have a G3 to back it up. You don't need a G3.

0:36:13 - Leo Laporte
There are many good. There's good notes. There's notability. There are very many. I use notability, but there are a lot of really good choices. That's built into the UI.

0:36:25 - Caller
I mean yeah, I don't want to.

0:36:26 - Leo Laporte
I have the iPad Pro.

0:36:28 - Caller
I have the iPad Pro, oh, okay, I can do all that, but when I need something in my pocket, this is the smallest and this has been the most convenient.

0:36:36 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, but the Mini's bigger than that.

0:36:38 - Caller
It's thinner, but bigger dimensions. It's also lighter. Yeah, that's true.

0:36:43 - Leo Laporte
I think you could still sink that I I know.

0:36:46 - Mikah Sargent
I just want you to be able to keep using this. I know I give you new things I've had this.

0:36:51 - Caller
I've had this since 95, yeah that's so cool that you're 30 years he's been using that thing I think, I think I think I paid like 2500 for this. Oh yeah, holy moly well.

0:37:03 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, no wonder why you hey, burke, can you bring me one or two or three newtons, whatever you can find.

0:37:07 - Mikah Sargent
They're in my, they're my museum we are kind of um sort of keeping this going because then more of the people who are listening who are also, uh, geeks, nerds, uh, so it has a serial port on it.

0:37:20 - Leo Laporte
you can get a serial to us connector, so it's not a problem in terms of getting that connected. What it is is an issue of what it will look like to the computer that you're connecting it to.

0:37:34 - Mikah Sargent
Can it just be a hard drive? Yeah, because if it could, yeah, if you could plug it in and it kind of treats it like a flash drive, so to speak then, boom, you're good you could back it up.

0:37:43 - Leo Laporte
What software were you using before on the G3? I was using the newton soft and you should back up. Yeah, so clearly that's not gonna work anymore. Um, yeah, that's it. Those are the. These are the. Uh, I have a pretty. They're starting to stick together. You got to separate them every every few years oil them down a little bit.

So, uh, which do you have? Do you have the 2000, the 130? Oh yeah, the orig. Wow, that's so cool. I mean, you know, I do think it kind of feels like you're you're living in the future with this thing. It's kind of cool actually that's the, that's the 100 oh, you have a more recent one. Is this the 130?

0:38:21 - Mikah Sargent
I don't I don't has the oh yeah, You've got your modem card.

0:38:26 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, and you have a stylus? Yeah, I don't think I have a one 30. I think I only have hundreds and the 2000, 2000,. I guess I missed out on one of them. A pen comes out of it. Yeah, isn't that nice. It's right there in that little slot slot. I'm curious. I have a bunch of cards in these things. I should just send you this stuff. You get spare parts. I'm trying to think.

0:38:50 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, have you tried using an adapter? That'd be the first thing I'd do is get a USB serial to.

0:38:57 - Caller
Nothing. The computer looked at me like what. I wonder if using Linux.

0:39:02 - Leo Laporte
I just don't know what the Newton sends. This is actually a great project, james. Here's a great project for you. You might have to write your own code. Here you go, somebody's already done it. Never mind, it's on GitHub, the GitHub account Newton Research. Thank you, scooterx. He has written a tool this is hysterical. A tool this is hysterical. Obviously you're not alone Called NCX, the Newton connection for Mac OS X, and the idea of this is you can back up to your Mac desktop, import and export dates, names, notes and Newton works, install packages and use your Mac desktop keyboard and your text on your Newton.

That is truly amazing. So this is on GitHub. This is going to take a little bit of skill, probably, to install. Nobody's done anything to this in two years. That was the last commit.

It is an Xcode project, so you would need on your you have a Mac, james, I have an M1. M1. You have a modern Mac. I should have asked. So, on a modern Mac, you'd run Xcode and you'd download this and you'd run it. It's an Xcode project and it would build something for you that would, in fact, even describe how to build it.

Um, this, they said xcode 8, which is pretty old, so I'm sure it'll still work in xcode, uh. But you know the the the trail to follow is these guys, newton research. Who the heck are they? They, uh, they have other newton, so somebody is out there supporting the Newton, and that's pretty cool. So this is the first place I'd go Talk to this fella and see, and you could leave him a message, if he's still around, and find out what's going on. But you could. So, in other words, with the right cable, which is the usb, uh to serial port, so you could plug it into the newton, and then I have it to the us, the usb to the usbc, as I have like two connectors they might make these days a usbc to serial.

Who knows? You know there's, there's always going to be somebody. Where is the serial port on this thing I'm trying to? Where do you connect?

0:41:24 - Caller
that it's on the side. There's a, there's a rubber oh yeah, I see it.

0:41:30 - Leo Laporte
Oh, that's a weird. So it's not even a stand, it's a din connector. So it's not even a standard connector, is it?

0:41:37 - Caller
no, yeah, that's, you know apple, you know exactly proprietary well, but I think that that is not completely proprietary, but it's just.

0:41:46 - Leo Laporte
It's not as common as the db25. That's a din serial. So yeah, you may have to dig around, you might even have to get out, break out the soldering iron. How's your soldering oh? My lord, uh, it's not hard to make too bad. Yeah, it's may have to dig around. You might even have to break out the soldering iron. How's your soldering?

0:41:56 - Caller
Oh my Lord, it's not hard to make.

0:41:57 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, it's not hard to make a cable. You have to get either end and you solder it together. But you could make this with the proper pinouts. You'd have to find the Newton spec. But look, if you want to be somebody who uses a Newton, these are skills you need, that's true.

0:42:13 - Mikah Sargent
You can't just blithely say, oh yes, I use a newton pretend you are in an apocalypse and you got to keep this thing running. You know what I mean. You got to have these skills. This is an amazing device.

0:42:24 - Leo Laporte
Frankly, I think sharp made these for apple, right?

0:42:30 - Mikah Sargent
I think that's who made them um I feel like it could be you be used as a personal defense device?

0:42:37 - Leo Laporte
Well, you have the big one. Yeah, but this is apparently somebody was. This has Velcro on the back, so this was mounted at some point somewhere, and this one is really much more. This is the MessagePad 2000 that came later because it has a screen cover and all that. Would you like this? Can I send it to you? I would love it.

0:42:56 - Caller
Actually I would love that.

0:42:57 - Leo Laporte
Okay, I'll get a hand stack on one of those Hang on the line, and I will. I mean, there's no reason to be sitting in my cupboard because I have enough of them. To demonstrate. Let me send you the 2000. And you can see, this might be more fun to work with. It's got two card slots and yeah, you said I have. What is this? This is the fax modem card. So this does the same thing yours does. Which is it? Oops, where is it? There it is. It pops out the 144. Yeah, 144. X jack, that was made by megahertz, remember them.

0:43:40 - Caller
And then what is? There's another card in here. This is probably the same card.

0:43:42 - Leo Laporte
You have the megabyte memory card. Oh, I have stat I have static and flash dude. That's, that's actually. That's an upgrade, actually flash, two megabyte flash dude, two megabyte flash. Okay, the only thing I'm going to ask you is, if you find any private data on there, you erase it, because I have no idea what's on here.

0:43:55 - Mikah Sargent
Probably probably some of my uh, my old beats this is it's wild to see this is one year younger than I am oh, my god, oh wow.

0:44:09 - Leo Laporte
This could have been your first computer. Now this one has a different serial port on this, which is, I think, really non-standard. Or is that hdmi or something?

0:44:19 - Mikah Sargent
I know it looks like hdmi, doesn't it?

0:44:21 - Leo Laporte
sort of weird, weird port on there. Um, and this, this one had the battery on. This is a little different too see, and it has four double a's in there. I guess I these are recent, so I must have fired this up, let's see. I wonder if the battery's still.

0:44:39 - Mikah Sargent
I tried turning it on. Did you try? Yeah, all right, I need new batteries, but maybe I don't know how to turn it on.

0:44:43 - Leo Laporte
Well, there's nothing to it. What a fun thing. Let's hang on the line, james, I'll get your address.

0:44:50 - Mikah Sargent
Actually, heck, actually yeah, if we can do it in the zoom chat, john, do you know how to do that? If not, actually you know, email me email.

0:44:57 - Leo Laporte
You can email me directly, Leo, at Leofm. And, uh, I will look for it. Use the secret, I don't know how we're gonna know. Send me a picture with your newton in your hand and I'll know. It's there we go, and, uh, and just send me your address and I'll be glad to ship that off to you. Thank you so much. Going, going to a good home. I'm happy. Are you kidding? I really appreciate it. Good, my pleasure. And then go to Newton research on a get hub because apparently they're doing some they're still doing some Newton stuff, or they were. Uh, you see a whole 17 followers, 17 people who have Newton's and 16 others, or I guess you'll make the 18th.

0:45:36 - Mikah Sargent
I love it, I love it. Thank you, james, thank you so much thank you, thank you oh, my pleasure.

0:45:43 - Leo Laporte
Yes, we have a winner of the newton 2000.

0:45:47 - Mikah Sargent
This thing, it's considerably bigger yeah, it's, it's much heftier yeah I don't know what apple.

0:45:53 - Leo Laporte
This was not under steve, this was under John Sculley, but I think it's cool. Brilliant engineering went into this and, of course, a lot of those people went on to Sidekick. I mean, this was a big part of Apple's story. Wow, came out after the Mac, right before steve came back as a ute.

0:46:18 - Mikah Sargent
I would have loved to have had one of those there's oh yeah it's so cool so somebody sent this to me.

0:46:23 - Leo Laporte
Obviously zz did. Oh zz top. No, I don't know this. It looks like this was used in some sort of industrial uh setting.

0:46:30 - Mikah Sargent
Oh good, right, because of the velcro oh, I thought you may have done that just to like no, no, no, no, I didn't do that I didn't do that, but I'm not gonna take it off.

0:46:39 - Leo Laporte
I'll let james take it off, because I'm afraid if I do it'll fall something will happen.

0:46:42 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, it's necessary to the structure it might actually be holding it's a support beam together.

0:46:48 - Leo Laporte
Oh, here is from every mac. Thank you to the fabulous scooter x here. Here are the specs. Now that mini Atari probably does not have a 6502 Atari chip in it. It probably has, you know, an Arduino or Raspberry Pi, some sort of more modern thing. But here we go. This is the good old days. Came out in 97. So you were a couple of years old when this came out. It is a strong arm. 110. Apple invested, in fact apple founded arm to make with some other companies to make these newtons. They needed a arm chip. So this is the earliest days of arm. Four megabytes or eight megabytes of rom, that's the operating system on there. It comes with one to five megabytes of ram. That's a lot for 1997.

That's incredible this is amazing two pcm cia slots those are those two little slots there um, and it's 480 by 320. This is actually pretty impressive, originally almost a thousand bucks, but you know that was in 1997 dollars. Yeah.

0:47:57 - Mikah Sargent
As you don't have to go back to the inflation. I'm going to look it up for myself because I'm curious and for people like me and James who are using Google podcasts, export them.

0:48:07 - Leo Laporte
Google has instructions on how you can export your subscriptions in a format that's a standard Rss format called opml. Once you've exported it to opml, any podcast player or rss reader can import that, so it's easy to move. Uh, oh, you think that's for a dock? Burke's saying the, the, the din is for a dock. Oh, interesting, okay, oh, that funny one. Oh, that's that's for a newton dock. Yeah, they probably had plans. They had plans.

Apple did, believe it or not, this has gone the way of the apple car, apple music. We've had trouble for people moving over to apple music. I mean youtube music with their um, youtube music with from their google podcasts. I've had seen at least one person who said I'm not, it's not working. So I I think I would try download before you, uh, before it goes out of, completely out of service in july, download your opml file and, you know, save it. That's all your subscriptions. You could put that somewhere else. That's just, oh, google. Oh, my god, you know the velcro is to hold it to a nice leather case. I don't think so. I do you. You think that's what it was.

Oh, and boy, scooter x, you're really uh he's a kitten on the keys this, uh, this weekend. Here is oh, I'm not going to that page I got that too.

0:49:37 - Mikah Sargent
I'm like never mind, uh, I'll probably just when I get when I get that.

0:49:41 - Leo Laporte
I just say let's go. You say it's fine, let's go. That page is down, so I don't know if it worked for you. Scooter x are you?

0:49:50 - Mikah Sargent
trying to scooter. Scooter, what shouldoter?

0:49:52 - Leo Laporte
Scooter, Scooter. What should we do now?

0:49:54 - Mikah Sargent
There's a question I would like to take. Yes, sir, because it's a question you wouldn't want to answer. Is it a printer question? It is, and I can speak specifically to it because I understand.

0:50:08 - Leo Laporte
You do the printer question and I'm going to play with my Atari.

0:50:11 - Mikah Sargent
So this comes in from David, who's in our discord, and David writes greetings Leo and Mikah, longtime listener of Leo's since ZDTV days, hoping you can offer a solution to my problem. I have an HP smart print printer. I had been paying every month for HP instant ink as there seemed to be no other option to choose. My big issue is, since I had purchased the printer, I've never received any cartridges from HP, despite being charged $6 per month. To be honest, I rarely print unless it is for postage, so I don't ever make the quota of 50 pages per month.

The last month they tried to charge me, I had my card account locked to avoid any charges I didn't authorize, so the payment did not go through for HP Instant Ink. They sent me an email that they were disabling Instant Ink on my account, but what they've done is disable my printer. Oh, by the way, that's what they mean. Yes, I no longer have access to print to it. Is this even legal? Is there a solution to my problem other than paying again for Instant Ink? That program claimed to send ink cartridges when they sensed your ink was running low. But, as I stated, I just want to say screw you HP?

0:51:17 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, they they're. This is, by the way. There are different divisions of HP. They split off. This is the printer group. Their CEO, enrique Lores, said in January he wants to make printing a subscription. I mean, yeah, people who buy printers are investments that don't pay off if they go third party and that's why they have a subscription.

0:51:41 - Mikah Sargent
Yes. So I want to explain something, david, because you have the benefit of someone who reads the fine print Ha ha print. I didn't mean the pun, but here's how this. Here's how this works. When you get an HP printer that offers HP Instant Ink, you have two options. When you first get the printer, you can either opt to use it without using HP Instant Ink, in which case you buy new cartridges whenever you want to buy new cartridges, and you install them and they work.

0:52:10 - Leo Laporte
You buy them from HP.

0:52:11 - Mikah Sargent
Yes, yes, you buy them from HP, very important. Yes, no matter what you're buying them from.

HP, you can't use anybody else's no but this that you can do it without using HP instant ink. You buy the new HP ink cartridges, you install them. However, if you opt into HP instant ink, then you have to do the do it the way that they have it set up. So when you opted into using HP instant ink, you gave them permission to deactivate your printer if you stopped paying for HP Instant Ink. And in fact, what they do and it's really annoying is that HP Instant Ink cartridges are actually higher yield cartridges than the non-HP Instant Ink cartridges. So they send you an HP Instant Ink cartridge and the moment you install it into the printer, it is activated as part of your subscription. The second you stop paying, that HP instant ink cartridge will no longer print. Your printer will no longer print. The only way to get out of it is by buying HP ink cartridges that are not part of the HP instant ink cartridge subscription anymore.

0:53:13 - Leo Laporte
In other other words, pay your subscription because the reason it hasn't sent you more is because you're not using yes it.

0:53:19 - Mikah Sargent
It doesn't just send them willy-nilly, it only sends them when you've run out of ink. And what?

0:53:23 - Leo Laporte
well, when you go low, when you go low, the idea being well, we're going to get that to you before you'll need it and and this is the other thing too is that, yes, unfortunately, you have to keep paying.

0:53:31 - Mikah Sargent
But what? But if you had run up to that 50 pages, then that's where they would start charging you more. I think you're in the lowest tier subscription, and so you haven't run up against the 50.

0:53:46 - Leo Laporte
So that's the agreement Because the printer's like 100 bucks Print is cheap Because they know that you're going to get six bucks a month from you for the rest of your life. That's still only 72 a year. It's not. If I mean, in the old days, printers would cost hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. If you like the printer. I think it's not unreasonable now.

Loris even said, when asked this was in a cnbc interview at davos when asked, well, what you're going to? You're going to break the printer if they don't use your ink? He says yes, because there's a lot of IP intellectual property built into the inks of the printheads, in the printheads itself in the printers. What we're doing when identify cartridges that are violating our intellectual property? We stop the printer from working. He says it can create all kinds of issues from the printer not working because the inks haven't been designed to work in our printers, to even security issues. We have seen that you can embed the ink viruses in the cartridges, through the cartridges to the printer, from the printer to the network, so it can create many more problems. This is not true. I was going to say just In 2022, they had a bug bounty.

They actually paid hackers to write a program to put malware on a print cartridge. Nobody's tried it before, just to try to prove it. And all it was able to do was to buffer, overflow the printer. There's no evidence it was coming out of the printer. Nobody's ever done that. Nobody coming out of the printer. Nobody's ever done that, nobody. There are printer hacks in the world, mostly their network hacks, yeah, even then it's on like microsoft side yeah, it's not.

0:55:20 - Mikah Sargent
It's so this is just be honest, that's all like. Like we all know that you are subsidizing, yeah, and so just say that because you don't need to lie about all this other nonsense? What? Here's my last thing, though if you don't need color for your printing, just get that brother printer that everybody else has. There's that one brother printer that every person has, and the the toner that comes with it. Even though it's a sample cartridge or a sample, what do they call them? Are they still called cartridges when they're? Yeah? It's a yeah, their cartridge lasts for ages.

0:55:57 - Leo Laporte
And then when you buy the next one, which I'm now on my second one oh, you have actually gotten one. Yeah, that one's going to last forever and it's like 5,000 pages.

0:56:03 - Mikah Sargent
There. It is the best exactly, so we've included a link to it. This Brother printer is incredible.

0:56:09 - Leo Laporte
It's a laser printer. That's the difference. It's not color.

0:56:11 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, so if you need, color, I mean look, If you need color. I have an HP printer and that Brother printer actually, and I use the InstaInk subscription and I understand that that's how it works. But, honestly, for me it's less expensive than every couple of years buying a new HP printer when I need it because the printh print heads are no longer working or whatever.

0:56:35 - Leo Laporte
The Brother HL-L2350. I have it at home. You have it at home Because it just goes forever. The heads don't get clogged, it's black and white. I mean, who prints that much anymore? I print maybe boarding passes for an air flight. I print more often because what do you print, burke? He prints stuff. That's what he prints. Stuff most is mostly for us. It's mostly like he hangs, like he put things on my door, he puts little signs on my door, stuff like that, that's all it says burke wasZ yeah.

I poop on racists Whatever. He prints little signs for me and puts them on my door. But honestly, all the rhetoric aside, I don't think it's unreal.

0:57:28 - Mikah Sargent
As long as HP should just be up front, just be up front.

0:57:30 - Leo Laporte
We're basically giving you the printer. The money we make comes from you buying the cartridges. You know that's the deal. You buy an hp printer, you're going to subscribe to the cartridges. That's the deal. There's a certain amount of uh confidence that comes with the fact that you're using legit cartridges. They replace the printhead with each cartridge, so he's saying, in effect, that is the printer. What you're buying is a thing to hold the printer and you're buying new printers every month, a new print head and new ink and all that. And it's not. It's not more expensive than it would be to buy a printer, although that brother's like $120, it's not hugely expensive. So, uh, and then you know other companies are doing tank printers. Now Epson pioneered that because they're recognizing that people don't want this cartridge. Yeah, but if you'd want good color printing and you and you want photo printing and that kind of stuff, it's not unreasonable to get.

0:58:25 - Mikah Sargent
No, and the instant ink program includes a little package so they can recycle the cartridges which I think is good, which is really nice.

0:58:31 - Leo Laporte
Otherwise they go in the landfill. So you know, know, it's just.

0:58:36 - Mikah Sargent
They just be upfront about it but yeah, if you're trying to, if you want to get out of the instant ink thing and just buy them from now on, um, that is something again that you can do. I what? I'm what's not clear. You may have to pay one more time to reactivate the subscription, to reactivate the printer, but then at that point you can say I want to cancel my HP Instinct subscription. You may even be able to do it without I'm not sure about that and then from that point on, you just have to buy cartridges that are not part of the Instinct, but that's a pain.

0:59:02 - Leo Laporte
Nobody wants to go to Office Depot and buy cartridges.

0:59:05 - Mikah Sargent
Exactly, or even order them online and wait for them and not know if they're.

0:59:10 - Leo Laporte
This is an article from a year ago on the Verge. Nilay Patel says the brother, whatever printer, it's a printer that just prints and everybody you know already has one and it's true, you have one, I have one. Because eventually you kind of come to the conclusion that you just don't want to deal with all this cartridge stuff anyway one way or the other. And I'm just going to get a laser 120 bucks. The biggest expense is paper.

0:59:36 - Mikah Sargent
Right, that's a good question, great question and it was a printer, but it was still good yeah, no, it's a, but that's a printer question I can get into.

0:59:44 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, not, why is?

0:59:45 - Mikah Sargent
it not connecting it, don't worry, I made sure not to.

0:59:48 - Leo Laporte
I filtered out those types of printer questions just for you, Leo epson used to sponsor the radio show you may remember, for a long time, and I I thought I had a great relationship. Then one day they said well, we, we don't want to sponsor you, you're too political, because he was talking about printers too much I, I don't.

I couldn't understand it. It was like what do you mean me? I'm not political at all. But they said no, they can't. I think it was because I was on the same network as rush limbaugh at the time and I think that they probably just decided they didn't want to be on iHeart or something I don't know Political, no, it's just a computer talk show.

1:00:22 - Mikah Sargent
So, Leo, before you answer the email, I actually have a phone caller who's been waiting a little bit.

1:00:26 - Leo Laporte
Oh, well, put him on, put him on, yeah, yeah.

1:00:28 - Mikah Sargent
You need a star six, if you please.

1:00:37 - Leo Laporte
I bet you most of the inkjet printer companies become subscription inkjet printer companies.

1:00:42 - Mikah Sargent
It makes sense. Hey, what's your?

1:00:44 - Leo Laporte
first name and what's your city?

1:00:48 - Caller
This is Neil in Chandler, Arizona. How are you Nice to talk to you guys. Are you calling?

1:00:54 - Mikah Sargent
from a church choir room.

1:00:56 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, it's a little echoey. Get up a little closer to the microphone. What's your name?

1:01:01 - Caller
Oh, actually I'm using Neil. Hi Neil, let me switch over. I was using my hearing aids.

1:01:06 - Leo Laporte
Oh no, what? No, the hearing aids don't have microphones. Just talk closer to the phone. Your hearing aids are fine, just talking to the phone. Oh okay, is that better? Yeah, is that a little better? Yeah, hi, neil, it's good to talk to you again. What's up?

1:01:20 - Caller
Okay, a couple of simple questions, I think, first of all, I'm watching the show. I'm watching it with YouTube, but I like to watch it on the big TV. I was going to try and use it from the Discord and AirPlay it out to the television instead, because I have an Apple TV, but it doesn't seem to offer that functionality. It does not.

1:01:44 - Mikah Sargent
It does not. Your computer could do it Well. No, you should be able to full screen it.

You're probably used to the normal way of AirPlaying, right the way where you uh see the little airplay icon and you can play something from that. But, um, let's, actually, can we switch to airplay one here in a moment? Uh, john, um, so I'm thinking that what you can probably do is, instead of doing uh, just a straight up air, you use the screen mirroring functionality. So I have turned on screen mirroring on my iPhone and we'll show that on AirPlay 1 in just a moment, and I am in the Discord while I am screen mirroring, and then what I'm going to do here, as soon as we can show it on screen, is I'm going to join the stage, and so it's unlike a typical AirPlay session where you are actually taking something from your phone and shifting it to the screen. You're just mirroring from one device to the other.

So I can or your Mac, you can you can do this from your Mac as well. Is it still not popping up, john? Okay, let me switch away really quick to AirPlay 2 and we'll switch back, and so with this, you should be able to then screen mirror the content. So I have joined the stage and I am able to watch this on my screen, and I can, of course, there we go, so you can see up in the top and this, of course is so now this is your iPhone screen, yes, and I should be able to take this video here and make it full.

Let me see how to do that.

1:03:26 - Leo Laporte
So basically, you're in Discord on your iPhone. This would work on a Mac as well. Yes, it would. And you AirPlay to your Apple TV as well? Yes, it would. And you air play to your apple tv yeah, I'm not sure how to make it go full screen here, but oh, maybe it doesn't though, see, that's I had. I was under the impression that they don't do that. There we go. Oh look, he's doing it.

1:03:42 - Mikah Sargent
So obviously it's really a great way to watch there.

1:03:47 - Leo Laporte
It's because it yeah. You have to wait now because it was playing itself.

1:03:52 - Mikah Sargent
yeah, so now you can see that it's actually playing the screen. So, yes, and the way that you get to do that at home.

1:03:59 - Leo Laporte
No, no, no, no.

1:03:59 - Mikah Sargent
So the way that you get to screen mirroring is you will go into your control center on your phone and in control center you've got a screen mirroring option, and then you would choose your Apple TV from here.

1:04:16 - Leo Laporte
So it's not using the facilities of Discord to do it. You're just watching the video on your device and then using the device to airplay Exactly.

1:04:19 - Caller
Does that make sense? Well, thank you. Well, my main question thank you for that. Sure, Neil, I don't mind using YouTube. It's just that sometimes it's hard to find the live feed for the show.

1:04:29 - Leo Laporte
By the way, Neil, some of the people in the Discord are saying that some hearing aids do allow you to use them as Bluetooth headsets Mine. I use the microphone on the phone and I have the hearing aids make the sound. Would you do just to see it? What kind of hearing aids do you have?

1:04:46 - Caller
A Phonak.

1:04:47 - Leo Laporte
Phonak. Maybe the Phonaks do that. Tap your hearing aids. Let me see. Yeah, these are like they're expensive. They're about $3,000.

1:04:52 - Caller
Yeah, I your hearing aids, let me see. Yeah, these are like you know, these are like they're expensive. They're about three thousand dollars. Yeah, I know hearing aids are outrageous.

1:04:58 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, uh, I'm going to a new audiologist in a month. You know why? Yeah, because I have tinnitus, the ringing in the ears, you know. And uh, it's gotten worse and worse. Basically, it sounds right now it sounds like there's a tea kettle in the room and it's always blowing and I can't take it off the stove. I think I would be- it drives you nuts.

So there is a treatment that came out of Germany that the FDA has approved now, called Lenire L-E-N-I-R-E, and I found an audiologist down the road, a piece in Marin County, that does the Lenire treatment. So May 2nd I'm going in for my consultation. I will let you all know, because I know that about 5% to 10% of you also have a ringing in your ears. If this treatment works, you're going to see a new man. I'll be tap dancing before you know it. So anyway, that's a little side note, and I might at the time get new hearing aids. You like the Phonax?

1:06:00 - Caller
I'm using the resounds right well, they work very well. They actually work very well. It was funny I was going to um buy, um, you know the over, not over the counter hearing aids, but they had them on cheap. They were advertising. Yeah nowadays, yeah, yeah jabras are everybody's recommending.

Yeah yeah, but that's what I was looking at the jabra, and I was thinking about getting the Jabra and then I contacted my insurance. They'd cover them and they said, well, you need to get an audio exam. I said, okay, that's reasonable enough. I went and got the, went to the audiologist and then she got me to take, you know, she wanted me to get real hearing, if not those Jabras, and the insurance paid almost like 500 bucks. Okay, well, that's good, I have good insurance, you have good insurance. It's only costing like $500.

1:06:37 - Leo Laporte
You have better insurance than I do. Go ahead. What can we do for you?

1:06:44 - Caller
Well. I did have.

Okay. So here's my question. I have an iPad 2018, ipad Pro 11-inch. I've had it for several years. It seems fine, except the cat decided that he wanted to knock it out of my hand one day and it kind of chipped the corner of the screen. It still works otherwise. You have a glass kind of split. But the question I guess comes down to and this is maybe a Mikah question or both of you whether it's worth repairing. And I know that Apple charges $500 for that screen repair. But I can buy a new iPad, you know, for only a couple hundred more. So I guess that's my point is what the best course for the otherwise functional iPad, whether I should replace it or just get $500 to get the screen repaired.

1:07:34 - Mikah Sargent
Oh, ok, this is a tough one, we should mention the new iPads are coming out.

1:07:39 - Leo Laporte
we think that is true. We may see some new iPads soon. In a few weeks, in early May. May 6th is the current rumor.

1:07:46 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, so that's something to keep in mind if you decide to go the route of replacing 2018's. Not that long ago, so it's still a pretty powerful laptop I mean basically iPad. It's mostly about that. It bothers you, right? It is not messing with the functioning of the display.

1:08:05 - Leo Laporte
I have to say, though be careful, because it can cut you. Yes, that is yes, Since you're touching the display and rubbing your finger.

1:08:14 - Mikah Sargent
Say that again.

1:08:15 - Caller
Yeah, it's just in the corner, yeah but if you rub, your finger Say that again.

1:08:17 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, it's just in the corner?

1:08:18 - Caller
Yeah, but if you move your finger?

1:08:19 - Leo Laporte
there. It's otherwise functional. Yeah, you know, it's up to you, just as you say does it bother you? Yeah, yeah.

1:08:29 - Mikah Sargent
Because you could always put a case on it that covers the corner, in which case that you don't even have to worry about it. Yeah, this is really I don't either is a good option. It boils down to what you want. If you want the newest, latest, greatest, wait until May-ish and get the newest, latest, greatest for a couple hundred dollars more. If you don't feel like you need the new, then and you have to replace or repair it, then yeah, five hundred dollars or whatever it will be for you is is worth it. Eventually, that price will go down and the crack will expand.

1:09:01 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, that's true too. Uh, that's been my experience. Um, I don't I have. It's been a while since I broke a screen.

1:09:08 - Mikah Sargent
My daughter breaks them pretty regularly and it's usually a little crack starts out, just it gets bigger and bigger yeah any stresses put on it are going to start to grow that so I would. I would not be in a hurry if you can live with it, and I would wait until wait at least until may, because if you wanted to, you then could buy a newer, but not the latest ipad to replace it and you maybe even come out breaking close to even uh on on getting a repair.

1:09:35 - Leo Laporte
Now here's what again. We don't know exactly, but the rumor is Apple has new iPads Pro with OLED screens, which will be gorgeous, and those. The latest thing I saw is that the 11-inch they're having a little trouble with. They had some trouble with the software, they had some trouble with the software, there's some trouble with the screens, but they I think the pros are for sure coming out in may, but the 11th might be hard to get. But the real question is are they going to do an iPad air? Are they going to do an iPad mini? We love the mini. It's way overdue for update. They won't be OLED, but are they going to update those? So I suspect it's at least worth waiting a few weeks and then I would. I would start thinking about getting a new one. That crack is not going to yeah, it's not going to keep small forever. And 500 bucks forget it now. You could go to I fix it, do it yourself. I don't recommend. It's very hard to do so 500 bucks, I read the directions.

1:10:35 - Caller
It looks fairly complicated.

1:10:36 - Mikah Sargent
Oh yeah, you don't want to do it. I enjoy it, but it's not for everyone. Yeah.

1:10:41 - Leo Laporte
I think we're going to see new iPads and I think this is just a perfect time to do it and then keep the cat away from the iPad from now on.

1:10:51 - Caller
I've been really lucky so far that he had his own ideas of the time. You know how cats are, that's all cats have.

1:10:58 - Leo Laporte
They don't have anything but their own ideas, non-stop great to talk to you.

1:11:08 - Caller
I'm a club member now since the beginning and we've talked several times over the years and I've bought many products from the radio show. I still make audible subscriptions from the radio show all the way from. I still make audible subscription from 2011. Nice, plus a few other, a lot of other products that you recommended. They're all very good by the way, over the years.

1:11:23 - Leo Laporte
I think we've done pretty well with our sponsors. There's been a few duds Can't help it. Sometimes that happens. They're good when we start, but I'm glad you're happy and I love having you in the club. Thank you, neil, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Leo. Thank you All right, coming up in about half an hour, johnny Jett, but before we go on with your calls, you're watching Ask the Tech Guys with Mikah Sargent and Leo Laporte.

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1:14:24 - John Ashley
that's a good email to answer.

1:14:26 - Leo Laporte
This is a good one. Okay, I'm nervous now. Yeah, when john?

1:14:31 - Mikah Sargent
ashley says good, so that's a good one to answer john of gray ghost productions.

1:14:38 - Leo Laporte
Oh thanks, john. Uh, john, from burlington, ontario, I am in the line of totality for the eclipse tomorrow, nice tomorrow. I am wondering if there's anything special I need to protect my pixel 6a and my Rebel T5 taking pictures of the eclipse. Yeah, because normally you don't shoot into the sun, do you? I just saw a great article on shooting the eclipse with an Android device, I think with a Pixel, in fact. So let me pull that up. You know, when you're in totality, you don't have to worry, right, because it's dark enough, you're going to get the corona.

This is from Google Six tips to capture the solar eclipse with your pixel. A pixel camera expert shares which features. So I would read this for sure. This is on the Google keyword blog Cool, if you're in the area, area of totality. Now, look, they've got a whole bunch of stuff. They say well, you should definitely bring your camera. Your don't, by the way, don't cheap out on those goggles, baby, get them from the planetary society because, uh, you don't want to. There are a lot of people at least it happened last, last time selling what they claim are Eclipse viewing goggles. That were not, and you're going to burn your retina. You're going to have permanent damage.

1:16:01 - Mikah Sargent
Look at this time. It's kind of hard to get them ordered If you are in the area where there's a Warby Parker. Warby Parker is making many available, in some cases for free, is what I've heard and they are sourced properly from warby parker.

1:16:18 - Leo Laporte
they are genuine eclipse glasses uh, they say, use a tripod. I don't think you necessarily need to use a tripod. That's one thing pixels do very well. They say you can trust the camera to do the work. During the eclipse, the sky will gradually get darker, oh, really oh, as the moon slowly passes between us and the sun. The pixel phone has automatic settings that can handle this. The screen auto adjusts. Night sight will kick in when the light gets low enough. Right, they do say and this is true of all photography practice, practice, practice, prepare as best you can create a fake eclipse in your home to practice.

Yeah, do not, though and this is a surprise to me use the astrophotography settings, because that is a four-minute exposure and the totality is only around four minutes, so you're not going to get what you think. You don't want to spend that all in one photo. They say Experiment with different compositions, move the sun around, take any photos.

This is always the advice with digital Just keep shooting right, you're going to focus on infinity, but the phone will do that automatically, but your Canon will not. So make sure your Canon is set to focus to infinity your sensor from the bright light of the sun. Uh, you, I think you're. You're probably all right, don't.

1:17:45 - Mikah Sargent
Don't point your camera at the sun until it starts to get right. Don't keep it there maybe the whole time, but once and yes, poco in the chat. Uh, this was also something that uh rod pile spaceman suggested is uh, to test your glasses, put them on and look at a light.

1:18:01 - Leo Laporte
You should see nothing.

1:18:02 - Mikah Sargent
And if you see the light, then they're not good enough.

1:18:06 - Leo Laporte
I hesitate to say those kinds of things Just in case it's, that's not really.

1:18:09 - Mikah Sargent
It's not the whole kit, and caboodle.

1:18:11 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, go to eclipseglassescom and at least read about. Let me pull this up Eclipseglassescom is the Planetary Society and Bill Nye, the science guy's site for this. They are selling them, but obviously it's a little too late for that, since Eclipse as we speak today is tomorrow. But they do talk a little bit about what makes safe glasses and you really have to pay attention.

1:18:39 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, it's more thorough than just looking at the light.

1:18:41 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, just looking at the light, I guess, is better than nothing.

1:18:45 - Mikah Sargent
Than nothing, but don't take that as its own.

1:18:47 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, I don't want you to damage your eyes, so learn what you can about what Eclipse Safety. They have a whole page on Eclipse Safety.

1:18:57 - Mikah Sargent
And NASA is not in the business of approving or disproving any glasses. So if you see nasa approved, that's a lie yeah, there you go.

1:19:06 - Leo Laporte
There is a standard, though. There's an nsf standard, national safety, fun guys, I don't know. Probably foundation, foundation, you think I don't know. Um core four method to see if your glasses are faith safe the core four.

That sounds cool this is mostly who you get it from. Um, yeah, this is not uh, but you want the iso certification. That's it, iso, and the iso certification is one, two, three. I can't read it. My eyes are damaged. He's got his eclipse glasses. One, two, three, one, two, dash two. One, two, three, one, two, dash two. Unfortunately, there's nothing to stop uh, an evil manufacturer, from putting that on their glasses.

That's why you just know, oh so, um, yeah, I mean geez louise. So, uh, and I guess at this point you're gonna be making your own, and I've heard all sorts of horror recipes, but I've also heard plenty of horror stories.

1:20:12 - Mikah Sargent
Rod talked about uh having to get cataract surgery at 40. Because what horror story. Yeah so rod looked at the sun rod was using a telescope with a uh, with a lens that was supposed to be focuses it right. Yeah, and come to be 40 years old.

1:20:30 - Leo Laporte
Both of his lenses were just wrecked you know what the fun thing to do is during an eclipse is not look at the eclipse, but look. I'll never forget this. We were walking down the street during the eclipse and the trees, the sunlight through the trees. And then you look during the eclipse and the trees, the sunlight through the trees, and then you look at the sunlight and you can see the eclipse. Yeah, you can actually see, because the tree leaves are acting like a little pinhole camera.

And of course, that's what they always tell you to do, and this never was satisfying, as we did in school. You make a shoebox with a hole in it, and then you look at the shoebox instead of the sun. Box with a hole in it, and then you look at the shoe box instead of the sun. That's no fun. It's really hard, though, because it feels like it's safe, because it feels like it's dark. Yep, don't, don't do it. Don't look at the tree shadows instead. Uh, evanescence photos. Asking was there a spec for welding glasses? Yeah, we talked about it, but I don't remember what it is. Was it number 14?

1:21:18 - Mikah Sargent
do some research. I can just look at all of the many, many, many photos that are going to be posted everywhere of the eclipse.

1:21:24 - Leo Laporte
I would suggest, though, if you even don't have, look. First of all, people are saying well, I'm not in a totality, so forget it. No, it will still, be even here.

It'll be eerie because it will get dark. Yeah, it won't be total. You won. I think it's 30-some percent. Yeah, even that, you'll notice it. So I'm getting my car washed tomorrow, so that should be a good time to have a little fun with the eclipse. Anyway, be outside, listen for the animals, listen for the birds. They'll get quiet. They think this is strange. Some of them will start to begin their sleep pattern. Yeah, what time is it tomorrow here? I don't know, I can't remember. There's some great websites for it. This is where the web really is, your friend.

The web is your friend here at NASA's site has a good Sciencenasagov slash eclipses Explicit score. Explicit score, so it'll be 11.07 Pacific time. See, all you have to do is put in your zip code right here. It knows where I am, so it tells me, and we're going to get 32% and the time to the eclipse 22 hours from now It'll be 59 degrees and should be clear. So it'll be fun Meteorologist. Yeah, there you go. I excited, are you excited?

yes I've last big eclipse, uh. We went down to australia to see it and on a cruise it was a geek cruise, uh, and it was cloudy, so don't be sad if it's cloudy. Who is it we talked to? That was going to, uh, to that would be scott wilkinson was it scott.

1:23:05 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, scott's going down there. I know jesus now is going down snell's also going down.

1:23:09 - Leo Laporte
He's flying down. It's a big deal. Be a lot of fun, uh, and take lots of pictures, I guess, but don't look directly at the sun. Actually, that's why a phone is a great way to do it, because you're looking at a screen. The problem with the dslr is you're looking through the lens at the sun, exactly. That's a little riskier. Stick with the phone. What would you like to do next? John ashley, coming up in about 20 minutes.

1:23:34 - Caller
Johnny jet, our travel guy I'm gonna pick up on a caller who has their hand raised in Zoom.

1:23:44 - Leo Laporte
Rich, come on down. I thought was this a guy earlier? I thought Rich might have passed on. He had fallen asleep and I thought maybe he was a goner. But no, he's still here. He woke up. Rich, does he have to do anything?

1:24:09 - Mikah Sargent
not if, yeah, not if you're a call or if you're a video person video, god. I see they're loaded in, so we just you know have to unsilence yourself.

1:24:20 - Leo Laporte
Did you see that twitter is giving? Gave me back my blue check.

1:24:23 - Mikah Sargent
Were you the one that got one.

1:24:24 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, that's what you know. I did not pay Elon anything for that and I don't want it, but I got it. It's because I have half a million followers on. Twitter Elon's trying to encourage me to participate. Ooh, he's emerging from the Stargate, hello, hey what's your? Name. Hello. Rich from Rochester, New York. Beautiful Rochester, New York, home of Kodak.

1:24:48 - Caller
Yes, and I'm going to be close to totality, but almost.

1:24:53 - Leo Laporte
Almost is really still very fun. Yeah, Very cool. What can we do for you?

1:24:57 - Caller
Rich Crazy Mike. I think this is a question for you. What can we do for you? Rich Crazy Mikah, I think this is a question for you. I'm not a real Apple guy myself, but my wife has an iPad and the iPad won't connect to Bitwarden using the Chrome browser on her iPad. It just kind of sits there and spins.

1:25:24 - Mikah Sargent
Okay, so to clarify, you are wanting to use the within the Chrome browser. You want to use the plug in to connect to Bitwarden, not going to the website.

1:25:38 - Caller
No, this is going to the website. It's not using an extension or anything like that. Put in the Bitwarden website login, whatever you want to call it, and it would just spin and not connect so that she can sign in either.

1:25:56 - Mikah Sargent
Right, okay, this is interesting because, technically, as it stands right now, every single browser that's on an iPad, on an iPhone, on any of Apple's devices, is using the Safari engine in the background. So Chrome is, it's basically a it's like a Safari wearing a Google costume, and so the fact that it's not loading through Google Chrome. I'm trying to think of what could be happening here. There could be some settings maybe. Maybe some JavaScript is turned off or something. I don't know. Go ahead, go ahead.

1:26:47 - Leo Laporte
Look into all the settings on the Chrome thing to see if it, you know, would let you know something with passwords or whatever. Here's what I would do to start, and this is always a solution on Chrome, you can show my. Can you see my screen here? All right, so I'm in Chrome on the iPhone, but it's going to be the same on iPad and if you go into settings, you'll see clear browsing data. Little trash can next to it. Absolutely do that and, and you don't have to be notice, it starts with everything checked. You could uncheck, uh, a few of them, but honestly, I would clear it all and uh, and, knowing that you're in it, it's the cache.

1:27:21 - Caller
Sorry, we've tried that with just deleting the cache and stuff like that, I would delete the cookies.

1:27:30 - Leo Laporte
I mean you slowly add more and more things because something in there is almost certainly what's going on. This is, yes, it's Safari, but Chrome has its own storage, so I would suggest absolutely clearing that.

1:27:43 - Mikah Sargent
Just out of curiosity for troubleshooting, did your wife try doing it in Safari? Does the Bitwarden website work there?

1:27:52 - Caller
No, we didn't try anything by looking at Safari, and I don't even know if that's on her iPad or not.

1:28:00 - Leo Laporte
It would almost certainly be I don't think you can get rid of it.

1:28:03 - Mikah Sargent
That's one of the things they're fighting with the EU about the reason to try that is just to see if, because if it also is doing this in Safari, then that means we know it's a system level setting that needs to be changed. There's something going on at the system level. If it does work in Safari, that definitely narrows it down to something going wrong with the system level. If it does work in Safari, that definitely narrows it down to something going wrong with the Chrome browser, and so what we'd be able to do is kind of go from there. So I definitely, at some point I would give that a try. Another suggestion that I would have is, if all else fails, if you try what Leo suggested, with a complete kind of removal of everything, deleting and reinstalling the Chrome app on the phone could sometimes kick through, whatever is causing the issue.

But yeah, I would start with going into Safari. If it doesn't work there, then you could either email us, give us a call back, because there's something else going on that is more at the system level, because there are some things that, again at the system level, safari's engine could be doing, where it's just having trouble syncing up with the Bitwarden website. I know that Bitwarden now works with Passkeys, for example, and it could be trying to autofill. When I went to the Bitwarden website, one of the first things it did was say it kind of tried to sync with Bitwarden in the moment and then it let me through. Maybe there's something going on where yours is not clicking through. So those are some options there that might be at issue.

1:29:35 - Leo Laporte
I would also suggest two things. One is turn the phone off and on Yep. Honestly, I don't know why, but I don't do it very often. My wife needs to reboot her iPhone almost every day. It just gets weird and wonky. So you know, you press and hold the volume up and on off screen on off and button and then slide to turn it off. You don't have to do a hard reboot, Just slide to turn it off and then turn it on again. And then, finally, the best way to use Bitwarden on the iPhone or the iPad is with the app. There's a Bitwarden app and that's easier, frankly, in my opinion, than going to the browser to get your passwords.

That's the way she was using it. So I guess I had to go with that. Yeah, well, if all else fails, yeah. But I think that those, all these troubleshooting things, are the standard troubleshooting things you do at any time an app doesn't work well. Clear the cache, you know, clear the data, uninstall, reinstall, reboot the phone, those things it's it's worth doing, all of those, I think if you, if you do the bookmarks, that takes away all the like places she's signed into and everything else.

Yeah, that's why you kind of do it. Cookies are where all that stuff stored is cookies, um, okay, so that's why you want to slowly increase the number of things you're clearing, uh, until it works. But the but, the truth is it's the cat, it's probably the cash, the data cash. If not clear. If clearing that didn't fix it, it could be that it has a bad cookie. You can be selective in clearing cookies, so clear the bit warden cookies, uh, from the bit warden site. Make sure her day and date is correct on her phone. I don't see how it could possibly not be, but that's always another thing.

1:31:17 - Mikah Sargent
If the certificate doesn't work, then the site won't load um, and just to check, I did go to Bitwarden's website in Chrome on my phone and it is working here, so it's not like a system issue on there, so it's her machine itself, and that's why we're focusing on the stuff that's unique to her, like the cache.

1:31:37 - Leo Laporte
That's something you know and it's very. This happens a lot with browsing, where you start caching data or saving cookies that get corrupted and then the and then the website tries to load them goes I. I don't know what to do now, and that's could very well be what's going on okay, well, all right, thanks a lot.

1:31:54 - Caller
I think you give me a lot of good ideas and and stuff like that. Oh, it's right you called see this girl later and she can uh listen to it and do whatever you guys?

1:32:03 - Leo Laporte
what's her name? Carol. Hi, carol, hope this works. Good luck, take care very good thanks guys bye, bye, take care, I am wearing my uh seaweed sweater. Do you want to touch me? Come on, touch the seaweed. It's nice, nice Huh.

1:32:21 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, it's a lot more woven. It's a lot tighter woven than I thought it was going to be.

1:32:25 - Leo Laporte
It is. In fact, they call it a summer sweater. This is from Oliver Charles. I'm not doing an ad for them, I just Okay, it was the middle of the night. I'm on Instagram. I see this video of them harvesting seaweed in the clean fjords of Iceland and I thought why am I seeing this video? And they said now you can have a sweater made from this seaweed. Wow. And I, before I could even stop myself, I bought it. And that's the problem with Apple. Pay is so easy, it makes it. I'm just looking at the phone. It goes okay, you got it. And it's like no, not bad, too late. Anyway, I like it.

1:33:00 - Mikah Sargent
It's um you know there was uh just a court filing with the ftc from meta that shows instagram makes more money from ads than youtube does.

1:33:11 - Leo Laporte
Instagram for years makes more money was 32 billion in a year.

1:33:16 - Mikah Sargent
I think something like that, compared to 28.8 from youtube instagram makes, makes.

1:33:21 - Leo Laporte
And how does it make that money? Leo, ding ding, ding ding. Me Buying everything I see in the middle of the night. You don't want to know how much Instagram stuff I'm wearing right now.

1:33:32 - Mikah Sargent
It's a good thing you don't have sleep issues where you would need to take that sleep medication, because then you'd buy even more. Oh if.

1:33:38 - Leo Laporte
I took Ambien, Ambien yeah, bad news medication, because then you'd buy even more. Oh, if I took Ambien? Ambien. Yeah, Bad news. I gave you the garden though you did. That was one of the things I bought from Instagram last year.

1:33:47 - Mikah Sargent
It's a hydroponic garden in your home Very cool, with its own lighting and everything.

1:33:50 - Leo Laporte
Is it?

1:33:50 - Mikah Sargent
working. Is it doing it? Yeah, it connected with the Wi-Fi.

1:33:52 - Caller
The lights are on. The lights are on. It's very bright, isn't it? It is.

1:33:55 - Mikah Sargent
It's like daytime it's a little bright, bright and then you're gonna have lettuce uh-huh, I'm very excited for the lettuce, the radishes, all of that cucumber, yeah is that what you're gonna grow?

1:34:07 - Leo Laporte
yeah, you can get one cucumber, that's all I need. It's not very big right, I mean it's yeah, because it's a little pods is is its own little thing.

1:34:15 - Mikah Sargent
Think about growing some sunflowers as well.

1:34:18 - Leo Laporte
Very pretty flowers my experience was it's the leafy greens are probably the best way, because otherwise you don't have a lot of room. Right, you know we you'd grow one tomato, uh, another, wonderful instagram purchase.

1:34:33 - Mikah Sargent
Leo, do we need to talk about your addiction to buy things on instagram? Do we need to have intervention? You want to touch my sweater?

1:34:40 - Leo Laporte
it's really nice, it's actually nice, it's actually summer weight. They say as you wear it, it will conform to your body, which means it's tight but it stretches a little bit. I've washed it once just to see how it handled here he comes, just be thrown in the washing machine.

1:34:54 - Mikah Sargent
Come on, touch my sweater.

1:34:56 - Leo Laporte
Not the velvet coat.

1:34:59 - Mikah Sargent
See, it's different. It's tighter woven than I was thinking. They do 3d knitting. You know that there's no seam. What does that mean? They knit it as a tube. Oh, I see. Okay, it's a seamless design. Wait, so are the arms seamless too? Such a sucker, I guess. Is there not a? No, there's no seams. Okay, that's actually.

1:35:21 - Leo Laporte
The whole thing is knitted in one piece.

1:35:23 - Mikah Sargent
That's actually really cool. Okay, now I'm going to buy one In Brooklyn. Stupid, stupid. They knit them in Brooklyn and they're made in Brooklyn.

1:35:28 - Leo Laporte
They're made in Brooklyn. Look see, I got the check on my. It's bad On my Twitter, all of a. You go wait a minute. I didn't pay for that. This account is verified. Verified since 2010. Oh, so you did get it. I like that. It goes back to I got the full.

It went right back at the full thing and apparently I can use Grok and all and I can post video and stuff. I'm not going to Not that he's going to but yeah, I don't want to support Elon and his weird Weirdness, weirdness, pro nazis propaganda. But yeah, I think there were a lot of people who tweeted like molly white said no, no, I didn't pay for that no, yeah, it's yeah.

1:36:08 - Mikah Sargent
For some people it's kind of like I don't want, I didn't.

1:36:11 - Leo Laporte
I don't want to be verified, uh 2000 accounts with 2500 verified subscriber followers will get a free premium membership if you have over 5 000 uh free premium plus yeah.

1:36:24 - Mikah Sargent
So to be clear, they have the people who are following. You have to be paid subscribers. You have to have 2 500 people who are following you, who are paid subscribers of twitter, at where of x, at which point then you get your verification, which means you have to have like a million yeah, because like I've got 8 000 something but they're not all blue checks.

1:36:44 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, you need the blue checks, you gotta have the blue. It's kind of sad because like, wow, I now I have all this free stuff and I don't want to, I don't want it.

1:36:55 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, don't, I don't need it. I, I don't want it.

1:37:00 - Leo Laporte
What should we do now? Is it time for a pause, a refreshing pause? Let's do a question and then a pause.

1:37:06 - Mikah Sargent
Sure. How about this? Voicemail right here.

1:37:12 - Caller
Hi, my name is Dale. I'm calling from Knoxville, tennessee. Hi, dale, I have a small digital conversion business and I transfer, like VHS to DVD or VHS to some sort of a flash drive format. I've been using something like SoundBeast or Diamond, these digital converters. I mean they work okay, but I was wondering if there was something that I could use that would be, you know, even be better than than these choices. If you could help me, I sure would appreciate it. So thank you very much.

1:38:08 - Leo Laporte
I'm going to assume that you have uh, some Dale have some sort of digital to. I mean analog to digital conversion tool. Cause the first thing DVDs are one thing, cause they're digital. You can actually just copy the, the contents of a dvd, onto your drive and use handbrake or whatever you want to convert those. But vhs's are analog. So I'm gonna it's really two different answers you, but assuming that you can get the vhs to a digital form on your computer, and that's where you're going to want software and probably the software that came with your capture device. A lot of people use the Elgato. There are a lot of different choices. Elgato is kind of the king of the hill when it comes to this kind of stuff.

1:38:54 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, because the big thing that I've noticed with these systems you know you go to Amazon or wherever and you get a digital or you get a digital converter. You get it where it takes a VHS, turns it into a digital version. It's all written in. The software is all made to do this conversion. That is kind of locked away from you. You get the VHS and then it tries to immediately turn it into a DVD because it thinks that's what people want.

What is better is to get that VHS, turn it into a digital format of some sort that you can do whatever you want with it. So then you could turn it into a really small HEIC, for example, or you could make it an MP4. Basically, you have control over what's best for what device that the individual user will end up wanting. You's what you need to find some way to kind of intercept, not have it do this all in one system, because the reason they do that is because they again they think that's kind of what people want and in many cases it is. They go I just want this to be a DVD, but what you want is that file, because then it can be a DVD, it can be an MP4. It can be a. What a V, I can't think of what the one is, but yeah, whatever file format you end up wanting MKV, mkv. Thank you?

1:40:05 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, how can I read your mind so well? The tool that I use is a free tool. I don't know if it's the best tool out there, but I think it's better than a lot of the commercial choices you mentioned. In the diamond it's called Handbrake Absolutely.

Now, one thing to know about is, or one thing to think about is what do you want to put on the flash drive? Do you want the flash drive, for instance, to have all the DVD menus? You can't do this with VHS, but you can do it with DVDs. Do you want the menus? Do you want the extras? Do you want to? In other words, I put the flash drive in, or I put it on my hard drive and store it in a Plex server or whatever. Do I want it to load as if it's the DVD? Because you can. You can do it so that it's indistinguishable, even with Blu-ray discs, so that it's indistinguishable from the original, or that takes up a lot more space, right? You're going to basically be copying all the files theob files, the vts files, the whole thing over to your hard drive and storing it there and then have a player that will actually load it as if it's the dvd. So you get the menus, the all that stuff, or as many people want. Do you want to? Just, I just want the movie, or maybe I just want the movie plus the commentary. I just want the that part of it. I don't need all the superstructure that goes along with it. Handbrake will do that very well, which converted into a file format that is best for your playback. So that's the other thing you need to know is what I want to have? Playback, uh, playing it back. The nice thing about handbrake is actually gives you a choice of different styles depending on what you're going to be playing it back on or where it's going to be going, and they even have a setting for Gmail, like I'm going to mail this to somebody. So I do like it for that reason.

I think Handbrake's as fast as anything. I think it's just a front-end FFmpeg, as I remember, but it does all the work you want to do. What it doesn't do is break the copy protection. That's a little more complicated, and Handbrake explains what you need to do. To do that, for instance, for DVDs, you need to download the other free tool, vlc, the VLC player that can play back the DVD. It starts playback, it loads the key, the decryption key, into memory. And then Handbrake says, thank you very much, grabs it and now can decryption key into memory. And then handbrake says, thank you very much, grabs it and now can, can decrypt it. Uh, it's a little more complicated with blu-ray. They the, the uh. Blu-ray protection is a little bit stronger and for that I actually do use a commercial oh program I didn't even I have you ever ripped a blu-ray?

1:42:37 - Mikah Sargent
no, because I just was like yeah, it's not gonna work.

1:42:40 - Leo Laporte
Yeah glad you found a way um well it's it's copy protected even more right. So, um, there are a number of ways, uh, to do this. There is a tool called make mkv. This is very commonly used and that's that format that you were talking about. This does not store the menus. This just turns it into a video that you can use. Now that's free, um, and or you can purchase a license for it. Make mkv is very popular. It's been around for a long time. I would try the free version first.

This is a good article. I'll point you in direction. It's from a couple of years ago how to Rip Blu-ray Discs to your PC. This is from PC Magazine what's in. Gordon did a good job writing this all up using MakeMKV. I for a long time used a commercial program to do this, but I think the world has focused, has centered itself onto MakeMKV, and again it's kind of share, where you can buy it or not. I think that's probably the best way to go.

And then again you want to decide what format. You have a variety of choices, so that's going to depend somewhat. You said put it on a flash drive, and you said you have a service. Are you doing this for people? If they're bringing you their homemade dvds. They won't have copy protection. This is very easy to do with handbrake, but you want to ask them okay, what, what do you want for playback? And you can even put a multi variety of formats on that usb key. A normal two, two hour movie is about a gigabyte in size when it's compressed through a handbrake. But you'll you get some choices and you can make it bigger, for higher quality and so forth. But assume about a gigabyte per. I guess per hour is what I would say. So assume a gigabyte per hour, so a pretty big. You know, a normal USB key is going to be able to hold 10 movies, 20 movies, a variety of of copies.

Um, I don't think generally the, the commercial programs, are as good because they are usually coming from caribbean islands where they aren't going to get prosecuted because technically it's illegal to do this. Uh, the open source ones, they care a little bit less about that and I think they keep keep it to themselves. There's a lot of parameters to this. Go to the make the, actually probably the best thing if you're doing blu-rays. There are some good forums, uh, for all of this, including the. I think there's a make mkv forum that would give you all the information you need. There's a MakeMKV forum that would give you all the information you need. There's a lot of parameters setting, but those are the tools Handbrake, makemkv. You need some hardware to convert that VHS to digital form and then you can use Handbrake to modify it, put it in a variety of different forms. The MakeMKV forums are at MakeMKVcom.

Mkv is the Matryoshka format. You know what a Matryoshka is? I don't. Is it a doll? A nesting doll? Yeah, and so that's something to do with the fact that it's a wrapper for an encoded file. So you know it's a nesting doll of video formats MKV, matryoshka. Uh, all right, we're gonna take a little break and then guess what? Johnny jet is here, our traveling man you're watching. Ask the tech guys with two. Count them tech guys. That's micah sergeant. I'm Leo Laporte. We're glad you're here. Are you ready to travel? I'm so ready. Let's go to our traveling guide, johnny Jett, from johnnyjettcom. Hey.

1:46:29 - Mikah Sargent
Johnny Wow, look at that necklace.

1:46:33 - Leo Laporte
Did you just come back from the islands man? I think he's there. He's in the islands Aloha. Are you on Waikiki? That looks like Waikiki.

1:46:46 - Johnny Jet
Yeah, you know what? The clouds just rolled in and it was beautiful like an hour ago.

1:46:53 - Leo Laporte
But I can tell you've got a bit of a tan, you're getting some sun.

1:46:58 - Johnny Jet
Well, I tried not to. Are you down there with?

1:47:01 - Leo Laporte
the fam yes. They put a tent in our room.

1:47:12 - Johnny Jet
That's fun. How fun. Yes, definitely, and yeah, it's nice. I was walking along the beach yesterday and I ran into Rich DeMuro oh how funny. Yeah, and yeah, there's a lot of people down here. It's spring break, but you know we love coming here, although coming here was kind of a, I wrote a post about it. It's actually going viral right now thanks to Google picking it up. But you know we had three planes to get here. The first two planes had mechanical problems. One of them you know the pilot's like we have a problem with engine number two, but maintenance says it's okay to go, but I'm not feeling it, so I'm going to refuse this aircraft. Good on him. Yeah, that's good, and everyone applauded. It was amazing. I got it on video and I made a post out of it and Google has picked it up.

1:48:02 - Mikah Sargent
I'm not feeling it. That gives me goosebumps.

1:48:05 - Johnny Jet
It gave me goosebumps. I was like, listen, I have no problem. It was a six-hour delay. We had no idea. The pilot thought he was canceling the flight. He's like. I don't know what this means for you guys, but all I know is that I don't feel comfortable flying six hours over the ocean and not being 100%.

1:48:22 - Pilot from Video
The aircraft is being observed, so to speak, because oil pressure on the number two engine is trending upwards and the aircraft is going to require actually it's the fuel pressure fuel system filter replacement when the aircraft gets back from Hawaii. They've told us that the plane's good to go, but I'm not really feeling it. Wow, I'm not going to leave the ground if I'm not completely certain that we have an airworthy aircraft, so I'm going to probably err on the side of caution and I'm refusing the aircraft.

So what that means for you? Right now I'm not exactly sure. I don't know if we have another airplane here at the airport, but I hate to do this to you, but this is one of those tough calls that I have to make. I feel a lot more comfortable making this call than flying six hours over the water and maybe having an issue. Anyway, that's where things stand now. I apologize for that. The morning hasn't been so good. We do appreciate your patience, though. They're applauding him. Have everybody. Do play in the aircraft.

1:49:38 - Leo Laporte
You know what? Safety first. I agree 100%, definitely. I mean, if we were going to Chicago.

1:49:43 - Johnny Jet
I think people would be like you know what, safety first. I agree, a hundred percent, definitely. I mean, if we were going to chicago, I think people would be like you know what?

1:49:46 - Leo Laporte
yeah, we can land in des moines, but there's an ocean between us and hawaii. Wow, I have never heard of that happening, wow.

1:49:55 - Johnny Jet
And there were so many kids on the plane and I mean, and my kids, everyone, they were great. Everyone was so patient and you know the flight attendants and the pilots. You got to feel bad for them because they're not getting paid for delays, that's right, they don't get paid for the door closes.

1:50:07 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, yeah. And so six hours.

1:50:11 - Johnny Jet
But listen, we made it and it's all good.

1:50:16 - Leo Laporte
Safe and sound. You know, bravo to that captain. I'm sure that was a very difficult decision for him to make, and that was our second plane of the day.

1:50:24 - Johnny Jet
We had to get on a third one.

1:50:25 - Leo Laporte
Yikes, but bravo to that captain. And you know, here's an important thing to keep in mind when you're traveling. And I don't even doesn't mean you're going to Timbuktu, it means you're going to Hawaii with a family. You got to be a little patient, right, johnny? Travel this is the nature of travel. Things happen, stuff comes up, there's waits, there's delays, and it's part of the process of traveling, right?

1:50:49 - Johnny Jet
If you don't want that stay home.

So and if that does happen. So what I was doing is I got on my phone, I started looking at alternate flights and just you know, cause there's. You know, if they're going to cancel a plane with almost 200 people on it, they're going to have. You're going to have a hard time finding new seats. So I was going to get us new seats. And flights were cheap, by the way $147 last minute for the, for the for the next flight out and um anyway. But go to a gate agent. We had lounge access. So I went to the lounge and they said you know what? I think we're going to be able to find a new plane. And they did. Normally that doesn't happen. So you want to be protected and get on the next flight. So then ask an agent to protect you and put you on and change your flight if you aren't feeling it, and I was ready to go home and go back the next day and do it. But you have to have a plan B when you travel.

1:51:37 - Leo Laporte
That's great and you are there and the family's digging it. I have this great picture of them on Waikiki Beach that you put up on your website, johnnyjetcom. I love the title of your piece. I'm not really feeling it. Yeah, wow, but good on him for doing that. We're all concerned with flight safety a little bit more than we have been in the past, these days, definitely.

1:52:03 - Johnny Jet
I mean, boeing's been getting you know right through the coils and actually a travel agency came up with a pretty clever website. It's called amiflyingonaboeingcom. Amiflyingonaboeingcom oh nice. So if you go to that website, you put in your flight number. It tells you if you're on a Boeing or not.

1:52:22 - Leo Laporte
Oh, that's hysterical.

1:52:24 - Johnny Jet
It's brilliant marketing because at the bottom it says Powered by who, somebody? It's some travel agents I've never even heard of. Oh, okay.

1:52:34 - Leo Laporte
It's a travel agent.

1:52:34 - Johnny Jet
At the bottom. Okay, but you know you put in any flight number. If you know what you're, you can put in a. What flight do I do? I do ac788. That's an air canada boeing.

1:52:47 - Leo Laporte
I do that one often which is uh la to toronto. Let me just, I'm just uh at a at a curiosity.

You know I use flighty, so I always know exactly what equipment definitely I, I'm the one that turned you on this lady yes, you are, and even though it's not free, I very happily pay for it because I've learned about flight delays before they even know that they're going to happen at the gate. Let me just check my flight real quickly Aw drat. It says we couldn't find the aircraft model. That's why I have flighty, because flighty tells me it's an airbus.

1:53:24 - Johnny Jet
oh, thank goodness your next flight, you mean, or yeah?

1:53:29 - Leo Laporte
I'm going to rhode island on an a320 a week from monday, but I like those airbuses, I have to say yeah, we came in on airbus.

1:53:38 - Johnny Jet
Yeah, yeah, our flight was a31. If you put that in, you'll see. It says you're not on a Boeing. And but listen, no one should be scared about flying on Boeing. Boeing, you know. They've had their problems.

1:53:53 - Leo Laporte
Tiny fraction of the overall air travel. I mean definitely we, lisa and I, went to Cabo, as you know, a couple of weeks ago and I didn't say anything. But as we got on the plane to come home I noticed it was a 737 MAX and I just didn't mention it. But I just said you know we'll get there when we get there.

1:54:15 - Mikah Sargent
How many of the people, how many times does the pilot who hears about the oil dealie choose to still fly? Though that's what worries me. Hearing that post, hearing that video earlier, I'm going right. This pilot chose to not fly.

1:54:31 - Leo Laporte
What's important is the captain is ultimately in control. Right, definitely, and I think these captains take their job very seriously. One hopes, definitely yeah.

1:54:43 - Johnny Jet
But it also helps. I mean, when it's you. You know someone who's been around for a while I think he has and, um, you know, if it was someone who just got off, just just got hired, and they said it's good to go, they might go because you know they don't know better, right, or they're afraid to uh, stand up to the, to the company so well, one hopes you're flying with a company that lets its captains make those very crucial but see, that's all we have is hope, though that's what I'm saying.

1:55:05 - Mikah Sargent
That's not great. I kind of want more than just hope.

1:55:08 - Leo Laporte
Uh, what else you got for us, Mr Johnny jet, johnnyjetcom.

1:55:12 - Johnny Jet
Well, we've taught you. I assume you talked about the um eclipse cause. Nasa has a great website right now.

1:55:18 - Leo Laporte
We did exactly Exactly the time. Yeah, Okay, the eclipse explorer. Now are you going to see anything in Hawaii?

1:55:24 - Johnny Jet
No, you're really yeah, actually a little bit. You could go into that website. You know, search NASA, explore eclipse, and you'll. You'll see the website you put in whatever city in the U S or zip code and at 6, 49 AM, 49 am it's going to start here, but it's going to be like just a sliver, really yeah yeah, well, make sure the kids don't stare at the eclipse. No, you know what, this morning, at that time, it was cloudy. And I think the kids will be, asleep.

The sun's coming out now. Yeah, it changes so much here.

1:55:57 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, what hotel do you like in Waikikiiki?

1:56:01 - Johnny Jet
I mean, listen, I like we're at the halakalani, which is prime time yesterday, we a couple days ago. We're at the halapuna, which is their sister property, which is really nice as well, not as expensive. But you know, you got the helton hawaiian village which we went to their luau on friday night supposed to be the best luau in town it's a fun one, yeah, but we didn't have the greatest weather well, you can't control the weather.

1:56:28 - Leo Laporte
You can do everything else you can't control definitely yeah, and also um.

1:56:32 - Johnny Jet
What do I have for you? I got nexus, and global entry are raising their prices, so if you want to do. Now is the time to do it. I mean, we've talked about this many times, but Nexus is the best deal in town. It's $50 for five years and includes Global Entry and TSA PreCheck. Global Entry is $100 for five years. They're both being raised to $120.

1:56:56 - Leo Laporte
It's still worth it. Believe me, it really is. I did the Global Entry because you told me to and, of course, the hard thing is to get the interview now. Nexus, do you have to do it in canada?

1:57:07 - Johnny Jet
you have to do it at border city.

1:57:08 - Leo Laporte
So either either in canada or you have to do it in like buffalo or seattle niagara because it's the canadian uh main plan uh, but global entry you could do many airports uh. My little trick was you can do it when you're flying back from an international flight. Then you, then you don't have to make an appointment because I think there are no appointments available. They're very hard to get the appointments.

1:57:31 - Johnny Jet
Well, and I also have another site that actually will get you an appointment. What's that? You have to pay for it. It's twenty nine dollars and actually I just lost it on my notes. Let me just bring up my news that I wrote about it yesterday. Actually it was a rerun, but the site is for Global Entry, nexus and Century. Century is the Mexican one, and actually that price is going to go down because right now century is $122 and 50 cents but they're all going to 120. So there's a couple of ones. One's called an appointment scanner. It's an app appointment scannercom.

1:58:11 - Leo Laporte
Oh, so they're going out and looking at whatever there's some digital API that they can get. It's a bot, yeah exactly.

1:58:17 - Johnny Jet
So the moment someone cancels their appointment you get a notification and I've had multiple readers say they found one in 10 minutes at places. They could not get for months.

1:58:28 - Leo Laporte
Wow, that's pretty cool how to quickly find global entry, nexus and Sentry appointments from Johnny Jet on, also on Johnny Jet dot com. You know, I have global entry and I've yet to use it, but someday you get to have global entry and I've I've yet to use it, but someday you get to use global entry. Yeah, I'm sure it's really cool, is it?

1:58:46 - Johnny Jet
because the lines are not long when you're just haven't been traveling internationally.

1:58:50 - Leo Laporte
Uh, it's because I have a partner who doesn't have global entries.

1:58:54 - Johnny Jet
There was actually a story about that the other day, about what do you do?

1:58:58 - Leo Laporte
you don't do global entry, because I'm not leaving lisa to get in the long line while I go see you later. That'd be, like you know, flying back. She said I want to upgrade. I said great, check, see if there's upgrades. She said there's an upgrade for one and I'm not going to leave you in the back, which was very nice. So I said well then I'm not going to use global entry, so there it's a little yeah, but someday she'll have it, and then we'll both be skating through the passport controls.

1:59:29 - Johnny Jet
But rumor has it, with this new when they roll it out in October, the new prices they're no longer going to require kids to have an appointment, which has been ridiculous. I had to sign my kids up when they're not even one years old and go find a train.

1:59:40 - Leo Laporte
So what's your criminal record, little Johnny? I know what you've done so yeah, I think it's a nice way to travel. You get kind of a free pass going through the customs. When we came back from Cabo it was an hour and a half long lines on a Saturday afternoon at SFO to get into the country and it was just a long, long wait and I was kind of sad.

2:00:06 - Johnny Jet
So at SFO actually people say global entry lines are long, so what you do is use mobile passport.

2:00:12 - Leo Laporte
Do they?

2:00:12 - Johnny Jet
still I thought they just stopped doing that they changed the name of it, so let me tell you the name changes. You know, I've been meaning to write about this the name changes.

2:00:23 - Leo Laporte
I, you know I've been meaning to write about this. Yeah, this, this was the one where some of the airports in the us had machines that you would go up to machines.

2:00:28 - Johnny Jet
I sound like it I now called these machines control mobile passport.

And then there's an app, right yeah, this is the app so you can get it on on their website, the government's website. I'll put it in the chat room, but it's on Google Play and the Apple Store and I haven't used this because I have global entry. But you know, when you land, you just take a picture, you put in all your information and boom. I have friends that say they use it at SFO instead of global entry because the global entry line is long because everyone has it.

2:01:03 - Leo Laporte
Here it is, I have it. Begin your entry process. New submission Guide to getting started. Now let's see where it's supported. Oh, all over the place. Okay, so you can see what airports they see. I wish I had checked this this you don't need to sign up for a program, right?

2:01:23 - Johnny Jet
Anybody can use this. Anyone can use it.

2:01:24 - Leo Laporte
That would have saved you an hour and a half. Oh man, I wish I'd done this. So now I know, make a mental note next time. Make a mental note because lisa could have downloaded this app too. We could have used it definitely to get through real quick. I've used it before, back when they had the kiosks, but now they don't. They took, they decommissioned the kiosks very quickly, but this is the same idea, but you do it on your phone. Yeah, see my passports in here and everything. Huh, I guess I have used this before and forgot.

2:01:54 - Johnny Jet
Listen, that happens to me oh.

2:02:00 - Leo Laporte
I'm in here. Okay, good, nice, johnny Jet. Johnnyjetcom is the website. Go there and you can get all of this and a lot more. He's always publishing great useful stuff for traveling and I think we're kind of getting back to traveling again, which I'm very happy about. We got to get this guy here traveling.

2:02:18 - Caller
He doesn't like to travel. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford traveling.

2:02:22 - Mikah Sargent
It's not in my, it's not, we're going to japan.

2:02:25 - Leo Laporte
When are you going to japan, john? No, no, he was you and I.

2:02:28 - Mikah Sargent
You and I are supposed to talk about that back when I was a little bit more idealistic and not realistic. It's okay, I'll go to japan for you, thank you.

2:02:38 - Leo Laporte
Japan is wonderful. I'd love to go to Japan again. I really think we should do a quick trip there. Yeah, I agree. Well, or Hawaii. Have you ever been to Hawaii? No, virgin Islands no. Aruba, jamaica No- Bermuda, oh I see you're doing the song. Yeah girl, I want to take you Aruba, jamaica. No. I'm sorry that you have not seen the world and we're going to have to give you a raise.

2:03:05 - Johnny Jet
That's all there is to it. A travel raise. A travel raise. My first time out of the country. I was 23.

2:03:11 - Mikah Sargent
Oh, to live that privileged life Woo.

2:03:15 - Johnny Jet
So you have. You know, you're a young man.

2:03:17 - Leo Laporte
Why should people travel, Johnny?

2:03:22 - Johnny Jet
There's multiple reasons but, as corny as it sounds, I truly believe the more people travel internationally, the less prejudices there will be in the world. Amen, and I remember my first time going overseas. I was so afraid. You know you're watching like fox news and stuff and I'll be. Oh my god, I'm gonna get my head cut off and I get, I get, I go to another country. I'm like, oh my god, I feel safer here than I do at home.

2:03:41 - Leo Laporte
Going to Mexico is such a pleasure that people are so warm, it's so much fun. And I think there are a lot of people who say, oh, I read all the bad stories about what happens in Mexico. I'm not going. No, it's not that way at all. It's amazing place. That's just one example that one's easy to get to. We can get you to the people's.

2:03:58 - Johnny Jet
The people, it's the food, oh the food.

2:04:01 - Leo Laporte
Change the scenery it's just, and seeing people from other cultures and experiencing other cultures is such a wonderful experience. It freshens your mind, it gets you out of your rut, it gets you to see things another way, and I think that's a very valuable thing. A hundred percent, johnny jett, I'm gonna let you go. You gotta go enjoy the beach with your young ones get out. There I spent a lot of time in waikiki beach. That is a very crowded beach yeah, some people.

2:04:27 - Johnny Jet
Some people hate it. I love it because it's easy.

2:04:29 - Leo Laporte
There's so many restaurants go to the north shore. That's now.

2:04:32 - Johnny Jet
That's nice yeah, turtle bay is great, oh yeah, oh yeah. Or go to maui, kawaii big island.

2:04:39 - Leo Laporte
You know, I always thought oahu would not, would be too touristy for me. And then we went to the North Shore and it was beautiful and I loved it. I mean, there's parts of Oahu Oahu could be just as wild as any of the other Hawaiian islands. It's a beautiful place and Honolulu's fun. Go to the Arizona Memorial. The last sailor, the last survivor of the Arizona passed last week. Oh wow.

He was 104?. Yeah, it's an amazing, very reverent, very powerful experience to go out to the Arizona. It's a memorial on the site where the boat was sunk, wow, and hundreds of sailors died. Many of the people, including this, I'm sure this guy who just passed, who were survivors, have made their last resting place with their comrades under the sea in the Arizona and it's a very beautiful memorial.

2:05:33 - Johnny Jet
And you can still see the oil come up. That oil still leaks up. It's still leaking up.

2:05:36 - Leo Laporte
There's a little oil slick there. And when you land, when you come into, when you fly into Hon, into honolulu, you know, stay on the left side of the plane and you'll have a view of it right before touchdown. Oh cool, there's great, great museums there. There's lots to see. It's really a wonderful site. All right, john, have a fun time in oahu with your family yeah we're getting ready to pack up and go home anyway.

2:05:57 - Johnny Jet
So we're, you know, we've been here for a while and it's we love it so great.

2:06:02 - Leo Laporte
Johnnyjetcom. Follow him on Instagram. You can see the picture Rich DeMuro took of Johnny and Rich on the beach, and a whole lot more. He's also on YouTube. He's also on Twitter. He's everywhere. Thank you, john, thank you, johnny, take care. Bye-bye. You're watching. Ask the Tech Guys Mikah sargent over there, Leo Laporte right over there, more to come? And what more would that be? How about let's do another email? I like the emails I'm getting. You notice my, uh, my shoulder is really loosening up. I know it's very impressive.

2:06:34 - Mikah Sargent
I blame the kombucha. Do that more. It's your gut. Biome is just kombucha. Fixes everything it does. I've recently discovered that.

2:06:42 - Leo Laporte
That's what my chakra artist told me. Yeah, just get some kombucha in you. Google photo video retrieval. This comes from Steve and he ends it with I hope that makes sense. Oh dear, Hello Leah and Mikah. Thanks to on-air advice from Leo Years ago, I digitized 75 hours of analog family tapes, vhs and eight millimeter and mp4 format. I also stored another several hours of mini dv tapes in mp4 format. All of the above stored locally and on google photos with no editing done. Oh, it's a lot of video. How can I find a way to make all these videos searchable by date, person, event, location et cetera? I'm thinking I'm going to have to watch each video, make notes of the above attributes. I would love to have a system where a family member could click a link and go to their chosen interest at the appropriate time mark on the video. Oh my, I think it's only a matter of time before AI makes this pretty automatic.

Just built in. I wouldn't spend any time right now doing it. I do think Miley is probably the best bet for at least the photo. Miley will store the videos. It will do what you just asked for automatically on the stills. I don't know if it has that capability on videos, but they have so many cool features. They just, they just I can't remember. Are we allowed to tell them what we just oh yeah, which ones and which ones.

Oh, they should never tell us this. They have some very interesting sharing features and they've just had some family tree features which I think are really cool, where you can automatically add this. Just had some family tree features which I think are really cool, where you can automatically add this stuff to your family tree. I I think here's what I would suggest, because I know ai will solve this. Yep, it hasn't yet, but I know ai will solve this. Steve, I would get it into mylio. Uh, it's free for one computer, so at least do that m y l I o. It's free for one computer, so at least do that M-Y-L-I-O Free for your first computer. If you want to put it on multiple systems, which I do for backup purposes, then there's a Miley O Pro subscription. It's not very expensive. This is kind of an amazing program.

Former sponsor. I think they're coming back. I hope they are so that for sure, uh will give you at least a starting point. I think that you can. Then I, I think you know within a year they'll have lay the foundation, and then they have video.

But they'll have that video recognition because they do it right now with people in stills, right? So you just say that's grandma, that's that's aunt jane, that's joe, that's kenny, kenny, and then that's Joe, that's Kenny, and then it will automatically find all the photos of all those people and it also does all the things you just described with stills of you know, saying well, here you are in the mountains, here you are in Oahu, all of that stuff. So I think in time I'm going to bet there will be AI solutions that will do that with video.

2:09:42 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, probably automatically add chapters to a movie and that kind of thing Exactly.

2:09:47 - Leo Laporte
I think this is just a matter of time. I'm really excited about here's the family history thing. Let me find a picture of you. Let's see. We're going to post those memories to family search. Okay, and this is free. This is part of the Miley feature set. Oh, you have to create an account, so I won't do that right now, but they share it to FamilySearch, which is the LDS database. You can then cross-reference, you can basically build a family tree with it, and it's all done automatically, exactly what you just described, including the sharing, currently with stills. Soon, I don't know if anything will do it with video yet If that happens, it will. Miley will do it first. For some reason, they just they're crazy about adding new features and let me see if Google does that with videos. They will do a highlight video. Yeah, I'm wondering about. So I think maybe the next step you're already in Google. So, yeah, it says Google has added this feature called AI drive reels. Ai driven reels. Oh, I've seen these.

2:10:57 - Mikah Sargent
Yeah, but isn't that like with it's highlights? Yeah, it's kind of like what Apple does with Apple photos. Yeah, I was more. Yeah was more. Yeah, I mean there. This is the thing. There are multiple ways to pull this off right now, but I do think the sit and wait is the better, better.

Yeah, I wouldn't put a lot of effort into it because, because I I've thought of a whole process where you could do it by hand. You would, you know, run it through mac whisper, get those those transcripts, put them into a private, you could upload to YouTube at a, an unlisted link, and then have chapters. But see, that's so much more complicated than just waiting.

2:11:28 - Leo Laporte
Yeah, within a year, I promise you here's a, here's a. Uh, the discord is sending us a. Uh, a wall street journal. Thank you, eat the oligarchs. Isn't that ironic? Eat the oligarchs reads the Wall Street Journal. I don't know what that means. Maybe he's just, you know, keeping up on the enemy, but this home gym equipment watches you work out, so fitness gear is now using AI to watch your workouts and intervene. Peloton does it tempo fitcher and say and it's not doing it as a human, it's doing it as AI. Now I should warn you a lot of what we thought was AI is turning out to be humans. That's true too. What was the recent?

2:12:12 - Mikah Sargent
It's very common with a story rendering stuff about?

2:12:16 - Leo Laporte
Oh, what was it? A service that was discontinued because it was so expensive, because the humans had to do all the work. This is.

2:12:24 - Mikah Sargent
Amazon's workout.

2:12:26 - Leo Laporte
Oh, the walkout. You're right, amazon walkouts. So Amazon stores you know they had this thing where you take it off the shelf and you walk out and you don't pay and oh, it's all done. With AI, it turns out almost like 90% of the videos had to be reviewed by a human to make sure that they actually were charging you for the thing that you were carrying out in your hand. And we're learning more and more Self-driving vehicles. There's a lot more takeovers by humans than we thought. So there certainly are some areas where maybe AI has not panned out quite with what we thought, but I think it's pretty clear that google photos, miLeo, other tools are able to apple to recognize people in stills that will be extended to videos. That has to be yeah, I almost certainly.

2:13:09 - Mikah Sargent
Why not? Why would that not be next? Video is just a bunch of stills, well, and think about how it's also an opportunity to for all these companies to update their terms of service that we automatically agree to, and suddenly they they're training their AI models with our photos and videos. I mean with our videos.

2:13:25 - Leo Laporte
That was, by the way, another story that we're going to be talking about in just a few minutes on this Week in Tech. It turns out that Meta was no OpenAI, was training its videos on YouTube videos without asking permission of Google, and Google's now changing its policies so that they can train their ai on your youtube videos, I mean if it's public. Well, it was against google's terms of service. Meta, I guess kind of open ai I mean open ai kind of must have gotten caught or admitted it. Um, but basically what we found out is that the open ai guy this was in the new york times this week the open ai guy said, yeah, just do it anyway, just do it.

2:14:07 - Mikah Sargent
I mean, isn't that kind of their whole thing, frankly?

2:14:10 - Leo Laporte
just go ahead and do it, just do it. Yeah, uh, we are so glad you did one thing, which is to join us on this show today. We are so glad we do, uh, the Ask the Tech Guys show every Sunday about 11 am Pacific, 2 pm Eastern, 1800 UTC. You can join us and watch it live. I know you need to watch it live, to call live, right, so we put it on YouTube. Youtubecom slash twit. As soon as we start the show, we go live. You can watch. If you want to call us, you can call in during the show at 888-724-2884. If you are calling when the show's not on, after in about five minutes to next week, then you can leave a voice message, and we love the voicemails. You heard one, so that's great too. You can email So please do send us your videos, your audios. Leave a voicemail message. We will get to as many as we can. Next week I will show you more toys next week, I'm sure. Oh, we're going to get this Newton. Yeah.

2:15:14 - Mikah Sargent
To our caller.

2:15:15 - Leo Laporte
Yep, that's good, but you can't have my Atari. My little baby Atari, that's mine to keep forever. I can't have my atari, my little baby atari, that's mine to keep forever. I thought I would never again see my atari 400.

2:15:26 - Mikah Sargent
That's so cute, so nice if these keyboard. I know I was hoping it was real it doesn't?

2:15:28 - Leo Laporte
that'd be nice I could do atari basic. I spent so many hours typing programs in on this membrane keyboard. I had blisters on my fingers.

2:15:36 - Mikah Sargent
It's like you could play guitar after that thanks for joining us, micah.

2:15:41 - Leo Laporte
You're going to be back here on Tuesday for iOS Today.

2:15:44 - Mikah Sargent
Thursdays for Tech News Weekly and all of the other shows I do publish on Thursdays as well, as part of the club.

2:15:50 - Leo Laporte
Here's some exciting news Mikah's going to stick around for Twit. I am indeed, and he's going to be back on the 21st, our next open house, because I realized people wanted to meet you. They did Some of them, yeah. And here's some more good news On the 21st, jason Howells agreed to come in and do twit with us. Well, that's lovely so that'll be a lot of fun. Yeah, so we are going to get out of here so we can start letting our studio audience in. You stick around, don't go anywhere anywhere, we'll be going anywhere in just a few minutes.

We thank you all for joining us. Thanks so much on behalf of Mikah Sargent. I'm Leo Laporte. Have a great geek week.

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