The Tech Guy Episode 1877 Transcript

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Leo Laporte (00:00:07):
This. Hi, this is Leo Laporte and this is my Tech Guy podcast. This show originally aired on the premier networks on Saturday, March 19th, 2022. This is episode 1877. Enjoy no ads, just the content. That's what you get when you join club TWiT, you even get extras like TWiT. Plus our new bonus features for members and exclusive access to the club. Twit discord community. Join now for just $7 a month to support TWiT. As we continue to create top-notch podcasts you expect and just we're just getting started. So be one of the first to join. As we build club TWiT from the ground up, you could be an early member. Go to twit.tv/clubtwit to learn more and sign up now. Thanks. Well, Hey, Hey. Hey, how are you today? Leo? Leport here the tech guy along with Mike Sergeant. He's the tech I too. Hello? Hello. Today we are gonna be talking a little bit about if you don't like apple, maybe you shouldn't listen. Cause yesterday we both got some apple stuff,

Mikah Sargent (00:01:14):
Apple stuff. It came in finally, I guess it was launched today. So of course it came in on time.

Leo Laporte (00:01:21):
This is the show we talk about apple stuff and other stuff too. No everything with the chip and eighty eight eighty eight ask Leo's the phone number? Eighty eight eight eight two seven five five three six, toll free from anywhere in the us or Canada, outside that area. You could still reach us, but you have to use Skype or something like that. Some internet do Hickey to to get a whole old of us. 88, 88, ask Leo should be toll free, no matter how you call, because I don't know why some, for some reason it's supposed to be toll free website tech, guy labs.com. That's where you can get everything we talk about. We'll put links up there. There's a transcript of the show. There's even audio and video from the show. After the fact@techguylabs.com and that's free. There's no sign up, no charge. Please use it. Liberally. There costs us very little for you to visit tech guy labs.com.

Leo Laporte (00:02:18):
So I, you know, actually we're not gonna spend the whole show, obviously talking about this stuff, but I think I, there's some interesting things to say about the new apple gear yesterday. You got the Mac studio display, which is the new apple monitor first low end monitor they've made in years, not low end $1,500. It's not that low end. But first less than $6,000 monitor they've made in years. And then I got the max studio and I don't know why, but I guess cuz I was buying it for my lovely wife. I, I maxed it sort of. So it's the M one ultra the high end chip. We some, we needed to see that and play with it. It's heavy.

Mikah Sargent (00:02:58):
It was very heavy. It's got a copper coolant system inside of it. It's fat. It's yeah, it's a lot bigger than I think I was even expecting. We, we lifted up the box and thought, oh my goodness, this is this is a lot to work with here.

Leo Laporte (00:03:12):
It's not the Mac mini. We were thinking like a, a new Mac mini or high end Mac mini or even a Mac mini pro. It isn't, it's the same footprint as a Mac mini, but it's more than twice as tall and it's a lot more powerful than even the M one mini. Well now that's an interesting point,

Mikah Sargent (00:03:27):
Right? Cuz it's depends on how you look at

Leo Laporte (00:03:29):
It and how you use it. Yes. So really important. And this is this, you know, when I plugged it in at home, got all set up, said, Lisa, sit down. She said, this is great. She just like my laptop.

Mikah Sargent (00:03:41):
And he said, oh,

Leo Laporte (00:03:42):
Well it is

Mikah Sargent (00:03:43):
Right

Leo Laporte (00:03:44):
Because what makes the new M one pro M one max and M one ultra. So ultra is their multicore performance. So all computers run two kinds of process, well, many kinds of processors, but two primary kinds of processors, the CPU central process unit and the GPU, the graphics processing unit. And when in this actually kind of started with Intel back in the day when they realized they couldn't make the CPU any faster because of heat problems you get many more errors. It just becomes problematic. If you go faster than about four gigahertz, 4 billion cycles per second, it just, it doesn't work very well. They tried it with a chip. They called the Itanium and it was a, it was way too hot. It was kind of a flop. So Intel said, well, Hmm, scratching their head. We now we got problem.

Leo Laporte (00:04:41):
Cuz in Moore's law, we gotta double up capabilities. Every 18 months we we've gotta do something. Oh Hey, you know how we could double it. We could put two of them in technically doubling it. That was the core two duo technically doubling it because you have two chips, but there's reasons why that doesn't necessarily make a difference in performance for one's thing. It only benefits a program that uses or can use the two chips simultaneously. So that, and that's by the way, not your operating system, that's not your word processor. That's not your browser. It's not, it's almost nothing you would do normally uses more than one processor at a time. Hmm. So there really wasn't much gain to be had from dual core quad core. There's there's even many more cores. It uses a lot more power and a lot more heat.

Leo Laporte (00:05:32):
Apples has come up with their no own chips, which are much lower power, much less hot. And they are doing now with the M one pro and the actually the M one pro and then one max are single core. But this ultra, the one we just got with the studio is the first dual core where it has two systems on a chip linked together with a very, very fast 7.5 terabyte interconnect, which means they can talk to each other almost instantaneously, which is better than Intel, frankly, but still it's two chips. And unless the thing you want to do requires, or is capable of splitting the job up into two different tasks, there's not a lot of benefit to that. So my wife really wasn't wrong when she said that this M one ultra $4,999 computer wasn't any faster than her. M one 19, actually $1,000 M one MacBook air, cuz they're running at the same clock speed.

Leo Laporte (00:06:34):
If it's a single process that the doesn't use multiple cores, you're not gonna see the benefit. O you say in your mind or out loud, if you're alone, what about the GPU? Well, it's the same thing. They have a GPU it's got multiple cores, many cores. I mean with the M one ultra, I think you've got something like 20 CPU cores or threads. You've got two chips, but you've got 20 cores and the, the processors up to 32 cores, I think so. But is it 32 times faster? No, only if you're running 32 things at once, which most people don't ever do.

Leo Laporte (00:07:17):
So it's really an important lesson. How much Ram you get is good. And by doubling the chips, apple doubles the Ram capability. So they now can go up to 128 gigs. They were stuck at 16 with the original M one. So that's good. They have more Thunderbolt ports because again, that was limited by the number of Thunderball ports provided by the single core so they can do more and it, it will be faster if you need a lot of memory, graphics, processors have access to all that memory. So they'll be faster. But the core itself is running at the same clock speed on all the chips, all the M ones from the very first Mac mini or the M one MacBook air to the most recent Mac studio, ultra max super duper high end. You can actually get up to about $7,000 if you max it out. So the only people who should buy that by the way, people who know they're gonna be using stuff that uses multiple cores, that's who you, you would know if you need it. I think

Mikah Sargent (00:08:17):
That's, that's a perfect way to put it. Yes. You know, if this is something that you need, otherwise you would be so happy with a machine that is far less costly than this. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:08:27):
So that's a really, I think that's maybe not said enough really. But what, what is cool is what Apple's doing with these processors is really amazing. Not necessarily faster than Intel. It's point that out until an AMD do have chips that are faster, but at what price at about four or five times more, watage a lot more heat as a result of bigger thing. You know, this Mac studio for as fat as it is almost all of it is the power supply and the fan or thrusters or whatever they call 'em. The, the computer itself is really just a little thin board. Not much bigger than a couple of iPhones and side by side, that's it. So, but, and they do need cooling cuz they're gonna be running as fast as their little feet can run. But I have to say trying as hard as I could to max it out, this ultra never got hot. The fan never got loud. It was going the whole time. Now the interesting thing, your display has a fan in it too.

Mikah Sargent (00:09:24):
Yeah, well there was some, some cool and cooling feels up at the top of it where the vents were, which was interesting.

Leo Laporte (00:09:31):
This is a 27 inch monitor. They call the studio display 1500 bucks actually could spend more if you want to get a pivoting arm,

Mikah Sargent (00:09:40):
Nano texture glass fancy, all that,

Leo Laporte (00:09:43):
That kinda stuff. It's a nice monitor. It's not a great monitor. It doesn't have HDR. It's only 600 nits of brightness, which isn't, there are brighter monitors out there. There are better monitors out there for lot less. LG ultra fine display, which apple was selling their 5k monitors 200, 300 bucks less. But what's interesting about this. We seem, it seems to be, this has an iPhone built in.

Mikah Sargent (00:10:04):
Yeah. That's kind of what it boils down to. So 

Leo Laporte (00:10:06):
That's really weird.

Mikah Sargent (00:10:07):
In fact, there was scooter X has shared the quote a few times during fireballs, John Guber went into the system information menu, graphic slash displays and discovered that the studio display is running software version 15.4 with a build number. And that build number happens to be the same number that's associated with iOS 15.4.

Leo Laporte (00:10:24):
It's the latest iOS. Yep. Not, not even an old one. It's the brand new one,

Mikah Sargent (00:10:30):
Iphone 11 running iOS 15.4. Some

Leo Laporte (00:10:31):
People did report. I don't know if you when you connected it, if you, did you have a, a software update on your monitor?

Mikah Sargent (00:10:37):
No, not right away.

Leo Laporte (00:10:38):
Jason Snell, a good friend of ours. His crashed. Yes

Mikah Sargent (00:10:42):
It did. It did

Leo Laporte (00:10:43):
Now. It's this was always a puzzle when apple said, yeah, we're gonna put the a 11 bionic in it, which is the same chip as the iPhone 11 or a 13. 13. Yeah. Sorry. It's in the iPhone 11. Like why for what? And it does have, you know, some features like, Hey, you know who, except that you still need a computer for, you know, who to talk back. It does have surround sound coming out of its were the speakers good? Did you

Mikah Sargent (00:11:10):
Like 'em spatial audio. Yeah. And the speakers were better than what I was using before. So absolutely. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:11:15):
So that's good. And it it has a, a webcam built into it, which does center stage, which is apples technology for following you around like the Mona Lisa just staring at you. However, yes, the camera reportedly. Not very good. What, what,

Mikah Sargent (00:11:30):
In fact, one person asked me if I needed to clean off my WEBC

Leo Laporte (00:11:33):
It was smooshy.

Mikah Sargent (00:11:34):
It was, it was just like a little bit of Vaseline. Got

Leo Laporte (00:11:38):
It's got fingerprints on. Yeah. And that's what wall street journals reporting. The verge ne Eli Patel the F four mentioned John Gruber from during firewall are saying this camera's terrible. Apple said, yeah, sorry. Oh, whoops. I don't know how this happens. Whoops. Oh yeah. We blew it. We're gonna ship out at some point. We don't know when you didn't get a fix yet. Nope, no fix yet. We're gonna ship out an update, a software update. That'll make it better. Maybe that's why you put in an iPhone in there. Then you can ship software updates to the monitor as you want to.

Mikah Sargent (00:12:09):
Yeah. I just don't. I don't know if I like the idea of a display crashing on

Leo Laporte (00:12:12):
Don't like that at all. This doesn't do that. I'm no display I've ever had crashes. Your TV does cuz it's a computer. Yeah, that's true. But most monitors just, you know, passive little things anyway I canceled. Believe it or not. You do. After reading these reviews, I canceled my Mac studio display order, cuz I just I'm using a $600. LG 4k HDR display. That looks fantastic on that Mac studio. That's fine. I have a better camera. I got the Logitech Brio for my, this is all for my wife. Cause I would never get this for myself. The Logitech Brio camera she, you know, it's, it's working quite well. She doesn't need the studio display. The, the Mac studio itself is great. I, you know, fine, but don't go crazy. You don't have to buy it. You can just get exactly. Even the MacBook air is, is fast for 99% of what normal people do unless you're a photographer. More importantly like a video editor, you're doing 3d modeling, something fancy like that. You really, you really don't need to spend more money. And that's the that's the word is eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo that's the phone number? I am I am anxious to take phone calls about anything but apple today. No, you can call about apple too. (888) 827-5536, Leo port, Mica Sergeant. We will talk tech next. Kim Shaffer, the unbreakable phone angel. She's a fine person who will answer your phones. You like stripes.

Kim Schaffer (00:13:45):
I knew you were gonna say that There have been a lot of stripes lately. Haven't there. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:13:51):
You like 'em no, I like stripes

Kim Schaffer (00:13:52):
Too. You know, I think better than animal prints. I, when somebody, when a woman gets to the age that I am now, they tend

Leo Laporte (00:13:58):
To then, you know, they tend to be an animal print. Is that a Cougar print that you're wearing? Is that what that is? Are you but stripes. Yeah. Stripes are good. Better than polka dots. Yeah. Polkadots make, would make, you know, make people look like circus tent. That's not a good look.

Kim Schaffer (00:14:14):
I guess this

Leo Laporte (00:14:16):
No stripes are good. I like them.

Kim Schaffer (00:14:18):
This makes me look like what are the tents they put on your house when you're having pests? Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:14:22):
Are you having your termites

Kim Schaffer (00:14:24):
Termites?

Leo Laporte (00:14:24):
Are you having, having termites removed?

Kim Schaffer (00:14:26):
I look like a termite. No you

Leo Laporte (00:14:28):
Don't. No, you look great. Who should I start the show with? Who should

Kim Schaffer (00:14:32):
We say? Oh, let's go to so you guys were just talking about the new AC many weren't you? Yes we were. So let's go to Adam who needs help? Configuring his online too. There's two Adams on the line. So just make sure you choose the

Leo Laporte (00:14:44):
Adam in Putnam valley. That Adam,

Kim Schaffer (00:14:46):
That one. All

Leo Laporte (00:14:47):
Right. Thank you, Kim. Hello Adam in Putnam valley, New York. Leo Laporte Mica Sergeant your tech guys who? Hey

Caller 1 (00:14:54):
Leo. Hey Micah. Hello. Hey Leo. Hi Micah. How you doing?

Leo Laporte (00:14:57):
Great. Welcome. It's

Caller 1 (00:14:59):
Good. Thank you. So just so you know, last time I spoke to you was 2013. You helped me pick out a computer for my son who had graduated college. Thank you for

Leo Laporte (00:15:08):
How's he doing nine years later doing

Caller 1 (00:15:10):
Good. He's a mechanical engineer. Nice. yeah, top of his company and he's doing a small company, but he's head of the company. Awesome. And he is doing really well. Thank you.

Leo Laporte (00:15:19):
And by now he has a new sweater, a new sweater. He has a new computer when I was still thinking about sweater and sweater.

Caller 1 (00:15:27):
Yeah. He kept rebuild. He building out the one that we, you re good. Kept building it out, swapping it and nice. Tommy bought a new one and built his own so nice. Yeah. But thank you.

Leo Laporte (00:15:37):
So what can we do for you, Adam?

Caller 1 (00:15:40):
Yeah, so I have a 27 inch iMac 2013 and I believe it's on its last breath. It

Leo Laporte (00:15:48):
Is. It's giving

Caller 1 (00:15:49):
Me the, it's giving me the beach bowl more and

Leo Laporte (00:15:52):
More. Yeah. The one I replaced for Lisa with the Mac studio was in fact, a 2014 IM Mac and, and really my rule of thumb was I couldn't get it to Monterey. It was, it was too old to upgrade to the latest M Mac OS operating system. And that was the, that was it. And she was also yeah, more beach balling, more, more weird behavior. Yeah. You know, I think it's time. Same thing.

Caller 1 (00:16:13):
Yeah. So I, I bought the Mac mini the M one. Perfect. I bought it with only two. I bought it with 2 56 gig, the basic model. I bought it with eight of memory. Here's the thing I'm getting a external hard drive, the Samsung T five. Very nice. Recommend it to me. Yep. I'm gonna use that now. Here's a question here. It is. Do I put the apps on the Mac mini's hard drive and all the rest of the data on the external? Or do you put the whole thing on the external or

Leo Laporte (00:16:49):
I would, I would at least have the operating system on the internal that's the fast this drive you've got. Of course you've got Thunderball although that Samsung, I think is just USB three. Am I right? Or is it Thunderball?

Caller 1 (00:17:01):
No, I think it's USB

Leo Laporte (00:17:02):
Three. Yeah, ITB 3, 3, 3, 3. So that's I think 10 gigabytes per second. So it's pretty fast, but you wouldn't wanna boot off of it. Apps, you don't have a huge amount of choice with Mac. They really wants to put them in the applications folder as long as you have enough. And I think you do with 256 gigs unless you have a million apps, I would put the apps and this is almost always the case with any external drive and any operating system operating system apps, anything you install stays on the internal fast drive, and then it's very easy in the Mac to make your data drive your home D drive, be anywhere including that external disc. So the way you do that is you go into the user's settings and it's an advanced setting. So you'll have to unlock it, you know, give it, give yourself administrator permissions and then in the advance if you I think right, click on your or control command, click on your name, there'll be advanced properties. And that's where you can actually say where your where your home drive lives. So you can then point it to the external drive. You're gonna do it in a weird way, because you're gonna, it's not just a name. You have to find the actual name, but the, once you do it, it can be anywhere. And that's really the easiest way to do it. Leo Laport, the tech guy.

Leo Laporte (00:18:31):
So you're gonna go in. So I don't know if I I'm showing it, but I'm showing it a little later. So here I am in my users and groups and I'm gonna right. Click or command, click on my name, advanced options.

Caller 1 (00:18:45):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (00:18:45):
And then it says home directory and you just actually, you know what, you don't have to worry about it. You just choose it. So as long as that Samsung is attached, this will show up and you can make the home directory be anywhere. That's really, it's nice because apple makes it very easy. What you might wanna do when you first set it up, it's gonna set up the home directory on the internal disk. What you might the then do is copy that directory to the external directory so that everything's in the internal directory is on the external drive and then choose it. Okay. And then that way, nothing weird will be, you won't be missing anything. Right.

Caller 1 (00:19:23):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (00:19:23):
Copy it. If you can, with something like super duper that will copy. I'll be super duper. Yeah. Copy it with super duper. So the, that you have all the hidden files and all that stuff as well.

Caller 1 (00:19:33):
Okay. I already back up to super duper and I back up to time machine.

Leo Laporte (00:19:37):
Good man. Good man. Okay. Careful time machine. If you don't give it an external drive, we'll back it up to the internal drive, which is very scant. You don't have a lot of room, so you don't wanna back it up to the internal drive. You wanna make sure you're backing in a, I think 2 56 is fine. I have five 12 on my laptop, my new MacBook pro 14 inch M one pro laptop. And I don't even use 2 56 of it. If you're, if you're prudent, you'll easily fit all the a and that's for data as well as apps. So it's not a big deal. You should be able to fit it all in there. You don't have a huge number of apps. Right?

Caller 1 (00:20:14):
Right. I have total storage of I'm using 500 out of a terabyte 500 gigabytes of a terabyte. So I bought a two terabyte drive the same. Perfect.

Leo Laporte (00:20:24):
Yeah. Perfect.

Caller 1 (00:20:27):
Now I have another question. You sure. Now raised another question and I, all these problems about the display studio display. I also purchased the studio display. It did not ship yet. I'm still waiting for it, but now I'm hearing these problems and now I'm nervous. I, I, I was nervous to buy it because of the expense of it. And now I'm nervous about the problems we're having.

Leo Laporte (00:20:51):
Well, you're replacing an iMac. So really the whole point of this studio display from Apple's point of view is you buy that and that Mac mini you bought, or the new Mac studio, you're making an iMac, but they're just separate components. And so it, that's why it has the speakers, the camera and the microphone array. It's all the features that were in your iMac. If you decide not to buy it and buy a regular, you can buy a less expensive monitor, which is nice. Cuz you can get all kinds of configurations, but you'll still have to buy speakers and a camera and, and a mic. If the camera doesn't have a good mic, the Bria, one of the reasons I bought the Bria, which was too hundred is it's a very, very, very good camera with very, very good mics. It's good at Ray mics. So in that case, all I had to add to Lisa's monitor was some decent speakers.

Caller 1 (00:21:36):
Right.

Leo Laporte (00:21:37):
So, you know, Mike is keeping his right.

Mikah Sargent (00:21:39):
Absolutely. Yeah. Because it's exactly what I wanted, which was an all in one solution with the speakers and all of that kind of stuff. And I mean, I already knew I was going to have to use, I was pretty certain, I was gonna have to use an external webcam for the stuff that I do because it does require a better camera than you're gonna get from any monitor that has a built-in webcam.

Caller 1 (00:21:59):
Right. Right. Well, and that's just it, I love my iMac display. I get so many compliments from it and it's 2003rd and it still looks amazing. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:22:11):
I'm sitting in front of a two, the, a 5k. It's a great, it's a great display. Yeah. I have to replace this too though. Cuz I can't get to Monterey and that's kind of a, kind of a problem somebody is saying, and it's a good point, Alberta GU guru saying if you move your home folder to the external I've if for any reason that external drive's connected, the Mac is gonna barf when you boot. So it might be better to keep the home drive where it is and just put your documents and your other stuff. You could put those anywhere. You want put those in the external drive and then keep a small home drive internally. That's probably he's right. That's probably the most reliable way to operate.

Caller 1 (00:22:50):
Okay. Okay. Will I be able to do that from the setup stick? Yeah. Cause I don't have enough room to put it all on the, and then drag it. I don't have the room to do that. Ah,

Leo Laporte (00:23:02):
Well don't in that case I gotta run cause I gotta, we gotta get ready for Scott. Okay. I would say in that case cop don't do the set up your Mac thing. Copy it over to the external drive. Go from there. It's time to get hip. Look at this guy. He's getting hipper and hipper Scott Wilkinson home theater guru. I like your quilt behind you. Now that looks, thank

Scott Wilkinson (00:23:30):
You. My grandma

Leo Laporte (00:23:31):
Made that. Aw.

Mikah Sargent (00:23:32):
Yeah. I, I thought I recognized a nice granny granny square

Leo Laporte (00:23:37):
Classic. That's a granny square. Isn't it? Lots

Scott Wilkinson (00:23:39):
Of different. Yeah. It's actually I think it's crochet. It's not a quilt. It's

Mikah Sargent (00:23:43):
Yep. Crochet granny squares. And then you combine them together to make a

Leo Laporte (00:23:46):
Blanket out of it. Micah knows all about this. I

Mikah Sargent (00:23:49):
Don't.

Leo Laporte (00:23:50):
Don't ask why he's under 30, but he's a grandma. I

Scott Wilkinson (00:23:53):
Indeed

Mikah Sargent (00:23:54):
Just call me granny. Micah. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:23:56):
This granny Micah. All right.

Leo Laporte (00:23:58):
Scott joins us every week to talk about home theater, big screen TVs around sound. He writes a tech hive.com. What's the latest

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:08):
Well I'm, I've been getting a number of listener questions by email, which is great. Good. And, and those who want to write to me, please do it's Scott twi.tv. Very easy. And I will answer as best I can. Twitter

Leo Laporte (00:24:25):
TV. I should explain. Cause people are going, why is that so easy? Oh, oh, oh. Twit is our, that's not that easy. Twit is our podcast network. This weekend tech and it's website is twi.tv and we get email@twi.tv. So yes, you can write toScott@twi.tv.

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:39):
Exactly.

Leo Laporte (00:24:40):
Yes. T I t.tv.

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:44):
So the perennial of course is what TV should I get?

Leo Laporte (00:24:48):
Yes.

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:50):
Yes.

Leo Laporte (00:24:50):
Has that changed much in the last few years?

Scott Wilkinson (00:24:53):
No, the, I mean in terms of the question, no, but everybody,

Leo Laporte (00:24:57):
No. In terms of the answer, I don't care. No, no people have been asking that question since I love Lucy, but that's right. The answer that's changed since then, has it? It has the last few years is a question.

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:07):
Yes. I would say so TVs have, have gotten better and cheaper by a long shot.

Leo Laporte (00:25:14):
Yeah. That's nice. Isn't it?

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:15):
Which is really nice. Yeah. So James E asks what's the best TV under a thousand dollars, 50 inches or more now a thousand dollars, you know? I mean, do you remember the old plasma, the original 42 inch Fujitsu, plasma

Leo Laporte (00:25:32):
TV, $10,000,

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:35):
$10,000.

Leo Laporte (00:25:36):
I don't even remember it. We bought some At tech TV. I didn't pay it. Yeah. Yeah. Paul Allen, the Microsoft billionaire paid it so he could afford it.

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:44):
He could afford it. That

Leo Laporte (00:25:44):
Those things got burned like in five minutes, but by the way, they were terrible. Oh man.

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:48):
Oh man. I

Leo Laporte (00:25:49):
Felt so bad. Kidding. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:25:51):
Yeah. Yeah. Well these days you can get a really good TV, a lot larger than that. 42 feature for a 10th, the cost, a thousand bucks.

Leo Laporte (00:26:02):
Who did I just see that's selling, like I think that the QD EDS Sam's son's prices and the QD EDDs are very good. Did you notice

Scott Wilkinson (00:26:11):
That, you know what? I haven't noticed that no, I have to go look that up. The QD OED, which is their brand new quantum dot EDD, which they announced at CES this year for the first time,

Leo Laporte (00:26:22):
But not with prices at the time.

Scott Wilkinson (00:26:24):
No, no. And I haven't actually seen the prices you have. I have to

Leo Laporte (00:26:27):
Go what's up. They have a low end and a high end

Scott Wilkinson (00:26:30):
Of course.

Leo Laporte (00:26:31):
But the low end say a 55 inch is 1500 bucks. I mean, it's still a little bit above our, our viewers,

Scott Wilkinson (00:26:39):
Our, our target target. Exactly. But still 1500

Leo Laporte (00:26:42):
Bucks for QOLA. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:26:44):
Yeah. Wow. Well, that's not bad. I was gonna tell James I, and I told him in, in the email that if you can stretch a little bit to $1,300, the LG 55 inch C one OED would be my strong recommended

Leo Laporte (00:27:03):
C1. LG, I have this older LG, you

Scott Wilkinson (00:27:06):
Haven't.

Leo Laporte (00:27:06):
I love it is aged beautifully. It still looks gorgeous. That's still looks, Great's probably seven years old now.

Scott Wilkinson (00:27:13):
Yeah. I remember calibrating it when I went. Thank you.

Scott Wilkinson (00:27:18):
Anyway, so yeah, 1300 bucks for the C1, 55 inch C one OED strong recommendation. Now, if you have to stay under a thousand dollars, then there are, are several choices. And the two companies that I recommend looking at are TCL and high senses, both of which are Chinese companies, huge Chinese companies. And they're both TCL has made in roads into the us market for quite a few years. Now, high sense is starting to more and more. And we've got two that I would recommend from TCL, both 55 inches. The R 6 35 is a Roku based TV for 950 bucks. And the R six 40, which is a Google TV based smart TV is seven 50. Now I have no idea why there's a $200 difference between these two TVs. My, my guess is that Roku costs more to license. They

Leo Laporte (00:28:19):
Must be. Yeah,

Scott Wilkinson (00:28:20):
They, it must be that

Leo Laporte (00:28:21):
And they may need a better processor. You know? I mean, if you really, really want it to be a Roku, it should have a better processor. The most smart TVs come with.

Scott Wilkinson (00:28:28):
Yeah, that's true. And now as you and I have always said get a external box to do your smart TV functions. It's it's gonna work better. It's gonna be more upgradeable. It's not very

Leo Laporte (00:28:41):
Expensive if it's a Roku inside, that might be the exception to that. I mean, I still, I agree. Yeah. It's better than the, I prefer the Roku. Yeah. The, the, the software that the companies write Samsung Sony LG is terrible. Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah. So it's better to use the Roku software and if it's internal, as long as they give enough processing.

Scott Wilkinson (00:29:04):
Yeah, yeah. That, and that you're right. That may very well be, well, there are two high senses I wanted to quickly recommend as well, a 55 inch U eight G, which is seven 50. These are both Android TV, smart TV platforms, by the way. And you can get a 65 inch U eight G, which is an Android for nine 50. So you under your a thousand dollars budget, you could actually get a 65 inch TV, even better ings the TV rating review site, R T I N g.com. Yeah. S yeah. Says that

Leo Laporte (00:29:37):
Ratings without the, a

Scott Wilkinson (00:29:39):
Ratings

Leo Laporte (00:29:40):
Without the, without the vowels or no, tings has a eye,

Scott Wilkinson (00:29:43):
Has an eye

Leo Laporte (00:29:44):
In ratings without the a

Scott Wilkinson (00:29:45):
Anyway they say the high sense U eight G has better local diming than the TCL. So that's, that's a pretty strong recommendation if you're okay with the Android smart TV interface, like you, I say Roku is the best smart TV interface.

Leo Laporte (00:30:05):
Yeah. By the way this display that Micah bought, that was another complaint. Not only does it not have HDR, does it have local diming? So it's really what, Yeah. For 1500 bucks,

Scott Wilkinson (00:30:16):
Oh man, that's

Mikah Sargent (00:30:17):
Not have local diming.

Leo Laporte (00:30:18):
Does what does that Mac

Mikah Sargent (00:30:20):
Imac

Leo Laporte (00:30:20):
Have local? No, no, no, no. They didn't have local diming back of the day. I'm thinking the LG that I bought the $600 LG 4k display that I bought probably does. Cuz it's HDR. 

Scott Wilkinson (00:30:34):
If it, if it's HDR, then it probably does. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:30:36):
And apple supports HDR. Interesting. Sure. Yeah, sure. So, but their monitor doesn't

Scott Wilkinson (00:30:41):
In that. Yeah. That makes no sense. Well, don't,

Leo Laporte (00:30:45):
It's a little bit of an a, you know, the story is that they designed it. This is what mark Garman told us at Mac brick wheel designed it two years ago. And that maybe is a little telling that it's a little bit of an older display technology perhaps.

Scott Wilkinson (00:30:57):
Yeah. Why didn't they update it?

Leo Laporte (00:30:59):
Yeah. And you know, weird it, 60 hurts. Not faster. There are a lot of,

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:04):
But not 120 Hertz. Wow.

Leo Laporte (00:31:07):
Your outrage is showing.

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:08):
I, my outrage is showing. I mean, if you're, if you're playing games on this thing and I don't realize Mac is not, you know, the gaming

Leo Laporte (00:31:15):
Platform. No, but they should have it.

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:16):
Yeah. They should have 120 Hertz and they should have variable refresh rate. Yeah. Which they probably don't they

Leo Laporte (00:31:22):
Not have in the operating system. That may be an, I don't know. But this display definitely doesn't so yes. It's not, it's not a very high end display.

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:30):
No. And, but at a high end price. Good God.

Leo Laporte (00:31:33):
Well, it is apple after all Pay the logo. My friend,

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:39):
I guess

Leo Laporte (00:31:39):
Don't make, don't make Micah feel bad. He bought

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:42):
Feel bad. No, no, no. I don't

Leo Laporte (00:31:44):
Wait minute. You didn't buy it. I bought it. Nevermind. Don't make me feel

Scott Wilkinson (00:31:49):
Good. I, I have to say, I like the, the idea of all in one. Micah mentioned that earlier, the

Mikah Sargent (00:31:54):
All in one in the 5k display for me, 5k. Cause I've been using two old school. Dell monitors is my external monitors that are not that retina.

Leo Laporte (00:32:05):
So

Mikah Sargent (00:32:05):
All of that coming together.

Leo Laporte (00:32:06):
That's a good point. I mean, the display I'm using is a 4k, not a 5k

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:10):
Anyway. And the, there you go. Anyway, there

Leo Laporte (00:32:16):
You go.

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:16):
Question. My question is to, to, to Micah is the color space, but we'll have to talk about that in another point. It's

Leo Laporte (00:32:21):
P three. It is

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:22):
P three. Oh, okay. That's that's pretty good.

Leo Laporte (00:32:24):
Wilkinson home theater geek. Find him@techive.com in here every week. Hey it rhymes

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:37):
Air near, near, near, near song.

Leo Laporte (00:32:43):
You have

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:45):
Tube and throat singer. Yes.

Leo Laporte (00:32:46):
One. I am. You have a bright halo below you. Is there a light close to your camera or something?

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:55):
Well, no. See that. Hey,

Leo Laporte (00:32:57):
Look at your pictures.

Scott Wilkinson (00:32:58):
Hang on a second. Hang on.

Leo Laporte (00:32:59):
Maybe it's just over brightened. I don't

Mikah Sargent (00:33:01):
Know. It's just the angelic radiance.

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:04):
I I've been playing with my settings. I, I found a way to, to get rid of the sparkly. Well,

Leo Laporte (00:33:11):
You see, you see how bright it is, like in the lower, in the lower left.

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't quite understand that to tell you the truth must be

Mikah Sargent (00:33:18):
Local dimming on the,

Leo Laporte (00:33:20):
To be over brightened. You know, often I see this, if there's kind of a light near the lens, it's, it's flaring up into it. But you know, now that I look at it, I think you've over brightened. It. That's

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:31):
All. Yeah. That's what I I'm thinking too. So I am going to go to preferences.

Leo Laporte (00:33:36):
It's very crisp. I mean, which, what, what camera are you using? I forgot it's

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:39):
A Logitech 9 29 20.

Leo Laporte (00:33:41):
Yeah. It's a good camera.

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:42):
Yeah, it's a good camera. Okay. So I'm just gonna go.

Leo Laporte (00:33:45):
I think you over you overplayed your hands. I

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:47):
Over brightened it. All right. I can easily change that. I can darken down the brightness, but you see that's 

Mikah Sargent (00:33:55):
That's not right either.

Scott Wilkinson (00:33:56):
That's not right either. I'm I've

Mikah Sargent (00:33:58):
Still doing backlight comp station. Even if it

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:02):
Shouldn't be. Yeah. Hang on a second. I do have a, just for low light.

Leo Laporte (00:34:06):
Turn that off.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:07):
Turn that off. Boom.

Leo Laporte (00:34:09):
Oh, there you go. Now,

Mikah Sargent (00:34:10):
Now reset like the brightness.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:12):
Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:34:13):
Wow. That's that's fixed it. That was zoom doing that.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:17):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (00:34:18):
Yeah. And yeah, there you go. That's much more

Mikah Sargent (00:34:19):
Now you look more,

Leo Laporte (00:34:20):
Not normal, right?

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:21):
Right. That's

Leo Laporte (00:34:22):
Too bright. One step down. Well,

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:24):
One step down. Okay. Two bright one step down. I can also increase

Leo Laporte (00:34:28):
Actually. That looks really good. I go full screen. That's really good. Don't touch anything.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:34):
Ooh. Unless

Leo Laporte (00:34:35):
You have a really good tan cuz, but other than that, you look great.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:39):
I

Leo Laporte (00:34:39):
Don't have a, there's a nice flare around your cube up in the over your left shoulder and that's yeah. Yeah. That's perfect.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:46):
You like that? Okay. Good. I

Leo Laporte (00:34:47):
Love it.

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:49):
Love it. Excellent. I love it. Excellent.

Leo Laporte (00:34:52):
You don't look like the angels are coming to get you now

Scott Wilkinson (00:34:56):
Too. Well, I really wanted to get rid of that. That flickering effect on my clock and I did that by increas the exposure time.

Leo Laporte (00:35:03):
Yeah. Well I don't see any flickering. I see everything looks good. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:07):
Yeah. Everything looks good. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:35:09):
Your globe is

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:10):
Rob lamp.

Leo Laporte (00:35:11):
Your lava lamp is lamping.

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:14):
My googly eye clock so far. No one has noticed that yet.

Leo Laporte (00:35:19):
Oh, is those are those googly eyes?

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:21):
Those they're googly eyes and one of them is the hour and one of them is the minutes. Oh wow. And they slowly rotate, rotate. They're

Leo Laporte (00:35:29):
Too bright to see the, the definition and the goly eyes. So,

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:32):
Oh, I

Leo Laporte (00:35:32):
Can't see the eyeballs, but that's awesome. Now that I know. Cool. Yeah. Now that I know.

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:40):
Oh good. Thank you guys for helping me with my 

Leo Laporte (00:35:44):
I like the book now. I love it. Especially with grandma grandma's quilt.

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:50):
Grandma's crochet. Yes, indeed.

Leo Laporte (00:35:53):
Mike is a big crochet.

Scott Wilkinson (00:35:55):
Are you really? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:35:56):
Did you see this? He didn't this, he did this. He did a little Linux penguin for me. Wow. With a real head. That's so CRO and everything. Wow. He's very talented.

Mikah Sargent (00:36:05):
Thanks. I that's great. A new skill whenever the pandemic kicked off and I took up knitting and crocheting and I really like crocheting even more than kniting. Oh,

Scott Wilkinson (00:36:17):
Wow. Then you, then you know all about that.

Mikah Sargent (00:36:19):
I do. Yeah. It's

Leo Laporte (00:36:20):
Funny. I sitting around in my boxers watching TV And it was, it worked well. I thought,

Scott Wilkinson (00:36:27):
Well, I'm sure you got really good

Leo Laporte (00:36:29):
At it. I do. I'm pro excellent. Scott. You wanna stick around from the top of the sure. Okay. Sure.

Scott Wilkinson (00:36:35):
Happy to. Thank you,

Leo Laporte (00:36:36):
Sir. Leo. Leport the tech guy, 88 88. Ask Leo. My Sergeant, the tech guy too is here as well. Yes. Two D on the line from cold water, Michigan. Jim. Hi Jim.

Caller 2 (00:36:52):
Yes, I'm here. Hello

Leo Laporte (00:36:53):
Jim.

Caller 2 (00:36:55):
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my call, Leo and good afternoon to Mike.

Leo Laporte (00:36:59):
Hello? Yes.

Caller 2 (00:37:02):
Well, I am first of all, I'm semi technology challenged. Okay. Even, even though I'm WV zero SS. Oh,

Leo Laporte (00:37:10):
Well, you know, if you're an amateur radio operator, you you're Mr. Analog. Anyway,

Caller 2 (00:37:14):
I should know better. Yeah. I I'm in argument it's with my outlook at work.

Leo Laporte (00:37:20):
Oh, everybody is. That's not. Yeah. That's that's just normal. What's going on?

Caller 2 (00:37:25):
Well, I'm running windows 10. I got outlook. It says PWA, whatever that means.

Leo Laporte (00:37:31):
That's a progressive web app. So, oh, this is, this gets really complicated. So outlook can be a number of things. And this is my Microsoft's fault. To be honest, they use they've. They use the word outlook for a lot of different things. There's outlook.com, right. Which is the website. And that can be a progressive web app, which means if you're in an appropriate browser Chrome primarily edge, I guess will do it as well. Microsoft's browser. You can download the bits and pieces from the website and run it as if it's a local app in its own window.

Caller 2 (00:38:07):
Got it. 

Leo Laporte (00:38:08):
It still, you still will need to be online to get mail and things like that, but it does, it does have some offline capabilities as well. So PWA is just a way of doing the website on your desktop.

Caller 2 (00:38:19):
Okay. Then

Leo Laporte (00:38:20):
There's the other outlooks, which are the outlook that comes with Microsoft office. There's I mean, they have a million names and get ready because project Monarch is coming along, which is gonna mess everything up as we, that we figured out. Oh

Caller 2 (00:38:32):
Yeah. I'm so happy.

Leo Laporte (00:38:33):
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Microsoft.

Caller 2 (00:38:36):
So at work when I set up an out of office, I'm going on vacation in a couple weeks. I want to set up the out of office notice. Yeah. And I can't find anywhere in the rules. What happens is I get notifications from my wholesale arm and sales rep. Yeah. And I'll get a notice. That's one of those do not respond to this email. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:38:56):
Yeah. And it'll respond to it, which

Caller 2 (00:38:58):
Sets up a death spiral endlessly. Oh,

Leo Laporte (00:39:00):
You're kidding. Cuz then it says, no, no. I told you do not respond. And then you respond again. It says, I told you, wow,

Caller 2 (00:39:08):
Last time my internet provider cut us off at a thousand messages, which happened, oh

Leo Laporte (00:39:13):
My God, it went back and forth a thousand and times. So that's a dumb out of office. Most out of offices a Gmail included will not respond and meet for this. Very reason will not respond to a response from the out of office will only, you can in fact, look for a setting that says only send it once a week or that kind of thing. You can also so it's under, it's not a, it's not a mail rule it's under automatic replies,

Caller 2 (00:39:40):
Automatic replies. Okay.

Leo Laporte (00:39:42):
So it's in their settings mail, automatic replies. You could turn 'em on. You can say only set it during a certain time period. Actually wait a minute. You want the, let me see time. Doesn't matter so much for out of office. So you won't worry about that. What I'm looking for is a way to say, do not respond to somebody, not in my contacts.

Caller 2 (00:40:10):
I used to have that in former email program, but I don't see,

Leo Laporte (00:40:14):
You can send replies outside your organiz. Yeah. It looks like they don't, you know, this is the other problem. Of course, Microsoft wants to sell you a product. Sure. So the free product is maybe not gonna have as many features as the outlook application. You might wanna, if you really wanna do this, you might need to download, go to the Microsoft store and download outlook from the store. And I bet you, it will, it's still free. It will probably have better choices here. This is very scant.

Caller 2 (00:40:54):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (00:40:55):
This is not, but that's where you're supposed to do it. Isn't a automatic replies and they made it more general than just vacation in other words. But it's still the same idea. It's a, it's a reply that will go automatically out saying I'm look, I'm not gonna respond right away. Automatic replies. Yeah. There's no, wait a minute. I'm looking at their help thing. Automatic replies. We sent once to each sender once. So it should not respond to anything else. If it's coming from the same address, it shouldn't give you this death spiral did it.

Caller 2 (00:41:26):
I well, it did the last time. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:41:28):
That's

Caller 2 (00:41:29):
They cut off my 

Leo Laporte (00:41:31):
You know what, if you did it with a rule, okay. That's why you did it with a rule. Don't do it with a rule. That's what it is. Do it with a rule. Yeah. That's why now I understand automatic replies are designed to not reply to the reply. Great saying I told you not to respond this mail. Very good. Yeah. It only does it once. That's

Caller 2 (00:41:52):
And may I ask a one other questions? Yes,

Leo Laporte (00:41:53):
Please.

Caller 2 (00:41:54):
I don't see any way to tell this outlook to remove the original email from a response.

Leo Laporte (00:42:01):
Remove the original email. Oh, when you like re reply and then underneath it puts the original,

Caller 2 (00:42:08):
Correct?

Leo Laporte (00:42:09):
Yeah. There's a setting in there for that. I can't,

Caller 2 (00:42:11):
I sure can't find it.

Leo Laporte (00:42:13):
And again, this might be a case because it's the free web mail version of this that oh yeah. That's a feature they don't have, but they should. Every email package I've ever used gives you a choice. Look under comp compose, the composed settings. It'll give you a choice of when you are replying copying, there should be three choices. Copy nothing. Copy the text that selected or copied the entire previous message.

Caller 2 (00:42:36):
Yeah. That's what I'm familiar with. And I, I don't see it, but I'll try downloading from the store and see if maybe, maybe

Leo Laporte (00:42:41):
The store will have more capabilities, but, but look in the composed mess menu I don't have in front of me, otherwise I would go through it, but I'm, there's gotta be a way to say how much of the previous message you would include. I maybe, you know, they may have changed the terminology, you know, you're used to real mail. This is, this is pseudo real mail. Gotcha. So yeah. Yeah. Get the, get the, get the outlook app. It might work a little bit better.

Caller 2 (00:43:07):
I'll do that Leo. Yeah. And a question what's that metallic cube on the top of your desk with, oh,

Leo Laporte (00:43:12):
See if you're a, a machinist, you would know this is a what do they call it? A five by three by six cube machinists, make these, they just take, this is a brass brick and they, and they and they put holes in it, but they're very precise. So it can be used just as a decoration or a paper weight, cuz it's fairly heavy, but it also can be used. It's a 3, 2, 1 block. That's what it's called. Thank you. 3, 2, 1 block. So if you Google 3, 2, 1 block, you could probably find one. I'm not a machinist. So I don't, you know, have any real use for it. But I think it's cool. It is a, it is an example of precision machining. How about that?

Caller 2 (00:43:55):
Very nice.

Leo Laporte (00:43:57):
You didn't ask me about my crochet Linux penguin. That's for Micah started.

Caller 2 (00:44:02):
I like the penguin better.

Leo Laporte (00:44:04):
It's cushy and cute. Hey, thank you. Actually, the chat room just gave me a link to how to control the original message in outlook. Click the file tab, click options, click mail under replies and forwards four. When replying the message or when forwarding message you'll see include the original message. Default include an indent, the original message prefix each line of the original message. Attach original message or do not include original message. Oh, look at all those. This option is not available when forwarding messages, but of course there's no, you have to include the message if you're gonna forward it. So that makes sense. They don't have the one feature that a lot of standalone packages have, which is just include the selected text. I often turn that on. Then I control how much of the previous message gets sent along. Got it. Great. Thanks whoever that was.

Leo Laporte (00:44:56):
Yes, that was of course scooter X probably. I don't know why. Thanks scooter X. Yes. He's very good. He is. No, it was Sophia. Thank you. Sophia. Give credit where credit is due and I will also put a link just for you. Amazon's hardened, precision machinist 3, 2, 1 blocks 1, 2, 3 blocks. 23 holes. Oh, I see. I was counting the holes. It's one inch by two inches by three inches. Ah, that's the other thing you could use this as a very good ruler. A very heavy, very good ruler. I just like it. Cause, and it's cuz it's it's brass and it's just, it feels good. They, the ones you're selling on Amazon look like they're steel, which means they're a little less expensive. I don't know. Maybe I'm just, you know, pretend machinist Leo Laporte Mica Sergeant your tech guys, more of your calls coming up.

Mikah Sargent (00:45:53):
Everybody just says you can use them for many different things, many different things, which you could use it for.

Leo Laporte (00:45:58):
You could use it for a pen holder. Can you tell us not a good pen holder, but a pen holder. You could use it. I don't know a paperweight. I guess it's it's a really good paperweight. I just like it. Cuz in a cool little

Mikah Sargent (00:46:10):
Art works.

Leo Laporte (00:46:10):
It's technology is why I like it. Everything in here has a technology hook, right? Including Santa Claus himself. Mr. Scott Wilkinson. I love it. When I say that he gives a ho, ho, ho. I know it's so indeed, indeed. All yours for the next eight minutes, Scott, I thank you so much. So much. There are 2, 4, 6 blocks, but I have a 1, 2, 3 block. Oh 1, 2, 3 block. That's kind of cool. I, I might have to get one of those. Andy was Andy and ACO told me about these, but you, I also have little tiny origami boxes next to him. So I have lots of I'm one of those guys. I'm I probably a hoarder when I grow up. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (00:46:56):
I'm afraid I'm close to that now. Well moving helps. You have to get rid of it. Oh man. I got rid of probably 30% of all my stuff. When I move. That's a good feeling. Isn't it endless? It's hard when you're doing it, but once you're done, it's great. It's it feels great. That's right. And we're fine. We've got our living room set up and everything's starting to gel here in the new house. I'm so glad. So happy about that. So yeah. Hey Micah, next time you come down to Santa Cruz, let me know. He says, yes,

Scott Wilkinson (00:47:31):
He's actually out getting coffee, but I'll I'll call. Oh good. Well you should go get some coffee too. I'll give him the word you take over. Thank you very much. Here we go. So hello everybody. So happy to see you all on this slightly rainy Saturday here in Santa Cruz. Anyway Gumby is asking for an under $600 TV, 42 to 50 inch that I don't want to be smart. What are my options? I'm afraid there probably aren't any it's just, it's just, there are no dumb TVs anymore. They're all smart. What can I tell you? And as I, as I said, I think on the on the show itself, the brand I would look at is TCL or high senses. TCL has Roku TVs. I bought, I actually bought, when we moved into this house before we had any of our regular stuff here, I bought a TCL 40 inch Roku TV.

Scott Wilkinson (00:48:33):
I think it was a series four just to have a, an extra little TV at best buy $200, 200 bucks for a 40 inch TV with Roku. And you know, because you can't get a dumb TV, there's no really know such thing as a, as a TV, without smarts, without online streaming apps. Roku's the one to get now, as we'd mentioned, as I mentioned on the show it, it looks like that may be more expensive, but still a 40 inch TV for 200 bucks. I'm mean, geez, that's, that's really something, I guess the, I guess the only way to get a dumb TV is not to buy a TV at all, but to buy a computer monitor and those tend to be more expensive. We were talking about this new apple monitor, 1500 bucks. I don't know what size it is.

Scott Wilkinson (00:49:28):
Somebody will tell me. Anyway, so I would look at TCL the 55 inches, I said the Roku was nine 50 and you wanna be under 600. So that means probably going to the four series, which I don't think has local dimming. But you know, for that kind of money you could save a lot on, on getting this 40 and you want a 42 to 50 and 40. Two's just slightly under that. So, you know I would look at, at TCL for sure, Adam 24 says, what kind of a home theater system did you have back in the eighties?

Scott Wilkinson (00:50:16):
Back in the eighties, I had a, I believe it was a 32 inch C R T TV, a Panasonic that was, must have weighed 300 pounds. And it was 32 inches, but that was the eighties. And I think I was playing it through a stereo receiver. As I recall, I took the audio out analog audio out out and put it in a Yamaha stereo receiver. And that was my sound system. So it wasn't surround, it wasn't a flat panel. It was very small, but in the eighties, that's what it was. Yes, tech Dino, congratulations on exactly. And Phoenix warp one of course, you know what that means? Now you can buy 30% more new stuff.

Scott Wilkinson (00:51:15):
I hope not. I'm, I'm still dedicated. And this may change, you know, it's hard to say, but I am dedicated not to acquire a bunch of new stuff. Once we leave the rental and actually have our own house here in Santa Cruz, we may need to buy some new furniture. That's hard to say, but in terms of stuff, I'm hoping not. I got rid of, I got rid of a bunch of videotapes and CDs, not C, not recordable, CDs things I had recorded on them. And I found a great service called green disc which takes your, all your techno trash. I really wanna recycle stuff as much as I can. And my electronics recycling and Burbank would take equipment and stuff, but they wouldn't take media. And so, but tech green disc will and they'll take cables and ink cartridges.

Scott Wilkinson (00:52:21):
And I mean, I recycled the ink cartridges at staples or office backs. But, but there's, it's very difficult to find out where to recycle videotapes and recordable CDs. I had boxes of CDs that were press kits from CES CD, all the trade shows I used to go to in the day, back in the day, they gave you a CD as a press kit, and I had boxes of them and I, and I wanted to get rid of them in a responsible way. And I found this company, green disk, you buy, you can do it a couple ways, but basically you pay them for a box to fill up with stuff, or you can fill up your own box with stuff and you pay them and you ship it to 'em and they presumably hopefully dispose of it, recycle it in some sort of responsible way.

Scott Wilkinson (00:53:14):
So that, that was an important thing that I got got rid of a lot of stuff that way. I also made innumerable trips to the thrift store and I also sold a bunch of CDs and DVDs stuff. I was never gonna watch again to a record store around the corner from my house in Burbank. And that, that was really great. I made some, some good money on that. Redacted says I looked and sound great. Thank you very much. I I've been, you know, working to set this up. I wanna make sure it's good. Doug M yeah, laser disc laser disc library. I didn't have that many laser discs. Oh, grandam. My, any thoughts on the sound United sale? Yeah. I just saw that at recently. I don't know what it means. I hope my friends who work there still have jobs.

Scott Wilkinson (00:54:12):
I, I need to call them actually and and find out what's going on. But yeah, that's, that could be, that could, could be a big change or could be. I, I, I forget now I I'd have to look at back up a the I forget they, they sold to a Swiss company I've forgotten now, but that's Denon and Moran and BMW, I think. No, maybe not BMW. I've forgotten all who's under the sound United umbrella, but a lot of companies te Dino. Yes, I have visited my Alma mater. It's right up the street from my house. I took my wife on a tour so she could see where I went to college. FAPA has 90 zones for local dimming versus 360 for local dimming. Does this affect how dark the black colors are? Yes, it does. In a way more to the point it affects how much haloing there is around a bright, small object on a dark background though, the more, the better there

Leo Laporte (00:55:21):
Always the more, the

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:23):
Always the more, the better.

Leo Laporte (00:55:25):
Thank you Mr. Scott.

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:27):
My

Leo Laporte (00:55:27):
Pleasure like says he wants to come visit you on Santa Cruz,

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:30):
Please do. All right. Welcome anytime.

Mikah Sargent (00:55:33):
Yes. Show me things outside of the boardwalk.

Leo Laporte (00:55:35):
Yes. The other he's only seen the boardwalk.

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:37):
Oh man. There's so much more.

Leo Laporte (00:55:38):
That's what I just told him. Yeah.

Scott Wilkinson (00:55:39):
Gotta take you to gal's bakery, man. Oh,

Leo Laporte (00:55:42):
Gal's all right. Thanks Scott. Hey, Hey. Hey. How are you today? Leo? LePort here. The tech guy mic, a Sergeant tech guy two. We are answering your questions at 88 88. Ask Leo, trying not to only gush about our apple devices. Not

Mikah Sargent (00:56:04):
A lot of gushing on this studio displayed part, except for me. I'm very you about,

Leo Laporte (00:56:08):
Well, yeah, and I don't wanna sound too negative either because I there're great devices and you know, the Mac studio is fantastic. It's quiet. It's efficient. We'll see. It's not a Mac mini. I think that's the thing to really make it clear. It's the same footprint, but it's taller more than twice as tall. It really is like a, I wouldn't call it a Mac mini and they don't notice it's really a Mac pro junior. Absolutely a Mac pro my pro junior. There we go. Eighty eight, eighty eight ley on the phone number. When you hear us talk about things like the link that we we talked about with our last caller about getting outlook to do replies and so forth, that will all end up in the show notes. Thanks to Mica at tech guy labs.com links. A transcript full transcript of the show will be there with time codes, plus audio and video from the show. So that site should have a, everything you need to figure out what it is that we said that made you so excited way back when eighty eight eighty eight, ask Leo the phone number on we go with the show and our next caller is Paul from San Fernando valley, California. Hi Paul.

Caller 3 (00:57:21):
Hi Leo. How are you? Wonderful,

Leo Laporte (00:57:22):
Welcome. They for hanging on.

Caller 3 (00:57:25):
Yeah. I just wanted to ran about Microsoft. I bought a description to 365 office through costco.com for price and longer term.

Leo Laporte (00:57:37):
Oh, you're kidding. Costco charged you more than if you just bought it online.

Caller 3 (00:57:42):
Yeah. From Microsoft. Yeah. 15 months for 89 99.

Leo Laporte (00:57:47):
Well, no, that's good. Actually that's three months extra, isn't it?

Caller 3 (00:57:51):
Yep. For $10 less. Yeah. And so, so I did that twice. I came up from my renewal this year and I did the same thing. I got the product key from costco.com and it wouldn't activate. Oh Yeah. Repeatedly. I called the concierge. They couldn't help. They couldn't help. You know, they sent me another product key still. No. Good. And I kept getting this. Yeah. Kept getting this pop up five, you know, five buy from us like, you know, and so I had all my homemade forms on there. The time was running out and then I ran out of time and I had to end up getting it from Microsoft.

Leo Laporte (00:58:34):
Oh yeah.

Caller 3 (00:58:36):
Yeah. And,

Leo Laporte (00:58:37):
But Costco will give you your money back. Right. I mean, that's one reason to buy something at Costco.

Caller 3 (00:58:42):
Yes they did. Yeah. And so 

Leo Laporte (00:58:46):
But you did pay, you pay a little bit more. That's weird. I mean, I, would've not just called Costco. I would've called Microsoft. You

Caller 3 (00:58:54):
Can't get through, they gave me the number you can't get through to anybody doesn't

Leo Laporte (00:58:59):
Work. Nobody answered.

Caller 3 (00:59:03):
They tell you to go to support.

Leo Laporte (00:59:06):
Yeah.

Caller 3 (00:59:07):
You know, so they don't really answer the phone. Oh. It's send to the website. Okay. So you can't even talk to anybody. And so you go there, they give you a 69 99 option for one use, right. Or 99, 99 for five. Right. And so I just got the one, but then that didn't work sending you the thing to renew take the 99 99. I ended up having to do that. And so then it works, but I just wanted to ran to Microsoft that if you guys wanna break your contract with Costco, break it,

Leo Laporte (00:59:47):
I would want, I would look at the fine print, make sure it's not, Costco may be selling. And I've got, every time I get a PC, I will get this coupon for first time subscribers, like a time deal. And I'm wondering if that's what Costco's selling. It would say it somewhere obviously, but it may not say it in big lettuces. And if that's what Costco's selling well, yeah, that would make sense. You could, in fact, it's surprising you could renew it once. Otherwise that's you're right. It's they sh somebody there's a disconnect somewhere. Some

Mikah Sargent (01:00:22):
I res found it in the chat and I'm not seeing any notice that it Costco.

Leo Laporte (01:00:28):
Oh, it's the family 15 month subscription, 12 versus 12 months, three months free for up to six people. So Costco's selling it online and it even

Mikah Sargent (01:00:39):
Still,

Leo Laporte (01:00:39):
Yeah, even still. Yeah. I mean I don't know who your beef is at this point with it's. Is it Costco for selling something that doesn't work or is it, I mean, at least they give you your money back, but, or is it Microsoft? There is a mic. I mean, I can give you the Microsoft number if you want to yell at em.

Caller 3 (01:00:57):
Well, no, I have it, but I have several. Yeah. But they send you two support.

Leo Laporte (01:01:05):
Oh, they won't, they won't help you online. Oh, okay. They won't help you on the phone. I see.

Caller 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah. And it's still under license. They're still under contract with Costco.

Leo Laporte (01:01:19):
Yeah. So then maybe it is Costco's fault. I, I, you know, it's Costco, so I, I'm not, they're not doing what some much more shady operators would do for instance, it's not at all unusual to separate those license cards from the new PC. Some shady retailers, not Costco might do that and sell it separately. And it doesn't work because somebody else already activated it, that kind of thing. I don't know why Costco's selling something that that doesn't work. And I don't know who to blame. I don't think it's Microsoft. I think it's Costco, but maybe those are maybe they were out of date. I don't know. We have the link, costco.com. They're selling it. I'm I'm looking at it right now. 

Mikah Sargent (01:02:09):
I just find it bizarre that Microsoft sent sent you a new code and that code also didn't work. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:02:15):
That makes Microsoft 365 personal 12 month subscription. Edelivery 58 99 product co load delivered by email. Now this is the one person subscription. So let me see he's he got the family, the family plan. But yeah, they're selling it. They, you don't even have to go to Costco to get it. In fact, I don't even know if you have to have a Costco membership to get it. Microsoft 365 family, 15 month subscription. Edelivery 89 99 for use on multiple PCs, max tablets phones. So you should be able to activate it on a total of I think six devices limit five per member. Maybe he bought too many. Make sure you double check your email address when you place your order. If you're giving this as a gift, you'll need to make sure the email address associated with the shipping address has been entered and it's accurate.

Leo Laporte (01:03:10):
So it's tied to your email address. That's fairly important. Make sure you're using the same email address that you bought it with for iPad, Android or windows full installed versions, new upgrades already. It sounds like that's the only caveat doesn't have to be a first time buyer, but the, but they say it several times in bold recipients, email address must match the email address you bought it with. So if your Costco membership, for instance, is under it for an email address that it won't work, it has to be the email address that you bought it with is the email address you activate it with. That's the only thing I can think of. If you have issues, access your purchase at the digital order portal. And there are digital order portal fax. I mean, you know, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. Amazon also offers this.

Leo Laporte (01:04:07):
Apparently there are a lot of companies doing this. This is Microsoft's way of getting you in the fold. And frankly, it is a better, from my opinion, it's a better deal than buying it out. Right. You know? Gosh, what is it cost to get office in a box hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Yeah. It's I think it's a better deal to buy the subscription. I'm sorry. You had that experience. You've told the world, Paul eighty eight eighty eight, ask Leo the phone number, tech guy labs.com the website. Take more of your calls in just a little bit. Mike, a Sergeant and Leo. Leport your two tech guy today. Saturday is a double tech guy day. It

Mikah Sargent (01:04:44):
Is indeed.

Leo Laporte (01:04:45):
I like that. If I could only persuade him to work for free, he'd come in tomorrow. Haven't been able to do that. You did get a nice Mac in a morning.

Mikah Sargent (01:04:54):
I, oh boy, here we go. It's got

Leo Laporte (01:04:55):
Warm. I'm not saying I'm not saying anything. I just, you know. Yeah. Just for remember who, who takes care of you there?

Mikah Sargent (01:05:04):
What was that? Sorry, gotta take these ears out.

Leo Laporte (01:05:10):
When's your studio come March 30th,

Mikah Sargent (01:05:12):
March 30th, April 6th.

Leo Laporte (01:05:13):
Yeah. That means March 30th. Hopefully they always do that. Yeah. They always give you that window. Yeah, mine comes March 30th too.

Mikah Sargent (01:05:20):
I'm curious though. Are you gonna do swap it with Lisa

Leo Laporte (01:05:22):
Swap? Yeah. Oh, you you know me so well.

Mikah Sargent (01:05:26):
Yeah. Yeah. Well, swappy swapping

Leo Laporte (01:05:29):
You, you know me very well. I've been thinking, I don't know.

Mikah Sargent (01:05:31):
You might have to brute force a couple of of those coat projects next year. Or the,

Leo Laporte (01:05:39):
I don't think advent of code would be much faster. Honestly.

Mikah Sargent (01:05:42):
Look, I'm trying to give you reasons.

Leo Laporte (01:05:44):
I know. She loved it. T is

Mikah Sargent (01:05:49):
That, is that one gonna be delivered here?

Leo Laporte (01:05:50):
Yeah, I know home. Oh,

Mikah Sargent (01:05:52):
Why? Oh, wait. No, it, I should have darn it. I should have yesterday. We should have threw own some stuff at it. I wanna kind of see it. Try to put a motion project together.

Leo Laporte (01:06:01):
Yeah, I was actually an Anthony has Anthony Elson has a, a big motion project that we used last time. And then I, I forgot to ask Alex for his photogrammetry. The problem is I have to install that app and he has to gimme his data file. But let me, let me do that actually right now, I'll slide. Good idea. I'll email him and say, Hey, send me. And then Lisa will not be able to use her Mac for a while. So Leo Laporte the tech guy, 88 88. Ask Leo Michael sergeants here as well. We're taking your call talking high tech with Jim and grand rapids, Michigan. Ella, Jim.

Caller 4 (01:06:43):
Hello? Hello,

Leo Laporte (01:06:44):
Leo. Good to have you welcome. Got it.

Caller 4 (01:06:47):
Got a question. My mother-in-law recently passed and my father-in-law wants to make a slideshow. Aw. Of a bunch of photos he has. Yeah. And he bought some USB thunder drive already. I guess the problem is, well,

Leo Laporte (01:07:03):
He is already now. That's funny that that's the first thing he should do. I got some thumb drives. Yeah. Now what,

Caller 4 (01:07:09):
But he, the problem is the friends and relatives everyone's on different platforms.

Leo Laporte (01:07:14):
No. Yeah. That's not the easiest way to do it. Yeah.

Caller 4 (01:07:16):
IOS, Androids. I'm wondering Google for

Leo Laporte (01:07:19):
Photos.

Caller 4 (01:07:19):
I'm on a Mac. I'm wondering what app I should use to make it and to

Mikah Sargent (01:07:24):
Make it

Leo Laporte (01:07:27):
You and you, and you want all these other relatives to contribute photos to it.

Caller 4 (01:07:32):
They he's already got, 'em all ready to get. Oh,

Leo Laporte (01:07:34):
Okay. So you don't have to. Okay. That's why I was saying Google photos, cuz that would be easy to make an album that everybody uploads too. And you could certainly make a simple album of

Caller 4 (01:07:42):
Show. Yeah. Right. And something, if I can put it on a still put 'em on thumb drives. I don't know if I

Leo Laporte (01:07:48):
Yeah. Yeah. You sure can. So you already have one program. That'll do a good job with this, which is IMO.

Caller 4 (01:07:54):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (01:07:55):
The other one is also free. That would do a good job with this is keynote

Mikah Sargent (01:07:58):
And photos will also

Leo Laporte (01:08:00):
Do it. And photos

Mikah Sargent (01:08:01):
Itself, the

Leo Laporte (01:08:02):
Photos show

Mikah Sargent (01:08:03):
I got a link for you. It

Leo Laporte (01:08:04):
Kind of depends what features you want. If really you just want, you know, music, maybe some text and pictures that slide or move or, you know, the, the thing that everybody wants to do is that effect that they used in the civil war. The Ken burns effect that where, oh yes. You know, remember he did the documentary. Of course there's no video from the civil war, but he brought it to life by panning, in zooming out, moving around on a still picture makes it kind of brings it to life. And so that's the, they actually literally call it the Ken burns effect in IMO. And and so IMO will do that. Beautifully. iMovie does not require video. It'll do it's all of its IMO things, including everything I just described with stills as well. And you just drag 'em in make, 'em the timeline. It's maybe a little bit more work because not automated at all. You're doing it all hand by hand. So for 300 pictures, not a big deal for 3000 big deal. So it just depends on how long you want this movie to be and right. And so forth. Yeah, I think Apple's photos would do it. Yeah. Kind of automat in an automated fashion, they have the

Mikah Sargent (01:09:13):
Lots of modern technologies that they do as well to make sure that the music matches based on, oh,

Leo Laporte (01:09:18):
They do the beat matching and all that. Yeah. That's kind of nice. 

Mikah Sargent (01:09:21):
I've got a link to the support document that walks you all the way through this tech guy, labs.com is where we'll post that. And that way what's what's great about this page is that the page at the bottom, it has a link to export slideshow. So you learn how to export for whatever file type you need. Leo suggested Google photos is a way to share the link with multiple people. Even an unlisted YouTube video would be an option where all you have to

Leo Laporte (01:09:48):
Share thumb

Mikah Sargent (01:09:48):
Drives. Some people you don't have to send anybody a thumb drive,

Leo Laporte (01:09:50):
You have the thumb drives. So yeah, what you'll end up doing, if you get a thumb drives, you'll, you'll make a movie, an MP four movie, which you'll put on the thumb drive, cuz that's the only way to get the animation and the music and all of that.

Caller 4 (01:10:01):
Okay, great. Yeah. I was thinking it was probably gonna be one of those apps, but it's been so long. Well, it's

Leo Laporte (01:10:05):
Not. The nice thing is apple provides you. These are all free apps that come with a Mac that are quite capable. Microsoft just bought, believe it or not a video editing program. That because the, you know, for years windows came with movie maker, which was not great, but it was something I think they still have some video editing, but Microsoft just bought a much better video editing company. And I think they're gonna start building that into windows, but right now Apple's the king on this. They, they provide you with three different ways to do it.

Caller 4 (01:10:38):
Great. I've got a new M one IMAX.

Leo Laporte (01:10:40):
Oh you're in luck. Which one did you get?

Caller 4 (01:10:44):
I got the the middle one,

Leo Laporte (01:10:49):
The middle. One of,

Caller 4 (01:10:51):
Oh the like, I love the model that comes with the eight gigs. And it has the, the four.

Leo Laporte (01:10:55):
You got the new studio.

Caller 4 (01:10:58):
No, no, no, just the, the laptop, the 24 inch iMac.

Leo Laporte (01:11:01):
Oh the iMac. Oh, those, you know, I'm thinking I should replace this with the iMac at first. I, I, I poo-pooed it because I thought, oh, it's you know, 24 inch screen, you know, it's only the M one, but now that I'm learning that the M one is the same single core all the way across. Yes. I'm realizing it's gonna be fine.

Caller 4 (01:11:21):
Wait.

Leo Laporte (01:11:22):
Yeah. And I don't know if you know, this is, there's some question about whether Apple's gonna do a big iMac again, because they are in effect making something like that with a studio I'm back and forth on it. The rumor mill initially said, no, that's the there's no more 27 inch iMac. We had heard rumors, there'll be a 30 or 31 or 32 inch iMac, same size body. But with no bezels, cuz this has a big bezel around it. But when they released the 24, everybody said, wow, that's interesting. And now that they've released the studio plus monitor their rumor is that's it no more IMAX, but I don't. I think they will do a higher end IMAX, but it'll be either late this year or early next.

Caller 4 (01:12:01):
Yeah. I'll be a while. This one so I could not wear, you've

Leo Laporte (01:12:04):
Got the right one and that, which color did you get? That's the most important thing?

Caller 4 (01:12:07):
I, I actually went with silver. I do photo editing. So I wanted something smart.

Leo Laporte (01:12:11):
Smart. Yeah. So you already do photo editing. What do you use for that?

Caller 4 (01:12:16):
I do Photoshop all day Photoshop. I'm using Photoshop since version one.

Leo Laporte (01:12:19):
Do you use light room at all?

Caller 4 (01:12:21):
I

Leo Laporte (01:12:22):
Do. Light room also has a slideshow.

Caller 4 (01:12:25):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (01:12:27):
So, so now you have four ways you can do it.

Caller 4 (01:12:30):
There

Leo Laporte (01:12:31):
We go. I, I, here's the point don't buy anything. You have so many ways to do this. You don't have to buy anything. Sure. Hey, now I get why you're nominated to do this. Are you a photographer?

Caller 4 (01:12:41):
I, I do photography, not professional, but I've been taking photos since a kid. So

Leo Laporte (01:12:46):
Yeah. And you're happy with the the iMac.

Caller 4 (01:12:49):
I am.

Leo Laporte (01:12:50):
I think that's what I'm gonna, cause I need to replace this 5k iMac. Cause it's eight years old now. I I think maybe that's what I'll yeah, I might get purple

Caller 4 (01:12:57):
Thousand 14 and yeah, I got recommended from probably have heard Terry White that works Adobe and he recommended Terry's

Leo Laporte (01:13:05):
Great. And he said it works well with that's interesting with Photoshop and it does

Caller 4 (01:13:10):
See

Leo Laporte (01:13:10):
That proves my point. Yep. Photoshop will use multiple processors to doing a lot like G and blurs, but who does Gian blurs? Really?

Caller 4 (01:13:18):
No.

Leo Laporte (01:13:19):
I guess if you're doing stacking, if there's a few things you might do that the multiprocesors would help, but you're saying the responsiveness is fine.

Caller 4 (01:13:27):
Great.

Leo Laporte (01:13:28):
That's really good to know. All right. You just sold me. Thank you Jim. But good news. You don't have to pay a penny to do your slideshow. That's a very nice thing you're gonna do for the family. That's great. Yeah.

Caller 4 (01:13:40):
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well thank both of you.

Leo Laporte (01:13:43):
All right. Our pleasure. So you, it sounds like you think you should just use photos cause it's already in photos, it's

Mikah Sargent (01:13:49):
Built into photos. It's incredibly easy to do. Apple has all that stuff built in and that is where they're paying the most tension for those features to make a really good slideshow. Yeah. So it's almost more complicated over complicating things to jump out of that

Leo Laporte (01:14:03):
Since we are again, talking about apple and we only have a minute, so I can't take another call, I will say one more thing, which is if you're in the market for a new M one, you should know the stores do have even the latest Mac studio display and the Mac studio. But what they generally have is the kind of the bottom of the line of whatever you're getting. I looked at our local store. They don't have the ultra anymore. They must have had one that they sold, but they do have the studio with the M one max in it available as long as you're willing to get the, the kind of the low end base model. So if you are in the market as I now am for an iMac and you wanna get it, you know, if you ordered an M one max, now it's three months out or M one ultra, I should say it's three months out. But you, you can go down to the store, the apple store, if you have one near you and many people do and get it today, like I'm gonna later today, Leo Laport guy,

Leo Laporte (01:15:04):
Johnny jet coming up, Hey

Johnny Jet (01:15:05):
Johnny, Hey,

Leo Laporte (01:15:07):
I almost said I should I get purple pink? I don't know what the color is. Orange. I like the orange a lot. Tim likes the purple.

Mikah Sargent (01:15:17):
I think purple's a pretty Regal color.

Leo Laporte (01:15:19):
It's Regal. All right, Johnny, did you get a new laptop or no,

Johnny Jet (01:15:26):
Not yet.

Leo Laporte (01:15:27):
Get a Mac. I, you know, you said you want a windows?

Johnny Jet (01:15:30):
My, my wife says the same thing, but listen, I've spent 20 something years on the PC. You, My computer was a Mac

Leo Laporte (01:15:38):
I'm so I bet you, you also spent 20 years drinking, Coors light, but at some point you gotta grow up.

Johnny Jet (01:15:45):
Do you really think? Cause I, I came this close to dropping it and I actually went to buy it. Cuz I contacted HP. They did not have another battery. So I was gonna buy the newer model.

Leo Laporte (01:15:54):
The specs are beautiful. I, I have a specter. I love it.

Johnny Jet (01:15:57):
And I didn't buy it because one, they recommended only comes in silver and

Leo Laporte (01:16:01):
I was like, oh no, no you want the copper.

Johnny Jet (01:16:02):
That's what I said. I know. And so that's why I did not pull a trailer. They

Leo Laporte (01:16:06):
Have a leather one. You want leather?

Johnny Jet (01:16:10):
My leather. Yes.

Leo Laporte (01:16:13):
No, yes. You don't want a leather computer?

Johnny Jet (01:16:16):
No, not like hanging out. None of the bars.

Leo Laporte (01:16:23):
No. I think those are very nice. I just, I really you're a, you know, you're, you're a left brain kind of guy.

Johnny Jet (01:16:31):
I'm a lefty too.

Leo Laporte (01:16:32):
Yeah. I, well that means you're a right brain kind of guy. Well

Johnny Jet (01:16:36):
I right lefty. I, I can never tennis, which ping pong lefty, which

Leo Laporte (01:16:41):
Is the scientific side.

Mikah Sargent (01:16:43):
They say that lefties are the creatives. Yeah. With the right side of their brain,

Leo Laporte (01:16:47):
Right side of the brain

Mikah Sargent (01:16:48):
And righties are more scientific, more

Leo Laporte (01:16:49):
Scientific side of their brain. So the Mac is for lefties. Yeah.

Johnny Jet (01:16:53):
Then I need a Mac

Leo Laporte (01:16:54):
Lefty too. Right? Of course we're all left. He's in this room. Yep.

Mikah Sargent (01:16:57):
Raise your hand. If you have a Mac.

Leo Laporte (01:16:59):
No, he doesn't have a Mac. I know

Johnny Jet (01:17:01):
He needs to

Leo Laporte (01:17:02):
Get all, but you also have tech support with Natalie.

Mikah Sargent (01:17:05):
I do. And also with Leo, every Saturday

Leo Laporte (01:17:08):
I'll support you, whatever you got. So he asked me what he should replace the spec with. I said the spec, the new specs are great. And they, they still do make a copper one, by the way.

Johnny Jet (01:17:17):
I, I mean tech support called me,

Leo Laporte (01:17:20):
But lefthanders use the right side of the brain. Yeah, exactly. John. So that's what we were saying is that lefthanders because weirdly enough, a lefty has a right dominant. So that means lefties would be more artistic

Mikah Sargent (01:17:31):
And lefties are also the only ones in the right. Because they use the right side of the brakes.

Leo Laporte (01:17:37):
Yes.

Johnny Jet (01:17:39):
10%, 10% of the world's lefty.

Mikah Sargent (01:17:41):
I know we're such a minority. It's wild.

Leo Laporte (01:17:44):
Yeah. We're minorities in so many ways. Okay. Leo, except for me. Okay. Boomer old white man. I'm an old baby boomer. Okay. I'm gonna go to the apple store.

Mikah Sargent (01:17:55):
Oh my God. Okay. The teal is really pretty. Is

Leo Laporte (01:17:58):
The till pretty. They

Mikah Sargent (01:17:58):
Call it green, but it's not green.

Leo Laporte (01:18:00):
It's a, Teal's a nice color too. You will kind of, I mean, it's in the studio's so it should be lovely looking. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages. It's time for Johnny jet. Our traveling guy joins us every week to talk about travel. It's I admit, I admit the last two years have been kind of scant travel wise. The more people

Johnny Jet (01:18:29):
Understandment

Leo Laporte (01:18:29):
Flu week then have flown even then flew in 2019.

Johnny Jet (01:18:34):
Well, yesterday over 2.3 million people passed through TSA checkpoints. And that's the most since the Sunday after Thanksgiving this year and the numbers are up, they're gonna go up or are still not quite there. Although the Delta to CEO, Delta airline CEO this week said that last week, they had their best week ever. Actually he here's a quote.

Leo Laporte (01:18:58):
Yeah.

Johnny Jet (01:18:59):
The busiest booking day in the, in its history last

Leo Laporte (01:19:02):
Week. Wow. Ever and

Johnny Jet (01:19:04):
Ever. And he said, he's now seeing the strongest demand in his career. He also said that he expects domestic air affairs are gonna jump between five and 10% and the international routes will even go higher.

Leo Laporte (01:19:15):
Wow.

Johnny Jet (01:19:16):
So I just spent the all morning writing a post about 10 ways on how to save booking airfares because you still can, you just gotta be creative.

Leo Laporte (01:19:25):
Yeah.

Johnny Jet (01:19:27):
So I'm happy to talk about some of them or just I'll post it in the, in general.

Leo Laporte (01:19:32):
Oh, talk, talk about it, man. Talk about

Johnny Jet (01:19:34):
It. Well, I mean, there's, I, I'm not gonna go through all 10, but number one, I always say this, you have to be flexible. You're not gonna be able to get a deal when everyone else is flying. And I use screenshots from like LA to London and I showed that how much it costs in July. And then it it's, it's a, you know, 30% less, if you leave middle of August. And also if you leave in, in the middle of the week, you save a lot of money. So every route is different, but you have to look and just try and figure out when people are not flying. And that's when you wanna do it, cuz you have the best experience. The plane won't be as crowded and you'll save money most importantly. But also always look for where these new routes are popping up. We talked about it last week. I said breeze airways. They had new routes from San Francisco and LA. They had 35 new routes, you know, with introductory fair, for $99, whenever an airline launches a new route, almost always do they put it on sale and that's when you jump on it or if a new airline pops up or starts flying to a new destination, you gotta jump on it.

Leo Laporte (01:20:35):
They're losing money though. Probably. Yeah. On those or no.

Johnny Jet (01:20:39):
Oh for sure. The

Leo Laporte (01:20:40):
First few years it's just to get you in the door. Oh, they're gonna lose money in the first few years.

Johnny Jet (01:20:44):
Probably. Yeah. I mean it all depends. I mean, look at look, wow. Airlines used to be the low, fair carrier out of Iceland. They they're out business, but they would put FARs on for like $99 to Europe sometimes even cheaper. And then they would just get you on the, on all the extras. So you have to be careful about low fair carriers. I'd talk about this in my article as well.

Leo Laporte (01:21:05):
My kid, and this is as you know, a hundred years ago, we would go to Europe via Icelandic airlines. You had to stop in rake UIC. Is that still a thing?

Johnny Jet (01:21:16):
Of course. And that's what wow airlines, their whole thing was. And now there's actually a new Icelandic airline. That's trying to compete with ice, Iceland air. And but listen, Iceland is, you

Leo Laporte (01:21:26):
Had to go through Iceland, but it was like really a cheap way to go to Europe. Everybody, everybody I knew. That's how they would go to Europe.

Johnny Jet (01:21:32):
That's why there there's the blue lagoon. It's only 20 minutes away from KIC airport, which is where you

Leo Laporte (01:21:37):
Fly TV. Oh. So you go to, you go to RA Vic, you go, you go to the blue lagoon. You

Johnny Jet (01:21:41):
See, it's not a long layover. Even in like a three hour layover, you could go to the blue lagoon. So

Leo Laporte (01:21:45):
Nice.

Johnny Jet (01:21:46):
But Iceland's beautiful country. It's

Leo Laporte (01:21:48):
Really. Yeah. You really should say I'll take a couple of days in Iceland on the way. I think definitely

Johnny Jet (01:21:53):
That was the,

Leo Laporte (01:21:53):
And they offer,

Johnny Jet (01:21:53):
I think

Leo Laporte (01:21:53):
You could do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Johnny Jet (01:21:54):
They still offer these free stopovers. And a lot of other airlines are trying to do the same actually what's going on with Russia, you know, closing the airspace, Alaska used to be the same way as Iceland. So they're trying to reposition themselves saying, Hey, when you're going to Asia, stop off in Anchorage. Yeah. but they're having a hard time trying to woo these airlines. That's what they want do right

Leo Laporte (01:22:14):
Now. Yeah. Yeah. is it

Leo Laporte (01:22:18):
Is it like going spirit? Like you're gonna have no leg room. Is it pay forever? You not buy a bag, things like that. Well,

Johnny Jet (01:22:24):
This new airline what's the I'm spacing on the name, but Iceland air, you know, it's borderline, it's not a low cost carrier. It's

Leo Laporte (01:22:32):
Not Mar it's not, but

Johnny Jet (01:22:33):
They do charge. They'll charge you for food.

Leo Laporte (01:22:35):
If you wanna live flat, it'll be in the aisle in other words. Yeah. But

Johnny Jet (01:22:39):
I was on the inaugural once on Iceland air from San Francisco to rave and it's only a seven and a half hour flight. And from, from the east coast, it's five hours to Iceland. People don't realize how close to Europe is. And then it's just another two, two hour jump or wherever you're going. Right. You know, two hours of London or two and a half. Yeah. So it's, it's a great little layover and I, I really do you know, Iceland's one of the most beautiful natural landscape countries like Norway, Switzerland, New Zealand, it's up there.

Leo Laporte (01:23:10):
Nice.

Johnny Jet (01:23:11):
So keep that in mind, keep mind. But

Leo Laporte (01:23:12):
Anyway,

Johnny Jet (01:23:13):
Keeping it, getting back to yes. To making some saving some money. Also, if you're going to Europe, you can look at buying two separate tickets too. One time. Yeah. One time I was going to sarin and the airfares were like, you know, $2,000 one way. So I was like, I'm like, I can't afford that. So I bought a one way ticket from New York to London for like $600. And then I bought a separate ticket the following day on a low, fair carrier to Sarnia for less than a hundred. So I saved over a thousand dollars.

Leo Laporte (01:23:40):
If you buy a one way ticket, are you more likely to get that SS S S on your boarding pass in the four,

Johnny Jet (01:23:47):
The four SS. Yes. I mean you are, but all they're gonna do is take you aside and just, you know, look at you a little bit more.

Mikah Sargent (01:23:53):
What do those SS mean?

Johnny Jet (01:23:56):
It's a, it's a security thing, but

Leo Laporte (01:23:57):
You get an extra little extra something. You never got four S

Mikah Sargent (01:24:00):
I've never been outta the country in case you're trying to run away. Is that what it's?

Leo Laporte (01:24:03):
No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a sign that you need to get a special search. So before you get on the plane, they actually go through everything. But

Johnny Jet (01:24:12):
It's, it's not every

Mikah Sargent (01:24:14):
Your,

Johnny Jet (01:24:15):
And especially random.

Leo Laporte (01:24:16):
Sometimes it's sometimes it's completely random. Totally.

Johnny Jet (01:24:19):
You could have a round trip ticket and they don't do it every time you, one

Leo Laporte (01:24:22):
Point it stands for secondary security screening selection. Gotcha. And that means trouble.

Johnny Jet (01:24:28):
Most of my tickets, most of the tickets I buy, I buy one way because I change my schedule. So, oh,

Leo Laporte (01:24:33):
So you're used to it. So it's not the end of the world. You don't get, you know, the stink eye and what you do.

Johnny Jet (01:24:38):
No, but when you're traveling to Europe or especially, it's a red

Leo Laporte (01:24:41):
In

Johnny Jet (01:24:41):
Europe, well, you don't want to even buy it a one way because actually it does cost more than a round trip. Sometimes you just wanna buy a round trip cuz you'll save money and don't even fly that last leg. Although the airlines do not like you

Leo Laporte (01:24:52):
Talking about this, they don't like that at all. Yeah, no,

Johnny Jet (01:24:55):
But anyway, back to that point, you can just fly, you know, two by two separate tickets. Just make sure you leave plenty of time because sometimes like the, my flight to London left out of a different airport. So you can't do it in the same day. You spend the night. And if you've missed that flight on these low fair carriers you're done and they're also gonna get you on bags. So you're really gotta make sure you pack light, read every, even the mainline carriers, you have to read the fine print and find out how much baggage you're allowed if you're even allowed to bring a bag on the plane or in the carryon. So, but

Leo Laporte (01:25:23):
The point is you, you work it right. And the way you do that, as you subscribe to Johnny's newsletters and the points guy and all these other newsletters and you kind of, you study it. Right. And

Johnny Jet (01:25:34):
If you definitely, there's a, there's a bunch of newsletters to sign. I obviously I'll wait to sign up to mine. But also one that I really like is Scott's cheap flights.

Leo Laporte (01:25:40):
You've mentioned that before. Scott's cheap flights. You paid for that's though. It's not a cheap. No,

Johnny Jet (01:25:45):
There's a free version and there's a paid version.

Leo Laporte (01:25:47):
Oh, okay. So

Johnny Jet (01:25:48):
Three version, you know, I, I think they wait a little bit before they give you the, the stuff. So other people can then book it. But you know, other, all these other

Leo Laporte (01:25:57):
Bloggers, they're the ones that do the, the mistake fairs, right? When there's like the oops, they do the oops

Johnny Jet (01:26:01):
Fairs. And also it's really flyer talk.com. You go on the flyer talk, it's been around for 20 something years. It's a chatroom old school, but this is where all lot of the bloggers find their information because people post these deals. They're like, oh my God, check out this a mistake fair. And then they write about it.

Leo Laporte (01:26:16):
So if you, you could do it yourself. I guess if you

Johnny Jet (01:26:18):
Definitely, if you wanna bypass newsletters, you go to flyer, talk dot, and then just check

Leo Laporte (01:26:23):
Out all these different, hang in the, hang in the rooms, chat rooms,

Johnny Jet (01:26:26):
Set up

Leo Laporte (01:26:26):
Some alerts and some bots and just be, have eight screens in front of you and you constant. But then you can't go anywhere cuz you gotta keep everything up to date and sounds like, but the

Johnny Jet (01:26:37):
Problem with mistake fair is by the way, is that the airlines don't have to honor them. Oh, most of them do because it's, it's good for good PR. Right? But sometimes they don't. So if you do buy one, you don't wanna start booking like non-refundable hotels or car rentals and things like that until you know, it's gonna go

Leo Laporte (01:26:54):
See, this is why we listen to Johnny jet. He is the travel guru. Johnny jet.com is website. There's great articles there. Johnny jet dot slash newsletter. He's got multiple newsletters, all free cuz he's nuts. But lots of great information in there following on Instagram at Johnny jet on Twitter at Johnny jet. Thank you Johnny.

Johnny Jet (01:27:15):
Thank you.

Leo Laporte (01:27:16):
Safe travels. You going anywhere this week?

Johnny Jet (01:27:19):
You never know. Ooh. I don't even know. He's

Leo Laporte (01:27:22):
A traveling man. Leo Laport. I've been there were I,

Johnny Jet (01:27:33):
You know what I forgot to mention last week and I, again, didn't have time this week, but I'll make a note for next week. Is that crystal cruises has a website for people to file claims.

Leo Laporte (01:27:44):
Cause they I went outta business. Right? Didn't anybody buy them yet?

Johnny Jet (01:27:48):
Nope.

Leo Laporte (01:27:48):
Is anybody gun you think?

Johnny Jet (01:27:50):
Well they have three ships. So they have a brand new one that a lot of people are gonna be interested in. And then they have two older

Leo Laporte (01:27:55):
Ships. So instead of buying the line, they may just sell the exactly ships.

Johnny Jet (01:27:58):
Exactly.

Leo Laporte (01:28:00):
That made me so sad cuz I always wanted to go. Cause I'd heard very good things about crystal. They were one of the five, the four, five star cruise lines.

Johnny Jet (01:28:09):
I'd never been on one, but actually I'm about to interview. One of my buddies who's been on hundreds of cruises after this. Oh, to talk about, you know the

Leo Laporte (01:28:18):
Cruise industry that be on your YouTube. Yes. Oh I will watch that. How about today? Cause so it was Seaborn Regency region seven CS silver sea, which is one. We go on a lot. Crystal and who was the fifth one? I can't remember maybe Seaborn.

Johnny Jet (01:28:35):
Did you

Leo Laporte (01:28:35):
Say sea? Yes. Said Seaburn. Maybe they're only four, but anyway bill handle loved crystal. He said that was the one to go on. Maybe Oceana. They have very good food. I don't know if they're or five star in everything, but

Johnny Jet (01:28:49):
I'll have to ask, ask him,

Leo Laporte (01:28:52):
Ask him, say my friend, Leo someday. I will wants to go on a world cruise, but he wants to go on the best cruise line. He doesn't, he doesn't wanna go. What is the name of that new boat? The world's largest boat. The something of the sea

Johnny Jet (01:29:06):
It's Royal curb. Actually they invited me on the

Leo Laporte (01:29:08):
RCI. Yeah. Two weeks ago we were on the Anthem of the sea. One of its early voyages. In fact we had that family suite, the two-story family suite, but they didn't have the slide in there

Johnny Jet (01:29:19):
In the suite or on the ship?

Leo Laporte (01:29:21):
No, in the suite on this new one. Really? Yeah they have. So this family suite, which we, we did get, which was great. There's two stories. Right? You have panoramic view you off the back of the boat. I loved that. It was crazy. I don't know why we did it, but we did. But the new one has that same suite, but with a slide in it. So you go down from the first story to the bottom

Johnny Jet (01:29:41):
Insane.

Leo Laporte (01:29:42):
Oh it's an insane ship all around. It's like 7,000 people. It's huge

Johnny Jet (01:29:46):
Kids on that.

Leo Laporte (01:29:47):
This is why. Well, we, we went on it cuz we thought Michael would enjoy it more. Cause his bumper cars and all that stuff, but it was so big and it was so crowded that you couldn't get on anything. It was like going to Disneyland on a peak day and I didn't enjoy it.

Johnny Jet (01:30:00):
I, yeah, I don't like that. He there you have to line up early. Even, even on when they do media trips, you gotta get there. You gotta get in line. Yeah, no.

Leo Laporte (01:30:09):
Before,

Johnny Jet (01:30:09):
Before everyone else. I mean quantum before I even open

Leo Laporte (01:30:12):
Quantum, quantum, the, these, the quantum and you know, I mean, it's great. If you, if you like crowds, if you like people, see, I don't like people. My problem. Right. So I want, but so the world cruise, I want to go on has 300 people on the boat. You probably get to know them a little too. Well,

Johnny Jet (01:30:29):
Well they just had a world cruise on sale last week and it sold out many.

Leo Laporte (01:30:33):
That was silver sea it's sold out in, in just a few hours.

Johnny Jet (01:30:36):
I think it was $80,000 a person. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:30:38):
That was silver sea. Yeah. The's the one I think we were gonna want to go on, but maybe region and then crystal was in the running. Find out you find out what's the best

Johnny Jet (01:30:48):
World cruise. One thing

Leo Laporte (01:30:49):
Crew might do. We might do cuz leases wear better cats. And know these world cruises are five months, four months. The one I wanted was six months, but cuz it's retirement. It's like when I, when I've throw, just

Johnny Jet (01:31:01):
Live on it.

Leo Laporte (01:31:03):
No, I don't wanna live on it. Just

Johnny Jet (01:31:04):
Live on it.

Leo Laporte (01:31:04):
But I'm thinking maybe I'll do one month chunks. Well,

Johnny Jet (01:31:09):
I, I I've met people where they've lived on the cruise. It's cheaper.

Leo Laporte (01:31:12):
It's probably cheaper. Yeah.

Johnny Jet (01:31:14):
But but, but not on these luxury ships. No.

Leo Laporte (01:31:15):
You know what? If I were a widower, I might, but I no at Lisa and I are not gonna live on a cruise ship. That that's crazy talk. Oh, it's crazy. Well,

Johnny Jet (01:31:27):
It's crazy. Talk with my wife too. Cause I was like that's that was my past cat.

Leo Laporte (01:31:32):
No. Yeah. Well maybe

Johnny Jet (01:31:33):
You

Leo Laporte (01:31:33):
Okay. You it's not gonna happen. You'll be you and me baby. We'll go on Johnny and Leo. It'll

Johnny Jet (01:31:38):
Be like the skipper and

Leo Laporte (01:31:40):
Gilligan. Who's Gilligan. Oh boy. Thank you. Thank you, Johnny. Take care. Which one's killing him. Leo Laporte Mike a Sergeant, your tech guys. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number back to the phones we go and it's Edgar. I almost said the edge. I thought maybe we've got a celebrity. No, it's Edgar from San. Be Bernardino, California. Hi Edgar.

Caller 5 (01:32:11):
Hi. thank you for taking my call. I just had well an issue. I'm a boomer, so I kind know, like I know there's Google photos and the cloud to store photos, but I usually stick with sending myself an email, a couple of pictures. I've been doing it for years since I've had Yahoo like early 2000. Yeah. But I was cleaning up my phone earlier this week and I started sending myself pictures, my other Yahoo email. And when I logged, when I opened up the app to check my email and clear up my email or whatever, cause I get a lot of spam Yahoo. I found that I couldn't log in anymore and I was still able to log into my other account. So I'm like, okay, it's fine. At least I still have this account with my pictures that have been sending. But after that same thing. I got locked out and I can't.

Leo Laporte (01:33:05):
Oh boy.

Caller 5 (01:33:07):
I've tried searching. And I put my email, my username email or mobile phone number and I get, sorry, we don't sorry. We don't recognize this email. And I figured I'll give you a call cuz I was listening to you on KFI

Leo Laporte (01:33:20):
Good. How did you get your Yahoo mail? Did you get it direct from Yahoo or did you get it as a customer of Verizon or some phone company or something like that?

Caller 5 (01:33:30):
It, it had to be through Yahoo. Cause like I mentioned, I got it like early 2000. That's like my first.

Leo Laporte (01:33:34):
Yeah. Okay. So you're you're yeah. Cuz they launched in right about then. So you've had it since they've been pretty much they're not gone. That's the good news, but they have been sold about 83 times. In fact, if you go to mail.yahoo.com, it says, this is not encouraging. When I see this on an email site, Yahoo mail is going places, come with us. What? Okay, what you going? I don't wanna go with you. Follow up with your feet up. Stay on top of, so I don't, they got sold. They got sold again. I think that's probably part of the problem. It is you, you have had the free accounts all this time, right?

Caller 5 (01:34:18):
Yes. Correct. And yeah, the only thing I'm the only you solution not solution, but there's a when I go to their help center, it says sure. Talk to somebody, but for $5.

Leo Laporte (01:34:29):
Oh my God. Well that, and I have to say, when you get something for free, the very first thing that's out, the window is tech support because that's expensive. You know, every call is 20 bucks or something. So that's why. But so I think we should figure out what's going on now. There are a couple of things that come to mind for one thing Yahoo, some years ago had a massive breach in which passwords and logins were leaked out. It is possible when you log in the, the Yahoo mail it says, what does it say? It says, I don't recognize you.

Caller 5 (01:35:02):
Yes. It says I don't recognize the the name. Okay. I'll try it again. I had it right now, but I, I,

Leo Laporte (01:35:08):
No that's okay. Yeah. It doesn't recognize the name, you know? Good, good practice. Although Yahoo probably is not the, a Paragon of good security practices. But good practice would not be to say your name or password or wrong or just would simply be I can't log you in.

Caller 5 (01:35:26):
Yeah, sorry. We don't recognize this email is the message I get in, you know, read red letters.

Leo Laporte (01:35:31):
Well, that's not good. You can get That's that's really not good. Cuz that's your email address and, and, and have you tried the, I forgot, you know, underneath it, it says forgot my password.

Caller 5 (01:35:42):
Yes, I did that. And it, and it asked you forgot username and, and it said you know, put your phone number. So I put the phone number

Leo Laporte (01:35:49):
And it doesn't know that either. And that was the phone number you used when you set up the account, do you know?

Caller 5 (01:35:54):
No. Cause eventually I changed eventually the use I changed numbers, so I've kept that up and I did get the text message with either with the random letters. Good. Punched those in. Yeah. I punched those in and I get it again. Sorry. We don't recognize this email.

Leo Laporte (01:36:07):
That's that sounds like their systems are messed up. Cause they're actually sending you to the proper phone number, that code. Yeah. That confirms they've got that information. They, that is correct. But then they don't. So that is very frustrating because you obviously have everything stored in there.

Caller 5 (01:36:27):
Yeah. And then I lost access to the second email, the other email that I was just sending myself like something the backup. So then I lost access to that one earlier. So

Leo Laporte (01:36:35):
A little tip next for next time. If you're gonna up back up to a different company, right? Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:36:42):
I have Google photos and I do have,

Leo Laporte (01:36:45):
Oh good. So you haven't lost anything?

Caller 5 (01:36:48):
Well, I've just lost all the old stuff. Yeah. Like my daughter is 16 now.

Leo Laporte (01:36:53):
Yeah. You don't wanna those baby pictures. Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:36:55):
Yeah. So it's just like,

Leo Laporte (01:36:57):
That's frustrating.

Caller 5 (01:36:59):
I might have to buy the bullet and pay them the $5 I'm thinking.

Leo Laporte (01:37:02):
Yeah. Maybe one thing I would try. You're doing this on a phone right now. Am I right?

Caller 5 (01:37:07):
Yes. Every everything's on the phone and yes. Do you

Leo Laporte (01:37:09):
Have a, do you have a computer you can use?

Caller 5 (01:37:12):
No, I see

Leo Laporte (01:37:13):
All

Caller 5 (01:37:14):
I did use a web browser. Does that help or should

Leo Laporte (01:37:16):
I, well, you might go to the library or, or, or go to a, a friend who has a, a PC, you know, a computer and see if you can just log to yahoo.com and see if they have any, it might be a different experience if you're doing it on a computer versus on your phone. I wonder, you know, Yahoo did. And all of these guys do, if you have an inactive account, does deactivate them. In fact, they, I remember when they did that and I would thought, oh, I want hear from people, but you, but, but your account was active. You were sending and receiving email and those accounts

Caller 5 (01:37:47):
Yeah, I was sending, receiving. Yeah. And then those two, those two emails, they were like my spam emails, like, you know, oh, put it in email for this

Leo Laporte (01:37:54):
Or for yeah. Yeah. I always do that. Yep. Yep. But, but they were not inactive. You had logged into both of them recently. Am I right.

Caller 5 (01:38:01):
Con constantly constant. Like I said, I take, I take a lot of pictures. I take a lot of pictures, so I just, this,

Leo Laporte (01:38:08):
This sounds like, and, and it might be related to the fact that Yahoo is, you know, changing companies and stuff. I think maybe it's only five bucks. I don't have high hopes, but at least there's somebody who could you know, look at their, from their server point of view and say, Hey, well, no, you're right. We don't, you know, maybe give you some idea of what happened.

Caller 5 (01:38:35):
Right. Cause the only yeah, I couldn't, cause like I said, I didn't know what was going on. And sometimes when I would go into my email and see like, Hey, did the pictures send in the outbox? It would just show, it would show drafts, but you wouldn't see the draft. It would just have the number in parentheses. Like you have four drafts and it's just like, okay, well where are they? Or

Leo Laporte (01:38:53):
There's a draft, there's a, a drafts folder. Yahoo did discontinue at the end of last month. China, you, you don't have a, you weren't getting on from China, right? No, no.

Caller 5 (01:39:06):
From Pomona, I think.

Leo Laporte (01:39:08):
And Yahoo and Pomona, that's not China. As far as I know Yahoo mail was down for a bit. I'm looking at down detector and they down for a bit, but this is con this just happened again. So it's, it's currently happening. Boy, I, I think this has to do probably with Yahoo moving from one company to another there's sometimes disruptions, I hate to say, spend the five bucks, but you've been getting this mail for free for almost 20 years. So yeah, maybe it's time just spend five bucks and if they don't help you, they don't help you. But there's enough in there that you, yeah. You want those baby pictures. And then from then on don't trust, email to store that stuff. And if you, if you're gonna back it up, back it up to a different company. So if the co you know, send it to your Gmail. So in case Yahoo goes belly up, I know

Caller 5 (01:39:57):
I, apple is fine as far as backups also.

Leo Laporte (01:40:00):
Yeah, Apple's fine too. But again, never put all your eggs in one basket is the, is the, is the backup.

Caller 5 (01:40:06):
That's what I was doing. I was just spreading it all around, you know,

Leo Laporte (01:40:08):
Good man. But you didn't spread it far enough. Yeah.

Caller 5 (01:40:13):
Thank you so much for your help.

Leo Laporte (01:40:14):
Hey, you're welcome. Yeah. Yahoo got bought by at and T and then I think at and T is spinning them off and, oh, it's a mess. Verizon per wait a minute. Verizon purchased Yahoo at and T used Yahoo mail. I can't even follow the, yeah, the it's so freaking complicated web. So, and then if Verizon, I don't know if they exactly spun it off. They got rid of it. I don't even know who owns Yahoo. These days. Apollo global management owns Yahoo, Apollo, global management. And remember Verizon briefly renamed it to oath. And then they said, that's a terrible name. Let's name it, Yahoo. Again.

Leo Laporte (01:41:07):
I think this could be just part of, of, of Apollo getting Yahoo, moving the let's hope. So Leo Laport be tech guy with Micah start. Why? Hey, Hey, Hey. How are you today? Leo Laport here, the tech guy, time to talk computers in the internet and home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches, all the technology, everything with a chip in it. 88 88. Ask Leo. We talk a little bit about the new apple hardware, the Mac studio and the Mac studio display. Both of us proud owners. Well, you have one. I have the other, so I'm gonna have to borrow your display to use my Mac studio, but that's okay. That's fair. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number should be, I guess we didn't have room to put, ask my and Leo that's

Mikah Sargent (01:41:55):
All right. Phone number. That would make it a very long phone number.

Leo Laporte (01:41:57):
You could, if you want though, dial 88, 88 as Leo and Micah, it would still get here. Would it? Oh yeah. It's just a lot of extra numbers. Lot of useless, extra numbers, but you could. And I guess that's what Gary did from cam. Hello, California. Hi Gary. Leo Laport. The tech guy.

Caller 6 (01:42:17):
Hi Leo. Let's talk to you. Welcome. Thank

Leo Laporte (01:42:20):
You.

Caller 6 (01:42:22):
Let's get a couple que quick questions. I'm gonna have to take my phone in. I have an iPhone 12 to get the battery replaced. Do like delete the

Leo Laporte (01:42:32):
Yes. Delete everything. So the thing I wish it were more widely known. I'm really glad you asked my, my good friend will dropped his laptop, fell off the counter. They sent it in the apple. They repaired it. They replaced the logic board. Hundreds of dollars later came back. There was nothing on the drive. And he said, oh yeah, yay. You should know that apple as routine policy, when you send something in to fix it, wipes it. And I think they do that because they don't want liability for anything that might be on there. So I think before they even look at it, they just wipe off the drive, put a generic operating system on there. And that there's another reason to do that because maybe the problems you're having with your phone were caused by apps. I mean, in your case not, but they wanna make sure it's just, this is the pure operating system. Now let's see how it works. And then there's not this issue of, oh my God. Look at these pictures. So I think you should absolutely back it up before you send it. And even though, you know, apple will wipe it just in case I would wipe it. Cuz you got everything's on there. That's your life, right?

Caller 6 (01:43:44):
Yeah. So if I, I mean I take the iPhone to the store. I just didn't wanna spy on it or so.

Leo Laporte (01:43:49):
Exactly, exactly. But it's also good to have a backup, you know, for a lot of reasons. So this is an occasion. Do you have a computer? You can back it up to,

Caller 6 (01:44:00):
Yeah, I have a computer, but I thought you could just do it on your phone. I mean on the,

Leo Laporte (01:44:03):
You can, but that's not. Yeah. So you could back it up to iCloud. If you've got enough storage in your iCloud, you can just make, it's all backed up and then go to settings in the general settings there's reset phone and just erase all content and settings. And you should always do that before you send it in to apple. Absolutely.

Caller 6 (01:44:22):
And then, then it would come back. All my apps and everything. Like I had it before.

Leo Laporte (01:44:25):
Yeah. If you, if you back it up now to the iCloud, when you get the phone back, it'll be just like, when you got it in the first place, they'll say, oh welcome. Hello. here's your new phone? What language do you wanna speak? That kind of thing. And then it will say, do you wanna set this up fresh or from an existing phone? And you say, oh, I have a backup. Set it up from that.

Caller 6 (01:44:48):
Can I have a quick question? I dunno if you can answer it or before they update it as a 15.4. Yeah. I was able to dial a star 82 on my phone with a voice activate. I would just say, you know, Hey sir, call. And it was star 82 and it did it, but essentially this update, it will not call star 82 numbers.

Leo Laporte (01:45:08):
Oh, that's interesting. Let me try it. I'm gonna mute my mic for a second. Hey Siri, call star 82. What, what happens when you call star 82?

Caller 6 (01:45:19):
I mean, I put the number star 82, so it'll be on walk cause I got my phone number.

Leo Laporte (01:45:22):
So it says you need to continue in the app now. Let's try it again. Hey Siri, call star 82.

... (01:45:30):
Just to confirm you'd like call 82.

Leo Laporte (01:45:34):
Yes.

... (01:45:35):
Calling 82.

Leo Laporte (01:45:37):
Well, it doesn't on my phone. I'm on, on is iOS 15.4. What am I gonna get by the way? Should I hang up now?

Mikah Sargent (01:45:46):
Okay. So what it does is by putting star 82 before

Leo Laporte (01:45:49):
You're calling the last oh, before a phone,

Mikah Sargent (01:45:51):
It tells the system that you're oh, okay. With showing your caller ID information,

Leo Laporte (01:45:54):
Turn on caller ID.

Mikah Sargent (01:45:56):
This is if you have a number that normally doesn't give the caller ID information.

Leo Laporte (01:46:01):
So you're, you're actually telling Siri, Hey Siri calls star two and then a phone number.

Caller 6 (01:46:07):
Well, I, I, I put stardy two for the phone number, but I say like call Leo and,

Leo Laporte (01:46:12):
And it's in there, you know who? And it's not dialing. Oh, I

Caller 6 (01:46:15):
See. It's not dialing. Yeah. Yeah. But if I, I can physically touch it it'll work, but it won't do voice activation.

Leo Laporte (01:46:22):
So, you know, a couple of generations ago, I think it was with the original iOS 15 might have been with the 14. It was with the 14. They, they mistakenly deleted a lot of capabilities. Siri used to be able to you know, send emails to do a lot of stuff and they took it out. And then the blind community especially was very upset. Apple did put it back. They said, whoops. That was a mistake. It took 'em about six months, but they finally put back those capabilities. It may be that once again, in this update, they have disabled the capability UN unwitingly unintentionally. And because that's kind of, you know, so you have it, it's in your context, you're not saying dial it. You're saying call Leo and it's not dialing the stardy two before you go.

Caller 6 (01:47:08):
No, that's,

Leo Laporte (01:47:09):
That's interesting.

Caller 6 (01:47:11):
But I have, most of my numbers are caller ID block, but I have like a couple with yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:47:16):
You want them to know you're calling? Yeah. That makes sense.

Caller 6 (01:47:20):
So I have to just physically touch the that, you know,

Leo Laporte (01:47:22):
That's annoying though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know anything about that. I'll, let's look, you know, you've got now the entire team working, trying to find out what happened. It's one of those little corners, you know, anytime you you do a big update to an operating system and 15 four is a big update. Sometimes you break things and the things that get back, get by your testing, your quality testing are things that are like that. Not, you know, very commonly done. I completely understand. And I bet you, there's thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe millions giving how many iPhones are of people doing this. So they're gonna hear about it. You'd probably be a good idea to report the bug to apple actually, because they would probably, if they get enough people saying, Hey, something's wrong. Mike is trying it right now. Are you trying it? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Mike is,

Mikah Sargent (01:48:19):
Yeah, I'm trying it. I, I added star 82 to your number and now we're gonna see,

Leo Laporte (01:48:25):
Okay. He's he's, he's calling me and we'll see. Yeah. Good's well, the reason that we're doing this is it could be the carriers doing it as well. Cuz that started too as a directive, not to the phone, but to the phone company. And so it could be the phone company is somehow not, not getting that. There is a feedback assistant on your phone. Well, there may be, I have one on my phone probably cuz I use a beta pack, but you can also report bugs directly to apple. Let's see what would be the best way, how to report bugs to apple. So they get fixed. Use the feedback assistant, which is, it has a website. You can go to feedback, assistant.apple.com. You'll have to sign in with your apple account, but that's it's good idea. When you find a bug that's really like a, this is a serious bug to report it to apple. Did it work? It, it appears

Mikah Sargent (01:49:21):
I mute, there we go. It appears to have worked. It just didn't show that it had stare to, and

Leo Laporte (01:49:26):
My phone didn't ring, but I think probably cuz I'm it went to blocking you cuz it's an unknown number. Yeah.

Mikah Sargent (01:49:32):
Oh that's the other thing I don't have. 

Leo Laporte (01:49:34):
Yeah. You turned it on when you do it. Yeah. Yeah. okay. So I'm I'm that's very interesting. We, we have not heard about this. Yeah. New to us, Micah. Apparently it did work.

Mikah Sargent (01:49:49):
I got the call through and it appears to have added the star 82 prefix beforehand. The only thing was it didn't show that whenever I

Leo Laporte (01:49:56):
Was no, you know what I said, I got a call from Micah Sergeant. All right.

Mikah Sargent (01:50:00):
So it

Leo Laporte (01:50:00):
Didn't so it did not block it then it

Mikah Sargent (01:50:02):
Didn't block it. No.

Leo Laporte (01:50:04):
Should, if I do star 82 and you're not using call or ID blocking, maybe

Mikah Sargent (01:50:08):
That's yeah. I'm

Leo Laporte (01:50:09):
Not sure. I don't remember. Is it a toggle or is it turn it on? So we sound like Costello here. I understand.

Mikah Sargent (01:50:20):
I dunno this a tough one,

Leo Laporte (01:50:22):
Gary. We haven't, we haven't demonstrated we'll keep playing with it. Do you know if you, if you have a problem with your phone, the best thing to do is feedback.apple.com. Just because that way they'll at least get that bug report. And perhaps it is a bug in which case there's a chance they'll fix it. And if anybody knows, seems like it, it unblocks you'd have to block first.

Mikah Sargent (01:50:45):
Yeah, exactly. I'd have to turn that off.

Leo Laporte (01:50:48):
All right. We're gonna take a break. Come back with more 88 88, ask Leo Abbot and Costello answering your tech questions next.

Mikah Sargent (01:50:56):
Who's in the first chair. What? What's on the second?

Leo Laporte (01:51:01):
Ah, yeah. Star 69 calls back the last caller. Even if there's blocked. I know that. Cause I just saw that happen in a movie. Oh, was it? It was so funny Lisa and I both said don't do that. She's gonna call, oh, I know it was in the PO Pam and Tommy show.

Mikah Sargent (01:51:22):
I'm

Leo Laporte (01:51:22):
Gonna call you. Okay. So you blocked.

Mikah Sargent (01:51:24):
I just turned off call

Leo Laporte (01:51:26):
ID. Okay. I should, I should turn off. Do not disturb is what I should do here. Okay. Focus is off. I must still be blocking you. Oh, you know it does. I think it blocks unknown callers.

Mikah Sargent (01:51:38):
Oh, that's right. It'll silence them.

Leo Laporte (01:51:39):
Yeah.

Mikah Sargent (01:51:40):
Okay. I'm gonna hang up and see if you

Leo Laporte (01:51:42):
Get, let me see what I have in my recents. See if I have another yeah. Unknown caller. Okay.

Mikah Sargent (01:51:46):
So now I'm

Leo Laporte (01:51:47):
Gonna talk now do it still

Mikah Sargent (01:51:49):
R 67 into

Leo Laporte (01:51:51):
The no, no star 82. Oh star

Mikah Sargent (01:51:53):
82. That's right.

Leo Laporte (01:51:54):
All right. So, so he called, he actually, here's how it works. Scooter X in his contact list. He had a phone number that included star 82 saying like, whenever I call this person, I don't want, I don't wanna block my caller ID. And it's apparently not doing that anymore. So now you have put star 82 and my phone number,

Mikah Sargent (01:52:15):
Call Leo's iPhone.

Leo Laporte (01:52:17):
And now let's see

Mikah Sargent (01:52:19):
Iphone.

Leo Laporte (01:52:20):
If that worked, I will see your name in my in my list. It should actually call ring too. Right? Yeah. He'd did say that, but he, it says your name. Wow. So that what does work? Yeah. Okay. So we've verified. It works. So why is it not working on his phone? We don't know. It's not really a, it sounds like maybe his phone company is no longer honoring it or something like that,

Mikah Sargent (01:52:48):
Or maybe it's actually happening, but mute it. But maybe it's

Mikah Sargent (01:52:53):
Actually, maybe it's actually happening, but just because it's no longer showing it in whenever he sees his dial cuz on mine, it just shows your,

Leo Laporte (01:53:01):
It doesn't show story too. Yeah, it

Mikah Sargent (01:53:03):
Doesn't.

Leo Laporte (01:53:03):
But it did unblock, but it did

Mikah Sargent (01:53:04):
Do

Leo Laporte (01:53:04):
It. Cause I, you know, that's so wonder if

Mikah Sargent (01:53:07):
Interesting UI

Leo Laporte (01:53:07):
That's a good tick. That's a good, maybe that's it. So we'll talk about that. When we come back we'll we'll see if we can figure that out. So I had mic a Sergeant, unknown caller and mic a Sergeant. That's really cool. Yeah.

Mikah Sargent (01:53:17):
That

Leo Laporte (01:53:17):
Is cool. Its good to know. And you're on which carrier

Mikah Sargent (01:53:21):
At and T so at scooter re is saying that some carriers don't have the option to toggle that on or off by default. But Verizon does and I on at and T also have the option to turn off color

Leo Laporte (01:53:34):
And presumably the callers cuz it was working for him. So, and unless he changed carrier, which probably didn't he says it changed when he went to 15 four. Yeah. So presumably something with the callers

Mikah Sargent (01:53:47):
And this is the other thing too clarification on what he means when he says it's not working because it may very well still be working. He's just not seeing it in his recents that it actually dialed that part of the number.

Leo Laporte (01:54:00):
Leo Laport, the tech guy, the guys are back in town, my Sergeant and Leo Laport during your call. So we in the break, Micah did a lot of

Mikah Sargent (01:54:10):
Leg work, so much work so much. Yeah. Leg work, hand work.

Leo Laporte (01:54:13):
Our caller says that he has caller ID blocking turned on by default on his smartphone, on his iPhone and what he'll do with callers that he wants to announce him self to he'll add star 82 to the phone number in his contact list. And then he'll ask Siri to dial that number, say, you know, call Leo and the star 82 will be dialed as part of my number. Right. He says with 15 four, it stopped doing that. So you're running an iPhone in 18 T with 15.4, you went through all the steps, turned on caller ID blocking called me. I saw unknown caller. Then you added star 82 to the entry and the contact list. I see your name. Yes. So it is working. Yes. You don't see star 82 in the number you're dialed.

Mikah Sargent (01:55:01):
Correct. When I go into my phone app and I look at recents, it just shows your name. And even if I hit the eye button to show information for it,

Leo Laporte (01:55:10):
It doesn't show star 82.

Mikah Sargent (01:55:10):
It, it does not have star 82 as,

Leo Laporte (01:55:13):
So maybe that's just a UI change. It's it stops showing that. I mean the only way to test it is call somebody and say, do you know who this is? Exactly. Hello? Hello. Do you know who this is? But it did work with at and T that's the other thing it's real a carrier feature.

Mikah Sargent (01:55:29):
Yes. Yes. That's the important thing to note is there are some different short codes and sort of prefixes that you can dial that are talking to the phone system and to your carrier as opposed to being something happening on your device

Leo Laporte (01:55:42):
Itself. Yeah. So the name may not be provided by the carrier, by the way, caller ID, the way it works, it gives you in general, it gives you the phone number, but not the name, your phone then looks up the name and your contact list. So if you're calling somebody who has your name and number in their contact list, your phone will say your name, other, otherwise just as the number. Correct. And in, in some cases, some phone companies do have an additional service where they'll put the name in there if they can get it. But that varies by carrier. So I don't think it's broken, doesn't appear to be broken, not in Iowa, 15 obvious that it is doing what you're asking it to do. Okay, good. And I don't know if that helps or call at all, but at least we were, we weren't able to reproduce it and that's, by the way, it, when you go to feedback.apple.com and you're giving them a bug report, one of the key features they want is, is it reproducible? Does it happen every time is if they can't do it, if they can't demonstrate it, they're not gonna take it. They're just gonna say they won't be able to fix it if face closed themselves. Yeah. Yep. Don's on the line from Anchorage, Alaska. Hi, do Don Leo Laport, the tech guy.

Caller 7 (01:56:56):
Hey Leo. Hi, it's Don. I talked with you quite a long time ago. I bought a HP window, seven computer and I succumbed to the offer to get the a 10 upgrade. Good. What a dumb mistake that was. Oh, you

Leo Laporte (01:57:07):
Hate it.

Caller 7 (01:57:08):
I hate it terribly, but I ended up having to get, replace the computer with an envy that I bought just about a year ago. Okay. And got the terabyte solid state drive. I'm a dinosaur computer guy. I'm. I started my life out on an IBM 360 programming. Wow.

Leo Laporte (01:57:25):
Hey. All right.

Caller 7 (01:57:27):
Yeah. So

Leo Laporte (01:57:29):
One of the heroes of the revolution,

Caller 7 (01:57:31):
Right? And I, I went kicking and screaming into the windows world back in the eighties, but,

Leo Laporte (01:57:37):
And you're apparently still kicking and screaming. Here's the problem with windows seven is it's not supported anymore for security. So 

Caller 7 (01:57:45):
Well, that's why I had, I, I put the computer, the Mo ball was hoping I can find some wizards that can change up the gut cause love the keyboard on that computer. Yeah. But but I'm I'm

Leo Laporte (01:57:56):
Well, you know, you might look at, since you like the old days, you might look at Linux, which is a Unix operating system. You could put that on there and that would be secure and up to date, it just wouldn't be wind is,

Caller 7 (01:58:07):
Well, that's a, that's a suggestion that I will definitely take the heart. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (01:58:11):
Anybody, anybody who's programmed in Fortran on an IBM 360 will will feel a little bit more at home. I think you can, even, you don't even have to have a graphical user interface if you wanna just be command line. If I don't think they do punch carts still, although you never know with Lennox, there probably is a punch card reader and writer somewhere.

Caller 7 (01:58:30):
I don't miss the days of carrying the suitcase around home punch card.

Leo Laporte (01:58:34):
I bet not. I bet not. So what, what was your question? Cause I interrupted 

Caller 7 (01:58:39):
No, that's fine. I, I got this really nice P B. And it's the large format of 17 in screen. And and one of the reasons I bought this particular one, cuz it still has a, a a CD drive in it. And I had an older version of Microsoft office, a 2003 edition and I loaded it on the computer. It was working fine. I love to do spreadsheets with Excel. And after I loaded my 2003 version, I noticed a little thing that pops up on boot up called device detector. And it does no longer auto detect. And I was wondering if you've ever heard of that before

Leo Laporte (01:59:17):
Device detector? Yeah. I mean, I get that from time to time with my office installation. It'll I think what is my guess is it doesn't say device detector, but it's something like I'm examining your machine and I, in my opinion, what it's doing is checking to see if I'm licensed to use these, you know, Microsoft and copy protection. I would guess that's the same thing it's looking to see if you have a license for that en envy. Did you, when you, when you installed office on the envy, do you install it directly there?

Caller 7 (01:59:49):
I did. And it ran fine until I succumbed to the invitation to do the 10 day free trial of windows 11, which I did a few months ago. And eight days into that trial, I decided I hat

Leo Laporte (02:00:04):
You have not learned a thing.

Caller 7 (02:00:07):
I just not. So now I'm stuck with this device detector that comes up at boot up and it never goes away. And I lost my Microsoft office and I tried to reload it and it reloaded, but it's a re only version now. And I, I don't know. I tried to undo the windows 11 update and I went in, I looked there's about a half a dozen different ways to do that. Looked like some of 'em actually charged. And I, I dug around until I found one that looks like it might be for Microsoft. So I did the windows 11 undo, which lasted fine until I shut the computer down that night. So I said, sure. And guess what it updated with windows 11 back on there. Ah,

Leo Laporte (02:00:48):
Can get rid, okay. A couple of things I'm gonna, first of all, tell you about my friend, Steve Gibson, who is much like you, an old timer. He states still writes an assembly code and he hates that popup saying, would you like to install windows 11? So he is written a small free assembly language. Actually, I think it's just a registry Mo modification program it's called in control. If you go to grc.com or you Google grc.com and in control, you can download this and it will stop the nag. It will, it will just turn off that whole windows 11 nagging.

Caller 7 (02:01:28):
Nice.

Leo Laporte (02:01:29):
So I would recommend that to start. You might, I mean, worst case scenario, you might wanna download windows 10 and reinstall, you know what you can do and just, you know, start from scratch, install office on top of it, everything will be back to normal. It sounds like you, you kind of gotten this version, you know, purgatory and you're going back and forth. So try and con try and control at least to start. See if that helps Leah. Sorry. We ran outta time, but I'm still, we're still here, Don.

Caller 7 (02:02:07):
Great. So something else came up Leo and I'm, I'm, I'm convinced that these modern that and my wife doesn't believe me, but my phone was sitting on the counter a few days ago. I was in the kitchen preparing a meal and all of a sudden my phone called her and she and I, I saw the screen light up and I reached the, picked up the phone and she's on the phone. She said, why did you call me? Said, well, the phone called you and she, oh, she says, that's impossible. That didn't happen. Well, no,

Leo Laporte (02:02:37):
I think it is possible. I think it's serious. Right. So if you said your wife's name and something like, seriously, Lisa,

Caller 7 (02:02:46):
Oh,

Leo Laporte (02:02:47):
I've had this happen seriously as one of the words that will trigger Siri. And I've had it happen in fact, all the time we'll be watching TV happened last night. And I hear, I don't know what you're talking about. I can find this on the web. The though, I mean, it's like, I'm not talking to you. Stop listening. So your phone has Siri on it. It is listening always. And I, my guess is that it, it, maybe you mentioned your wife's name. And I,

Caller 7 (02:03:14):
In that, that's a good point. Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:03:16):
Inadvertently triggered Siri to dial the number. I don't don't think there's any feature in there that would dial your wife, except there is one feature. If you have an apple watch. And I guess the phone has this feature too, where you can call, if she's in your, if she's your emergency contact, if it thinks you fell or got an accident, it can call your emergency contact. Yeah. But it would

Mikah Sargent (02:03:38):
Also dial emergency services at the same time. So you would've known when the fire department showed up.

Leo Laporte (02:03:43):
You can, if you don't want this to happen, turn off, you know, listen for, Hey Siri. Then you can still trigger it, but you have to press the screen on, off button and hold it to talk to her. The lady, the little

Caller 7 (02:03:53):
Lady I'd be happy to do it. So I'm, I'm after I got rid of the, those 11 and did the automatic update after I shut it down, out that time and windows 11 came back, something else happened. I got a new user added to my startup and the new user's name is Tobias. What, excuse me, I ignored. And I ignored Tobias and I ignored Tobias until finally, well, I'll go take a look at Tobias. I figured, well, it's gonna be password protected way. So there's no way I can do any harm. And I opened up to bias and it says, give me your password. So out of grins, I put in my personal password and it accepted it and it opened up the desktop. And now I've got this fabulous screen that I've never seen before that I didn't create. And it, and I'm, I'm getting really, really scared. Cause I'm thinking I may have fried my brand new computer.

Leo Laporte (02:04:44):
No. So I went, what's a screen, say

Caller 7 (02:04:47):
Nothing. It was just, it was looking really pretty. And it was looking really handy, but I'm thinking, oh, wait a minute. I'm I'm into I'm into the user that I never created. And I,

Leo Laporte (02:04:55):
There is a guy who works in my Microsoft research name. Tobias. Maybe. No, no I don't. You, don't your name? Your middle name. You have no Tobis in your life.

Caller 7 (02:05:06):
I did back when I was a very young guy in my thirties and I won't tell you how old I am now. You've already figured it out because I was an IBM 360 guy. But when I was a very young guy in my thirties, I had a do, made that I to buy,

Leo Laporte (02:05:19):
Oh, this is too weird. Now you're just teasing me now. Aren't you? Or do you live in a, a haunted cabin in Anchorage?

Caller 7 (02:05:27):
Well, it's not a haunted cabin, but it is the best B south Anchorage. Oh, nice.

Leo Laporte (02:05:32):
You run a BMB up there

Caller 7 (02:05:34):
Only for people I know.

Leo Laporte (02:05:35):
Oh yeah. All right. I'm gonna get to know you and Tobi us better. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. There's no reason now I would wipe your computer. Honestly. I think you get a USB drive. I think it needs to be 16 gigabytes. You can download a, a fresh copy of windows 10 because your computer has already been run. It. Won't ask for a serial number or anything. Make sure you back up your data obviously, but I would, I would wipe the whole thing and start over cuz that's not right. That's, there's something wrong going on there.

Caller 7 (02:06:09):
I think that may be the best advice I've gotten so far because I did get hacked a while back on a scam. They tried to take 10, $10 outta me.

Leo Laporte (02:06:18):
So that may have been Tobi. I, I have to run, but I would, I think this absolutely calls for wiping it and starting over. And it's an actually easy thing to do. They make it pretty easy. Thanks for the call to bias. It's so strange. He had a dog named to buy us. That's what's wild. Yeah. That's wild. Leo Laport, the tech guy, tech guy too. Michael Sergeant with us got a couple more calls before we get outta here. Of course D Barolos coming up, our Gimo wizard with some junky gadget nobody's gonna wanna buy, but you know, we, we, we humor him. We humor him and you buy a lot of, I buy almost everything. Yeah. I'm just mad. That's all. I have all sorts of junk that I bought because of Dicky D coming up, Donald another Don on the line from Lexington, Kentucky. Hi Donald.

Caller 8 (02:07:15):
Hello. Thanks for taking my call.

Leo Laporte (02:07:17):
My pleasure. Welcome.

Caller 8 (02:07:20):
I got a question. I I've got a million, well, not a million, but thousands of photos on my computer and some of 'em are duplicates, triplicates, quadruples, and I was one of some program that can sort all those. Help me delete the, the extras.

Leo Laporte (02:07:36):
Yeah. Windows or Mac

Caller 8 (02:07:39):
Windows.

Leo Laporte (02:07:40):
Okay. for Mac, I recommend Gemini too, which is a really good tool that will do this. I don't know if there's a Gemini for windows. I don't think there is, but what you want in a de I'm gonna let Mike a find one. You're good at that. But what don't you want in a windows D duper is in this case, something pretty smart because your photos, you can't just go by the name or the creation date. You really need to look at the photo and see if it's an exact duplicate. Correct. A lot of times the photos, yeah. They get named or you edit it or whatever.

Leo Laporte (02:08:18):
So you don't, you want to err on the side of, of not deleting anything that you don't have a real copy of and the best way to do that. And the best DDoS will do this is they actually do something called a hash or a CRC on the file where they create a, a unique number that represents the contents of the file might even include the name and the creation data, but enough data. So that it's unique. And then they compare the two and only if those two numbers, those two hashes or CRCs match, do they then say, ah, yes, this really is truly a duplicate. Have you found something? I,

Mikah Sargent (02:08:54):
The first one that I came cross is called do guru. And it is a, it's an open source application.

Leo Laporte (02:09:00):
Well, that's a good sign. Cause a lot of these they'll you, you say, oh, they're free. You download it, you run it and said, Hey, I found a 3000 duplicates. That'll be 99, 99, if you wanna delete them. And, but this won't because it's open source, do guru Steve or San Diego, Steve says in our, a chat room, duplicate file detective. But again, you're gonna, you're gonna be looking for something that is smart enough. You know, the last thing that you wanna do is delete something. That's you know, the only copy of a photo I presume. Yes.

Caller 8 (02:09:33):
Right, right. And, and I don't, you know it doesn't have be free, I think. Yeah. It takes to get done.

Leo Laporte (02:09:41):
Yeah. So I also found an article recent article 16 best free duplicate file finders and removers for windows. And one it recommends specifically for photos is called quick photo finder, quick photo finer. It is also free. And it does that exact thing. I talked about where it's looking at the contents of the file to make sure that it's not deleting a, you know, a single copy of that. So this sounds like this

Mikah Sargent (02:10:12):
One seems the most friendly too.

Leo Laporte (02:10:14):
It's got a nice interface. What it, one of the things it does is it will sh if you want, it can show you both photos before it deletes one of them and says, you know, yeah, drag and drop you drag the folder on there. This is such a common problem. We all have this problem. I have millions of duplicate photos. So there are quite a few, I'll tell you what we'll put, we'll put a quick photo finders, quick photo finder.com. We'll put a link to some of the other ones, the do guru as well@techguylabs.com. But there's two good free choices. Yeah. And I, I agree with you, 30 bucks would be fine, but what some of these guys do is a little scammy where they, they don't quite tell, tell you that it's gonna cost you a lot of money once you do this. So I, I think there's a couple that are very good. Here's another one called VI pics. V I S I P I C S that's specifically for duplicates free to use. So I'm, I, I'm also gonna put this article in here cause there's quite a few choices.

Caller 8 (02:11:12):
That's good. I just, well, I worry about getting a wrong type of program. It'd be a, a malware or something. Yeah,

Leo Laporte (02:11:18):
Exactly. Exactly. I don't bla very smart. Always be careful. I'm thinking quick photo fighter is the one to go with. At least start with that one.

Caller 8 (02:11:27):
I will give that a try. Thank

Leo Laporte (02:11:29):
You. My pleasure. Thanks for calling Donald. Have a good day. One more. Let's see. Before Dickie D let's go to Redondo beach bill on the line. Hi bill.

Caller 7 (02:11:40):
Hi Leo. Nice talking to you. Been a fan for a while.

Leo Laporte (02:11:43):
Thank you, sir. Thanks for calling.

Caller 7 (02:11:46):
Okay. I have a a windows 10 laptop that keeps going in and out of a brief, slow mode. When I, when I go into, for example, I I'm, I subscribe to the LA times and I bring it up scrolling through the pages. It goes real slow, but when I'm in a PDF inside, you know, that is not, not on the internet that is in it, it scrolls at, you know, normal rate fast. I have real fast internet. I have the one gigabyte and I have an extender near my room. I'm just wondering if you, if you could have any hints or any idea of what it might be causing my be causing this, you

Leo Laporte (02:12:31):
Know, we, we usually think of webpages as being, and kinda lightweight. Don't take up a lot of CPU, but they actually can be very hard to display, especially with images. Does it, is the PDF have a lot of images or is it just text?

Caller 7 (02:12:45):
Well, you know, you know, when you go, do you subscribe to any, any

Leo Laporte (02:12:50):
Newspaper? Yeah. And you download the newspaper a PDF. And so you're saying when you download the newspaper a PDF, it's fine.

Caller 7 (02:12:56):
Well, no, when I, when I'm looking at the, at the newspaper, I click on the, you know, it comes on the mail, I click on it, it opens up the paper, I guess it downloads it. Yeah. Yeah. It downloaded. Or, or, okay.

Leo Laporte (02:13:10):
So it could be, it could be, it could be your internet, although it sounds like it's fast. And is it anything else that it seems slow on or just when you're web browsing?

Caller 7 (02:13:18):
When I, when, whenever I'm doing anything on the web, you know, I, I do, I do. I do music things on the web and I go through this website where,

Leo Laporte (02:13:28):
What, what browser what browser are you using?

Caller 7 (02:13:32):
You know, I'm, I'm using Chrome. I also have edge in edge in there.

Leo Laporte (02:13:36):
So there's a couple of things I would try. It may be that your internet, you have fast internet, but it may be that your particular place you're sitting is not very fast. Go closer to the wifi router and just see if it's faster, but it, if it's not

Caller 7 (02:13:51):
Okay,

Leo Laporte (02:13:53):
I shouldn't recommend this, but I'm gonna,

Caller 7 (02:13:59):
I'm

Leo Laporte (02:13:59):
Done put an ad blocker on there. Especially newspaper sites, they are loaded with ads and the ads are all coming from different servers and the newspaper page won't load until the ad loads. So you're sitting there waiting, they call it first draw. The first draw of the webpage should happen within just a couple of seconds. And then, and then it, it can load the ads later, but it, sometimes it's not well designed. So couple of things you could try. One thing you might try is there's a standalone windows app for the LA times. See if it works in the standalone app better, that's still coming from the web, but it's not using your browser. But the other thing is you might want to try a ad blocker. My suggestion is don't use it on sites. You wanna help support cuz you're, you're basically taking away their revenue, but the one to put on Chrome or Firefox is called you block origin, not you block you block origin.

Leo Laporte (02:15:04):
Origin's really important. There are copycats. It's a Chrome extension. It's two words. It's from a guy called gore hill. So you'll, if you see who the, who wrote it, G O R H I L L. It's an ad blocker. Okay. If it speeds things up, then it is that, you know, there's, these ads are slow. Sometimes the server they're getting them from are slow that can really speed things up. It also makes these pages go from a hundred megabytes worth of crap to four mega by of the stuff you wanna read. But just remember when you're using it. You're you're, you're not, you're not financially supporting now you pay for the LA times, right. You're subscribing. So yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I think it's okay to use you block origin on the LA times. So see, cuz that turns off a lot of stuff that can really slow a page down. If it's not your internet, if you block origin helps. That's what was going on? Leo Laport, the tech guy.

Caller 7 (02:15:58):
Okay. All right.

Leo Laporte (02:15:59):
Hey, thank you. I appreciate it. I, I, I, you know, look, we're about to run a bunch of ads. I hate to say block ads cuz that's everything I do is ad supported, but sometimes these pages deserve it because they're so bogged down. You, you do pay for the LA times. So I, I feel like ethically, it's fine to run an ad blocker on the LA times and see if that helps. No,

Caller 7 (02:16:24):
I, I, I thought that, you know, you could go the setting somewhere that would block ads. 

Leo Laporte (02:16:30):
No that Chrome, no Chrome doesn't want to cause Google makes its money on ads.

Caller 7 (02:16:38):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (02:16:38):
So Chrome will never block ads.

Caller 7 (02:16:41):
Okay.

Leo Laporte (02:16:41):
So, but, but U block is really, really good. U block origin has a ton of settings. Ignore those. Just use it as it comes out of the box. It's free. There's no charge. Gore hill just hates ads.

Caller 7 (02:16:56):
Okay. Okay. Cause you, you know, I have, I have a, a Samsung tablet. I have no problem with that.

Leo Laporte (02:17:02):
Oh, that's a good sign. That means it's not your web, right. Yeah. Right,

Caller 7 (02:17:06):
Right, right, right. And the speed when I do a speed test on my iPhone is like at least a hundred a hundred. Oh

Leo Laporte (02:17:15):
Yeah. So it shouldn't. Yeah. It should be running fine. Yeah. You have plenty of speed.

Caller 7 (02:17:20):
Okay. Okay. So do

Leo Laporte (02:17:22):
Take a look at the windows app. Just, that might be a way of seeing if it's your browser. That's the problem.

Caller 7 (02:17:30):
Okay. Okay. So, okay. All right. Well I'll, I'll do that cause I'm, I'm, you know, I just switched to the one gigabite system. Cause I, I had the 400 man. I thought, well, maybe this is, and it's not that

Leo Laporte (02:17:44):
Well, it's a gigabit at the router. You said you have some extenders they're they're cutting it in half. So that's why I'm saying get next to the router and see how it works.

Caller 7 (02:17:55):
Yeah. I, some, I, I even connected her ethernet in the router and when, when I get, when I do that, no problem, you know?

Leo Laporte (02:18:04):
Oh, oh, hold on. When you connect it to ethernet, it's fine.

Caller 7 (02:18:08):
Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:18:09):
Oh then it's then it is dead. Definitely the extenders. So here's the problem with extenders. They cut in half your bandwidth and the farther you get the worse it's gonna get. If you really wanna fix that, get a mesh router system. Like Euro.

Caller 7 (02:18:26):
That that's what I got. That's what I got.

Leo Laporte (02:18:28):
Oh, that's not an extender. That's an all right. Yeah. So that's really, but that's a big deal. If the Ethernet's fast enough, then it is the wifi.

Caller 7 (02:18:39):
Okay. Hmm. Okay. Huh.

Leo Laporte (02:18:41):
So then, so it's just, you've got a bad con bad connectivity where you are, or you know, where you're sitting. You said it's pretty distant from the router. Do you have a Euro beacon near you?

Caller 7 (02:18:55):
I have a, with a, an extender. I think it's a beacon. I think it

Leo Laporte (02:18:59):
Is. If it comes from Euro, it's a beacon. I

Mikah Sargent (02:19:01):
Was just thinking windows does have a setting in your networking that it's a toggle between a metered connection and a non metered connection. You may check to see if that got to on for whenever you're using your wifi network versus when you're plugged in with ethernet. Cuz I had that turned on on my window, my laptop and that slows it down and it slows it down. Yeah. Cause it treats it almost like you're connected to a cell phone or something like

Leo Laporte (02:19:25):
That. Yeah. Because it assumes you're paying by the bit and exactly. Don't they don't wanna.

Caller 7 (02:19:29):
So where is that in the network settings? 

Mikah Sargent (02:19:31):
We'll include a link in the show notes at 

Leo Laporte (02:19:32):
Techguylabs.com. It's in the network settings. Yeah. It's network settings.

Caller 7 (02:19:37):
Okay. I appreciate it. Cause I'm I don't wanna throw this out the window. I mean

Leo Laporte (02:19:43):
I'm I bet you're tempted. No, if you got the Euro and you have a gigabit wifi, you should be just fine.

Caller 7 (02:19:50):
Yeah. I mean I, but

Leo Laporte (02:19:51):
The fact that it's fine when you can. I wish you told me that up front because then we know it's not, it's not the ads or anything cuz it works fine when you're wired. It's the, so now we know it's your wifi.

Caller 7 (02:20:02):
Okay. Okay. All right. Well, okay. Let me, let me try that, that show notes. Right? Take blood. Okay. Absolutely. Yeah. And by the way, I used to do your job, you know, tech support for Xerox and they used to have printers, you know?

Leo Laporte (02:20:17):
Oh God, you hated those calls. Didn't you love to hear percussion. Love to hear Dick D Bartolo, Mads Madis writer wearing his Ukraine Hawaiian shirt. It's in blue and gold. Very nice. Is that why you're wearing that?

Dick DeBartolo (02:20:37):
I'm wearing it because it's 72 degrees in New York city.

Leo Laporte (02:20:41):
What? It's 59 in Northern California. Oh

Dick DeBartolo (02:20:44):
My gosh. Oh my gosh.

Leo Laporte (02:20:47):
Well that's great. Spring has sprung in Manhattan. It has now do you look for the Robin red breast? Cuz when I was a kid in new England, you know

Dick DeBartolo (02:20:55):
What I already last year I, I posted the 82nd Robin of summer and said you're pretty late. But this time in February Robin flew into the backyard and I said to stay there, I I'll get you bread. And my camera, he stayed.

Leo Laporte (02:21:13):
Oh

Dick DeBartolo (02:21:14):
So

Leo Laporte (02:21:14):
That's awesome. So yeah. So it's spring in the Disneyland. Absolutely. Dick is of course world famous is mad. Magazine's maddest writer for more than five decades. But in all of that time, what very few people know he collected gizmos, gadgets, oddball, GIM cracks, and G jaws. And he, he has them all ready at hand to share with us right now. He is our GIW.

Dick DeBartolo (02:21:47):
Okay. You're not gonna round. You're gonna run out and buy this.

Leo Laporte (02:21:51):
Oh, come on. All

Dick DeBartolo (02:21:52):
Right. Well you might, you know what? Don't when COVID go put it past, goes away when COVID goes away and you start having parties again, maybe.

Leo Laporte (02:22:02):
Okay. So

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:03):
About a year ago we talked about the carrot drink master. Yes. Which was like a ke machine. It would make alcohol, alcohol

Leo Laporte (02:22:11):
Instead of coffee. It made beverages. Adult beverages. Yes. Yes.

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:15):
So for some reason, just when two companies jump into this, carig in December announces, they're shutting down the system and you can get your money back

Leo Laporte (02:22:28):
Really on. Why

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:29):
Did

Leo Laporte (02:22:29):
You yes. Wait a minute. Like, was this a subscription?

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:33):
No, no. But they

Leo Laporte (02:22:34):
Figured people, oh, they're not gonna make the pods.

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:37):
Yeah. Not gonna make the pods. They're

Leo Laporte (02:22:39):
The machines pod Kapos anymore. So what would you, would you buy a margarita pod? What would,

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:44):
Yeah. Well, you know what? The pods, I, I think carig was making their own, but now black and Decker. No, I'm sorry. Black plus Decker

Leo Laporte (02:22:56):
Has,

Dick DeBartolo (02:22:57):
Has announced the Bev. Okay. So the Bev is an automatic drink maker that uses the brei and pods, but it's at a lower price point. Now this is I,

Leo Laporte (02:23:10):
Well, wait a minute though. So these pods are not gonna be discontinued. No. They're like K cuts for booze.

Dick DeBartolo (02:23:19):
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As a matter of fact, this unit is not even on the market yet. It's coming out in June.

Leo Laporte (02:23:24):
The pods are called artesian, cuz it's like exactly. Your bar and it's Artes artisan. Yeah.

Dick DeBartolo (02:23:31):
And, and Barian actually makes their own drink make, oh that I, I think is like 450 bucks or something.

Leo Laporte (02:23:39):
You know, how hard is it just to pour some booze into a glass, come

Dick DeBartolo (02:23:42):
On. You know what I think it's for the mixed drinks, it needs, you know, a little bit of lime, a little bit of something else, a tiny bit of this, all of that would be in the capsule. If you don't have a bitters collection

Leo Laporte (02:23:56):
Then this.

Dick DeBartolo (02:23:56):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. But Leo, you know me and and lights, this one has party mode.

Leo Laporte (02:24:04):
What you mean the black plus Decker with party mode

Dick DeBartolo (02:24:09):
With party mode. So the way it works is as you're making a drink, yes. Each bottle lights up. Yes. As the liquor for the drink is needed. But if you just want it around, then you're not mixing drinks. You can put it in party mode and the bottles will rotate. Oh, so

Leo Laporte (02:24:29):
You do attach full size alcohol bottles to it. That, that

Dick DeBartolo (02:24:35):
Leo that's, what's different about this. And I think this is a better idea. 

Leo Laporte (02:24:39):
So this is like a drink robot. Almost the

Dick DeBartolo (02:24:41):
Pods just have the extra

Leo Laporte (02:24:42):
Stuff you have. They got the bitters or the lime or

Dick DeBartolo (02:24:45):
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Now, if you want uniformity, you buy your own uniform bottles and transfer the liquid. Very boot.

Leo Laporte (02:24:55):
It's actually quite pretty. It looks like my soda screen. Yeah,

Dick DeBartolo (02:24:59):
Yeah, yeah. But if you wanna use it directly outta the bottle, you just lower the straw into the actual bottle. So you can start with a mocktail which will not add any alcohol at all. And then you can do mild strong or let me fall over in the next five minutes. I don't think they call it that on the machine. It

Leo Laporte (02:25:19):
Probably, this seems to me like it's a very bad idea.

Dick DeBartolo (02:25:22):
I dunno.

Leo Laporte (02:25:24):
I mean, I don't know. It seems like it encourages consumption. You

Dick DeBartolo (02:25:29):
Know what

Mikah Sargent (02:25:30):
I mean? What is an alcohol company to do, but encourage,

Leo Laporte (02:25:32):
I guess it's their job. Well, black plus

Dick DeBartolo (02:25:35):
Decker

Mikah Sargent (02:25:35):
Black plus Decker. Yeah. They should be encouraging vacuuming

Leo Laporte (02:25:39):
Busters, you know? I mean, Okay, interesting.

Dick DeBartolo (02:25:44):
It'll say don't drink and use your bus duster.

Leo Laporte (02:25:47):
Yeah. That's right. No, I think you were right when you said Leo's not gonna buy that. Cause I'm not a big drinker. I'm not. And

Dick DeBartolo (02:25:53):
No, if you, if you are a really a real party person, it also, if you're a show off, I like this is

Leo Laporte (02:25:59):
Yes. You know what I, when I show off, I show off by doing tricks with the martini shaker and the bottles and I throw 'em in the air. I'm the attraction. Not some machine.

Dick DeBartolo (02:26:12):
Exactly. Yes. And I was there when you did that lemon and that line thing and have a heel.

Leo Laporte (02:26:18):
Yeah. Well,

Dick DeBartolo (02:26:19):
Yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:26:20):
Okay. I'm gonna just have to get a better knife. That's all

Dick DeBartolo (02:26:22):
I'm saying. I say what drink calls for a pint of blood, because stop it.

Leo Laporte (02:26:27):
That's a bloody Mary as everyone looks,

Dick DeBartolo (02:26:29):
Oh, that's very good. A bloody Leo. Oh,

Leo Laporte (02:26:33):
Kids, kids don't drink. It's a bad idea. It's a bad habit. But if you're already a drunk black and Decker, The Barisan oh no, it's not the Baris. That's

Dick DeBartolo (02:26:45):
Another nothing to do with the yeah.

Leo Laporte (02:26:47):
And and definitely not the drink works from keg. That's really? No. Yeah. I wonder why they stopped. Do you think it was just not a good market?

Dick DeBartolo (02:26:55):
It's kind of, you know what I, I thought it was kind of strange because black PLA is just getting into that business. I know. So I'm much, you not sure why,

Leo Laporte (02:27:06):
If you want to get a link to this and more information video from no, you didn't do a video for oh no.

Dick DeBartolo (02:27:12):
I, I did not go. That doesn't exist for me yet.

Leo Laporte (02:27:15):
Oh yeah. You could.

Dick DeBartolo (02:27:16):
I mean, I'm not a get one. Anyway. They said you want one? I'm gonna say, how much is, can you $299? Yeah, no.

Leo Laporte (02:27:24):
Although it's cheaper than getting a bartender for the night, I guess. So, you know? Yeah, yeah. Go to GI whiz.biz. That's his website G I ZW I Z dot B Iz while you're, if you wanna see the bartender thing go to click the button that says the GIW visits, the tech guy, but there's lots of other wonderful stuff. It's a wonderful, amazing place to go, including the things Dick shows on world news. Now you should bring this to world news. Now that'd be kind of interesting on ABC. Yeah. the, what the heck is a contest, which you know, is relatively new. It's the staples. Oh, oh, I shouldn't have said that. Ooh. Oh, I gave it away. No, it's not that, but if, if you can identify it, be in running, running for a autograph copy of mad magazine, actually you don't even have to know what it is if you get it wrong, but you're funny. You make Dick laugh, then you get an autograph copy too. So

Dick DeBartolo (02:28:15):
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Leo Laporte (02:28:18):
What heck is it@giwhiz.biz? Don't forget. Dick has a great podcast every week with Chad Johnson, gizwiz.tv. Thank you, Dickie D thank you, buddy. See you next week. Have a great day. Thank you too. To Mike as Sergeant very welcome tech guy, two every Saturday doing the thing. He also will be putting all those links up@techguylabs.com audio and video from the show after the fact as well. Thanks to professor Laura, our musical director, some great choices there. Thanks to Kim sheer, our phone angel. Most of all, thanks to you cuz without you, there would be no tech guy or two. We'll be back next time. I hope you will too. To talk about tech, to ask your questions, make some suggestions and actually if you if you have any suggestions for any of our callers today who maybe we didn't help, you could call next time.

Leo Laporte (02:29:20):
Thank you very much. Lee port, the tech guy as always have a great geek week. Take care. Well, that's it for the tech guy show for today. Thank you so much for being here and don't forget. Twit T W I T it stands for This Week in Tech. You'll find it at twit.tv, including the podcasts for the show. We talk about windows on windows, weekly, Macintosh a Mac, great weekly iPads, iPhones, apple watches on iOS, today's security and security. Now, I mean, I can go on and on and on. And of course the big show every Sunday afternoon, this week in tech, you'll find it all at twit TV and I'll be back next week with another great tech guy show. Thanks for joining me. We'll see you next time.