The Tech Guy Episode 1875
Please be advised this transcript is AI-generated and may not be word for word. Time codes refer to the approximate times in the ad-supported version of the show.
... (00:00:02):
Podcasts. You love
... (00:00:04):
From people you trust.
... (00:00:07):
This
... (00:00:08):
Is TWiT.
Leo Laporte (00:00:11):
Hi, this is Leo Laporte and this is my tech guy podcast. This show originally aired on the premier networks on Saturday, March 12th, 2022. Join me and Mikah Sargant for episode 1875. Enjoy
Leo Laporte (00:00:29):
No ads, just the content. That's what you get when you join club TWiT, you even get extras like TWiT. Plus our new bonus feed just for members and exclusive access to the club. Twit discord community. Join now for just $7 a month and support TWiT. As we continue to create topnotch podcasts you expect and deserve just getting started. So be one of the first to join. As we build club TWiT from the ground up, you could be an early member. Go to twi.tv/club TWiT to learn more and sign up now. Thanks. Well, Hey, Hey. Hey, how are you today? Leo Laporte here, the tech guy, time to talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography. We got your smart phones. We got your smart watches. We got all that jazz. 88 88. Ask Leo, say hello to tech guy two.
Mikah Sargent (00:01:15):
Hello,
Leo Laporte (00:01:15):
Mr. Mikah Sargent in the house, helping us out here on a fine spring day. Dare I say spring? I think it's spring.
Mikah Sargent (00:01:24):
Spring has sprung. Yeah,
Leo Laporte (00:01:25):
It's snowing in some parts of the country, but that's, you know, what is it in like a lion out like a lamb? Did you ever say that in Missouri?
Mikah Sargent (00:01:32):
No, because it's, it's in like a lion out like a lamb every day. You
Leo Laporte (00:01:36):
Just
Mikah Sargent (00:01:36):
Never know what you, you never know what you going get Missouri. Weather's like a box of chocolate.
Leo Laporte (00:01:44):
Well, I hope everyone is staying cozy and comfy. We are here to talk high tech. The phone number is eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo. Mikah is an expert in all things tech, especially in iOS Mac OS. Although you have a blue Alcon Tara clad surface laptop that you call Elvis
Mikah Sargent (00:02:06):
Elvis. Good old Elvis
Leo Laporte (00:02:08):
Blue weight, Elvis. So windows, you're probably more of a windows expert these days than I am. I'm kind of, I'm kind of done.
Mikah Sargent (00:02:16):
You've got Lennox covered. I've got Macs and win and windows covered. Can
Leo Laporte (00:02:20):
You done with windows, right? Oh man. Is it just a nasty windows world out there?
Leo Laporte (00:02:28):
Anyway, 88, mostly cuz of, you know, bad guys making it, making it nasty. 88, 88 ask Leo is the phone number. If you want to talk high tech 88, 8 8 2 7 5 5 3 6. That's toy. Anywhere in the to Canada, we have a website. Cuz what kind of tech guys would we be if we didn't have a website? I mean, come on man. That's tech guy labs.com and that's free to all and sundry, no need to make a, you know, an account. If we did that, then we'd have to have all those cookie announcements and the GDPR announcements and all that's silly. Is it getting worse with the cookie announcements? I think it's getting worse now. I think
Mikah Sargent (00:03:10):
More sites are doing it cuz they feel like they have to or, or else
Leo Laporte (00:03:13):
More than just that. You'll see our, our site tech eye labs.com has a little tiny banner that says yeah, we use cookies. So does almost everybody just say, okay, okay. That's my being pish, which I probably shouldn't be more and more. You see whole sites with like the whole front page is a cookie banner that you can't even get to the site. And then there's, and it's a it's paragraphs of explanation. And instead of just saying, oh, okay. They say, okay, which cookies control cookies. You have to do all this setting. And guess what? Here's a little tip. You know how they keep track of what your preferences are.
Mikah Sargent (00:03:51):
It's a cookie, it's a
Leo Laporte (00:03:52):
Cookie. So there's nothing wrong with cookies saying nothing wrong. We are up. We are in topsy turvy world where cookies are bad, but NFTs. Oh, they're fine. Oh my
Mikah Sargent (00:04:09):
Word, I love there's that site NFTs or the, the web three is going well or something like that. Web three is going great. Do
Leo Laporte (00:04:21):
Com it that's sarcasm.
Mikah Sargent (00:04:22):
Yes. It is a siteful of all the nonsense web three things that are going on, including NFTs.
Leo Laporte (00:04:29):
And of course you know, a lot of the latest news is how people are being scammed by NFTs. You know, it's a real scam. Did you know that there is a law saying you cannot, if you're an internet service provider, you cannot charge people. You cannot force people to rent your equipment. This is, did you know that?
Mikah Sargent (00:04:56):
I didn't know that there was a log. Yeah, it's against
Leo Laporte (00:04:58):
The
Mikah Sargent (00:04:58):
Law. I never do use the, the thing,
Leo Laporte (00:05:02):
But yeah, Congress passed a law banning monthly rental fees for broadband modems provided to consumers, even when consumers were not using that equipment, cuz they had already purchased their own modems. In fact, which is my advice. All you have to do is a little math, 10 bucks a month, $120 a year. You could see, you know, in a year or two, you're gonna pay for your own cable modem and it'll be more modern. It'll be better. But, but there'd be no point in doing it. If you didn't take the fee off, right. Cuz then you double dipping. You're paying for your own mode and they're renting it to you, which they're, you're not. So Congress has passed a law. In fact frontier communications, our favorite, our favorite cable company was charging a monthly rental fee. Even when consumers weren't using that. Here's oh,
Mikah Sargent (00:05:52):
Was it, was it Congress or was it just the FCC
Leo Laporte (00:05:54):
Congress? Oh, I will tell you the law. If you'd like to know, I would love to know. Yes. It's an actual law in mid let's see federal law, prohibits broadband and TV providers, broadband and TV providers. That's important by the way, for charging rental fees for equipment, customers have provided themselves. Frontier was the worst, but I think they're all doing it's. The communic was an upgrade to the communications act and the FCC did have a six month extension saying you have until December, 2020 to stop charging them for, to be, to stop doing that nasty thing, they're still doing it. The article and consumer reports says you need to enforce this law reports said it asked members about their internet bills and got over three 50 responses. They do the surveys all the time. Some contained allegations, according to some reports that the law was being violated while others state the new statute is being respected.
Leo Laporte (00:06:50):
Many more stories suggest that ISPs dissuade customers from using their own equipment. They either refuse to troubleshoot if you get problems with it's not my fault, man. So customers feel pressured to rent equipment. They would prefer to own. Instead it is not an economical thing to use the cable company's equipment at $10 a month. It's just not, doesn't make sense. Yeah. So stop. And and if they continue to charge you you need to go to the FCC, the F the consumer reports article referred to a filing that they have made with the FCC, including examples of complaints with at and T Comcast, Verizon charter, spectrum frontier, Windstream, and Cox. That seems like a pretty, that's a rogues gallery of internet service providers. So public service announcement, you don't have to pay that fee. You could buy your own and you probably should cuz it, it just doesn't make sense.
Leo Laporte (00:07:49):
Otherwise it's just you're not, it's not a sensible use of your money. Let's see, what else is, I'm trying to avoid the obvious Ukraine stories. There are lots of them. We are fighting with Ukraine. We care about Ukraine and we, our hearts and minds are with you, but you know, life goes on in and elsewhere. In fact, here's some good news. You know, the RNA vaccines that the COVID at vaccines were, you know, mostly they're a variety of COVID vaccines, but the Pfizer and the ion tech Moderna are based on something called M R N a, which is a really interesting technology. Modern has now an plans to develop vaccines against 15 other illnesses using Mr. N a, including dengue Ebola, malaria, and C's predecessor MES the mid east respiratory syndrome.
Leo Laporte (00:09:02):
RNA messenger. RNA is a really interesting idea. You know I, I was talking to Amy Webb. She was on coast to coast, our good friend, Amy Webb, the futurist. And she said she was on coast coast. Somebody calls middle of the night as it is, as one does in the middle of the night called the radio show and say, I'm not gonna get the, the vaccine, cuz it's unproven technology. It's, I'm afraid it's gonna change my DNA. And she said, oh no, no, no, no, here's the problem. It's like you were thrown into a tennis match, no one ever showed you how to swing a racket. Your body doesn't know how to fight. COVID RNA just teaches you doesn't change your DNA. It just teaches your immune system. This thing exists. And here's how you play the game.
Leo Laporte (00:09:50):
It's such an interesting technology. And the reason I mentioned it, it's very high tech because it requires computer are analysis of the G the DNA, the genetics of this virus or the, the spike proteins of the virus, not the DNA. And and, and, and apparently we can do this genome sequencing quickly. They did it over a weekend for COVID over a weekend, and now they can do RNA vaccines for a lot larger set of illnesses. This is the quote RNA vaccines are essentially plug and play. You can change the part of the RNA that encodes the protein, plugging in new codes, specific to the virus. We wanna protect against BA a Bing BA boom, bobs, your uncle. They're working on HIV. They're working on tuberculosis, anything's viral malaria, and they aim to have vaccines for all 15 path paths in clinical trials by 2025.
Leo Laporte (00:10:49):
Actually they've been doing HIV for a while. That started human trials last year. Very interesting. Sometimes technology gives as well as takes. We gotta mention both, right. Alright. I'll mention one Ukraine story, the international corporation for assigned names, names and numbers, which is the, the, the internet body, the non-government internet body that keeps track of IP address in names. When you register your domain name, ICAN runs the big servers, the 13 canonical servers, they call 'em that run the internet. And the folks in in Ukraine said, could you please turn off those servers for Russia? I can. Anne's response was interesting. They said, no, that's not how it works. You know, Russia was in fact for a long time through the UN trying to shut down icons. I can't saying it's run by the Americans and it's a, you know, it's a arm of the Americans and we, we don't think the Americans should have run the internet.
Leo Laporte (00:11:55):
So I can't said, look, it's important for us to be completely independent of politics. And just that system works. You know, you guys work it out amongst yourselves, but there are internet service providers. There are name cheap as one, for instance, that won't sell domain names now to a Russian organization. So Russia says, well, we're gonna to make our own, this is my chance to do Russian accent, the Russian accent, we're gonna make our own, they're gonna make their own servers, their own domain servers. And and, and completely bypassed the west. They're gonna make their own certificates. You know how, when you're on a secure site, their certificate, well, that's one thing the certificate authority is saying, eh, we don't wanna do business with Russia. So they're gonna, there's one drawback though. You can't use any of the normal browsers, cuz they all have their own certificates store and they don't recognize the Russian certificates.
Leo Laporte (00:12:51):
You can't use Chrome or Firefox or ed J safari. So they're gonna, so you have to use the Russian, the Russian brown, but Yex browser. Good browser. Very nice. Recognize us. Okay. So I think my guess is that will be an excuse not to use those browsers. It been just my guess, even in Russia, actually, there's a lot of he for duck, duck go, I don't know what, how you feel about this. They have said, we're not going to we're gonna lower the search rankings. Duck dot go is an alternative to Google search of privacy, focused alternative to Google search. We're gonna lower the search rankings for Russian disinformation. People are upset. They're upset. They say, well, no, a search engine should be agnostic. I don't know how I come down on this one. Search engines, judge all the time. Whether a site is good or not Google all the time cuts out spam sites. For instance, that's normal. That's you kind of want them to do it. You want to get the right results, the results you want, but maybe you want Russian us information. That's the question. I guess 88 88. Ask Leo. We could talk about that. 88, 8 8 2 7 5 5 3 6. Coming up Scott Wilkinson home theater guru. We'll talk with Johnny Jed about travel D de Bartolo with gizmos and your calls. Next.
Mikah Sargent (00:14:26):
It was interesting duck deco
Leo Laporte (00:14:28):
Doing. I think they did the right thing. That's what browser search engines do all, all the time.
Mikah Sargent (00:14:32):
What what's interesting about it is that the European union has been in all of them to do this anyway. Right. So duck doco was kind of just joining all of the other ones, Google
Leo Laporte (00:14:43):
They're
Mikah Sargent (00:14:43):
All doing sanctions from the EU. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:14:45):
Well this is the thing is that people thought, oh, well at least duck doco. Won't do it. It's mostly people who want Russian information to be seen. Exactly
Mikah Sargent (00:14:56):
Honest. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:14:58):
They call it the, the woke search engine. Okay. That's a code. That's a different, there's
Mikah Sargent (00:15:03):
A difference between like wanting the, the true speech out there versus just, oh yeah. Why, why do you, why would you encourage FIEs?
Leo Laporte (00:15:13):
Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:15:35):
Yeah. I mean, there's a good argument also that you know, you should be able to choose, see what you see, what you want. I mean, it's not, I don't think it's actually hiding them. I think it's lowering the ranking. Which is a good, I think it decent compromise, you know, know search engines all the time deprecate sites that have bad quality results. So it's not unheard of for a search engine to do that. You wouldn't want a search engine that gave you every ex match. Maybe you would, maybe you would, but even duck, duck go. Never did that. Cuz there's cuz it it's actually a big problem with gaming search engines. I think, I mean a lot of the Google results suck now because of people trying to game Google.
Mikah Sargent (00:16:20):
Exactly.
Leo Laporte (00:16:21):
So I don't know. It's an inter it's an conundrum. We'll probably talk about it tomorrow on TWiT probably. Oh I forgot to do the meta employees getting to do their own laundry. That's a good story. I'll get to that. The phone's ringing. Can, can you, can, can you get that?
Leo Laporte (00:16:43):
Can you,
Leo Laporte (00:16:43):
Can you get that phone? That the phone's ringing Kim? I'll get it. I'll get it. Okay. Kim Scheff I'll I'll make sure I get it. Hi Kim Scher. Hi. Good to see you. You too. Welcome the show. Welcome to you. Get here before I did so you should welcome me. I know. Welcome. Welcome to your own studio. Thank you. Thank you. It's nice to be here. You did give Michael A. Little heart attack, but it's okay. He would've been fine. He would've been fine. The radio audience has no idea, but I pulled up seconds before the show began. You did? I said he's gonna have to run. I did not. I don't like to run that's undignified. I walked briskly into the studio. Oh yeah. You made it though. The theme song was playing when I came in the door, I admit that's okay. I always wanted, you know, there's a, there's a way you could there was a guy who did this I think it was at his company. He he used Bluetooth and wifi and set it up so that whenever he walked in the door, his theme song would start playing on the speakers in the studio, like dun dun like his theme song,
Kim Schaffer (00:17:50):
Whatever it shall
Leo Laporte (00:17:50):
Be. Yeah. And I thought we could do that because we, you know, you see the employees phones joining the wifi as they, as they approach the studio. Right. Cuz they're all logged into the wifi. That's funny. So our wifi could, you know, knows who's on it. It's as
Kim Schaffer (00:18:04):
Soon as a walk up theme in baseball,
Leo Laporte (00:18:05):
As soon as this saw Kim sheer, what would your theme be that you would play? I T throughout the studios
Kim Schaffer (00:18:10):
You're putting me on the spot.
Leo Laporte (00:18:13):
Mico is probably be that about that TLC song waterfall.
Kim Schaffer (00:18:17):
I don't know the, the song that's in my head right now all the time is this fancy like
Leo Laporte (00:18:22):
Fancy perfect.
Kim Schaffer (00:18:23):
It's and it's about taking your girl on a date to Applebees.
Leo Laporte (00:18:28):
Oh wow. It's very
Kim Schaffer (00:18:29):
Fancy it's country. It sort of, if you wanna call it that, but it's just one of those catchy tunes it's
Leo Laporte (00:18:34):
In my, I, I might set this up. We have speakers throughout the building. That would be really cool that your theme song plays as you enter the door. I think that'd be great. Plus applause of course for me. Who should I talk to?
Kim Schaffer (00:18:48):
I'm gonna say that common theme today. We'll be talking about the apple event. So let's go to Kevin. Oh, the
Leo Laporte (00:18:54):
Apple event. Yeah. You forgot about, forgot about that.
Kim Schaffer (00:18:57):
I was wondering Kevin in Las Vegas.
Leo Laporte (00:18:58):
I like to save it. Oh, hi Kevin. Thank you. Thank you, Kim. I like to save it for for our callers. Right? Welcome to the show, Kevin.
Caller 1 (00:19:08):
Hi. Yes, Leo. It so good to be with you. I've been follow you since tech TV days.
Leo Laporte (00:19:14):
I remember those days, dimly dimly, but I do.
Caller 1 (00:19:18):
In fact, I met you at a meeting greet in the, at a Mac world at, in San Francisco in the before times, years.
Leo Laporte (00:19:25):
Oh wow. Yeah.
Caller 1 (00:19:27):
Fun. Yeah. And I wanted to go to the, the studio to see you make Mac break weekly. But of course, when I was making plans for that,
Leo Laporte (00:19:37):
Then this thing called COVID hit. Yeah. Someday we'll reopen the studios.
Caller 1 (00:19:42):
And then I, since then retired to Las Vegas. Nice. So I moved out of the bay area. So it's been wonderful here, but I have some questions about you, the new fat boy, which I'm gonna get.
Leo Laporte (00:19:54):
That's what I call it. The Mac studio, which is a fat Mac mini
Caller 1 (00:20:00):
And cuz I have a 2008 Mac pro tower cheese GRA which
Leo Laporte (00:20:07):
2008. Wow. So that isn't that's Intel, but it's, you know, not so that's the thing, everybody who uses a Mac should realize now is that apple has replaced all, but the Mac pro Intel version with its own Silicon, which is in almost every respect superior. In fact, it's interesting. These new Mac studios are actually faster than the old than your cheese grater, old Mac pro they're faster than the latest Mac pro they're very fast.
Caller 1 (00:20:34):
Oh yeah. And I can't run any of the new software. I'm still on El cap tan.
Leo Laporte (00:20:37):
Well that's the other problem is yeah, you can't. Yeah. You need to get to Monterey.
Caller 1 (00:20:42):
I can't upgrade a lot of the software that I use. So that's another reason. I mean it's chugging along, but it's like,
Leo Laporte (00:20:48):
This is a great time. I mean the, the, the, basically what apple has done and I really should have talked about this to begin with. I didn't wanna be very ish is change its product line in a significant way. Let me take a break. We're gonna do Scott Wilkinson stay tuned and I'll answer your question, Leo. Laporte the, The thick Mac. So I think you're smart to say this is the time it has been 14 good years with your old Mac pro that's a long time to run a computer. What are you looking at?
Caller 1 (00:21:27):
Well, I'm gonna get the ma the max. I think the ultras are probably a little,
Leo Laporte (00:21:30):
The ultra is high, high, high. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we bought one of each, so I'll, I'll be able to compare them, but I think for most uses, you know, look, you're you're, this is so much faster than your Mac pro.
Caller 1 (00:21:43):
Oh yeah. Yeah, definitely. Well, I'm a retired musician from the bay area, but I'm gonna be probably working to some extent part-time while I'm here. Because I, I, you know, musicians never really retire. Yeah. So I definitely wanna use logic pro and, and some other
Leo Laporte (00:22:01):
Nice.
Caller 1 (00:22:02):
So
Leo Laporte (00:22:03):
These will run so beautifully, even the M one pro. So even the original M one actually would, could run circles with logic pro you know, dozens and dozens of instruments all at the same time, which is of course the big challenge. And so this should be even better. You got more memory, faster memory, faster SSDs. And of course, a lot more horsepower
Caller 1 (00:22:28):
You, well, the question I was gonna ask on the air was about the studio display. Whether I should get that or
Leo Laporte (00:22:35):
Look, that's a great question. Do you, you could, if you wish you could hang on, otherwise, I'll just answer it on the air when we're done with Scott. How about
Caller 1 (00:22:43):
I can hang on.
Leo Laporte (00:22:43):
Yeah. Okay. Good. Cause that's a, that's actually a very good question.
Caller 1 (00:22:48):
Okay.
Leo Laporte (00:22:48):
Hang on. It'll just be a few minutes, cuz it's time for the old hippie himself. Hey Scott. Hey Leo. Hello Scott in his Hey hippie. How are you? Mikah is here. Wow. What do you wanna talk about Mr. Scott? I got a listener question. I like it. I like it much more to the trip. What is hip this guy right here, Mr. Scott Wilkinson our home theater geek he's contributor tech hive.com joins us every week to talk about big screen TVs and surround sound and like, hello Scott. Hello Leo. So we were talking apple, you know, we'll talk more in a little bit. In fact Kevin wants to know more about Apple's new monitor. Some experts were surprised that it was not a mini L E D display and and we were, we were off the air just now talking about, are there shortages of the components necessary to make many LEDs? And there's been a lot of speculation about that. And that's that one of the reasons why apple might not be doing for instance, many LEDs on its lap laptops that might not be doing many LEDs on some of the iPads, the higher end stuff all has mini L E what is mini L E D?
Scott Wilkinson (00:24:12):
Well, mini L E D refers to the backlight. It all L C D displays have a backlight and it consists of L LEDs. And the question is how many LEDs are there in the backlight and with regular LEDs, there's maybe hundreds with many led D there's thousands. So they're smaller obviously cuz of the name and there are a bunch more of them behind the L C D panel, which actually forms the image. Now this chip shortage thing. I, you know, I wondered about that because normally when you think of a chip shortage, you think of CPUs or GPU or other, you know, processor, chips. But what we were talking about off before we got on the air was the substrate. That is the material, the, the Silicon onto which the many, many LEDs are placed. Now, if there's a shortage of that material, then yes, there would be, it would be more difficult to make many L E D backlights for the apple display or any TV that uses mini LEDs, such as from TCL high senses. A few other companies make mini L E D back lights for their LCD TVs. And if the substrate is scarce for whatever reason, then yes, it would be more difficult to make. And that may why apple decided not to go with mini L E D.
Leo Laporte (00:25:49):
Yeah. What, what, what do you get when you get mini L E D? What do
Scott Wilkinson (00:25:53):
Well, you get, you get a more uniform brightness across the screen,
Leo Laporte (00:25:58):
See for TVs that's important. It might even be more important though for computer monitors, right?
Scott Wilkinson (00:26:02):
It might very well be. Yeah. Especially if you're using computer monitor for like video or photo editing. Yeah. you want it to be very uniform, but
Leo Laporte (00:26:14):
If you're looking at a webpage, you don't want dark spots on the webpage cause you don't have back lights' and you know, enough back lights either. I mean nevertheless many LEDs, relatively new to computing, so it's not like we have to have it.
Scott Wilkinson (00:26:30):
No, no, no. And most webpages are pretty bright. Right? I mean, so, and the brighter it is, the less important uniformity
Leo Laporte (00:26:39):
Is. Okay. Okay.
Scott Wilkinson (00:26:40):
Uniformity becomes more obvious when it's dark. So if you're watching a movie, I I'm going back to the home theater example, you're watching a movie and it's an outer space. You know, if, if it's not very uniform, you'll see certain areas of outer space looking a little lighter, I just
Leo Laporte (00:26:57):
Than ordered of course, right before apple announced their new monitor. I a a Dell monitor for my wife, a 20 or 31 inch monitor that. Oh, nice. Yeah, it was very nice. Monitor actually. Is it Dell? No, it's LG. I'm sorry. LG. with HDR.
Scott Wilkinson (00:27:17):
Oh nice. What what's the model?
Leo Laporte (00:27:18):
It was the LG 32 U P 83, a 31 inch class, U H D I PS monitor with AMD free sync D C I P three 95% color GA with HDR, 10 compatibility and USB type C tilt, height pivot stand by the way, $500 compared to three times that for apples monitor that's smaller monitor. But it has HDR, but HDR does not necessarily mean mini L E D but mini L E D would be better. HD would be better with mini L E D.
Scott Wilkinson (00:27:50):
Correct. Because another advantage of mini L E D is if you have what's called local dimming that is different areas behind the screen Brighton or dim, depending on what's on the screen, mini L E D lets you have more zones, more smaller zones. So it's more precise and, and gives you a better, higher contrast, a better quality imaging without haloing. So if you have a very tiny, but very bright thing on a dark background with a regular L E D, you might see a halo around it, or it might be brighter kind of around that very small, bright thing, but with many, many L E D it's much less likely to, to be obvious. And so it's,
Leo Laporte (00:28:36):
You're not a gamer, but for gaming, not just video, but for gaming, I would imagine this is important. In fact, it's interesting because gaming now are start gonna come out with 120 Hertz refresh. Yes. HDR. Yeah. And it makes them very vivid. Very real.
Scott Wilkinson (00:28:53):
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. In fact I was gonna talk about maybe I'll talk about next week. One of our listeners had a question about game, well,
Leo Laporte (00:29:01):
Go ahead. We got, we got three and a half minutes. Is that enough?
Scott Wilkinson (00:29:04):
Yeah, sure. A key 43 from the chat room sent me an email about, about gaming and input lag. And he has an older Visio with an input lag of like 30 milliseconds. And the input lag is the time it takes a display to display something from the time it receives the signal and 30 milliseconds is the maximum. I say that it's appropriate for gaming and he is, he wants to get a new TV. It's also 60 Hertz. And he wants to get a new TV and he's getting an Xbox series X. And I say, and I say, well, the first thing you wanna do is you want to get a TV with lower input lag than 30 milliseconds because 30 milliseconds is marginal. The best ones are now at the 10 millisecond range. And those include LGC one OED Samsung QN, 90 high senses, U eight U eight G are all in the 10 to fifth, 15 millisecond range.
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:02):
The other thing you wanna do definitely is to get a TV that has variable refresh rate or VRR because the Xbox X and these new games that you were just talking about also implement variable refresh rate. So when the action is asked and furious, the, the frame rate, the refresh rate is very high. And when things are kind of more static, it can, it can be lower. And so if the display and the console implement the same type of variable refresh rate, that's gonna really help things a lot. And the Xbox X implements AMD free sync, which one type of variable Rere refreshing.
Leo Laporte (00:30:44):
Yeah. And Vidia has its GS sync. It's G sync. It's the other one free sync,
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:48):
Correct? Correct. But, and the Xbox does not do Invidia
Leo Laporte (00:30:53):
GC. No. Cause it has AMD graphics in it
Scott Wilkinson (00:30:55):
Has AMD graphics in it. So it does free sync. And the good news is that the LGC one and the Amazon Q nine QN 90 and the high sense, eight U eight G all implement free sync. So you want to get a, a TV that has low input lag and has a free sync. If you're gonna get an Xbox 360 and 120 Hertz maximum refresh rate,
Leo Laporte (00:31:19):
You do want that high refresh rate. That makes a big difference of video games anyway. Yep,
Scott Wilkinson (00:31:24):
Yep, yep, absolutely. Yeah. I got all this information@rts.com. They have really good stuff about input lag and variable refresh rate. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:31:33):
Yeah. I I will never live it down because I got our kid PlayStation five and foolishly got him a 60 Hertz TV. Oh. But, but I, But at least in the early games on the PlayStation five, you either would have high refresh rate or 4k. And so I said, oh, well, you don't care because you're gonna be running in 4k. 4K. 60 is better than HD one 20. Am I wrong? Am I crazy?
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:02):
Well
Leo Laporte (00:32:03):
I don't tell me. I don't want know Scott Wilkinson you're the home theater guru, read his stuff@techhive.com. And of course hear him every week here on the tech guy show. We're gonna go back to Kevin and talk about that new apple monitor when we return Leo. Laporte the tech guy, These, this, these two clocks are a little bit different. Oh, well, I'm gonna keep looking
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:41):
At it was my sound any better today?
Leo Laporte (00:32:44):
You sound a little grungy. Do you have original sound turned on?
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:48):
Yeah, I do. I could unplug and replug was
Leo Laporte (00:32:51):
You sound bad? Last it
Mikah Sargent (00:32:52):
Was echoy last
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:53):
Week. You said it, you said it had too much room. So I actually, oh
Leo Laporte (00:32:56):
Yeah. It is better. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That in that regard, it's
Scott Wilkinson (00:32:59):
Better a blanket, a blanket
Leo Laporte (00:33:00):
That made a big difference. Yes. Huge difference. Little blankie is always welcome. Little
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:06):
Blankie. Yeah.
Mikah Sargent (00:33:07):
A little blanky, little
Leo Laporte (00:33:08):
Blanky and a pinky
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:10):
Youy.
Leo Laporte (00:33:11):
No, that did make a big difference. Isn't that interesting boy. That made a huge difference. So it was that door was that door.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:16):
Yeah. And that door is now open what's in there. I don't want people to see it's my closet,
Leo Laporte (00:33:21):
But you got a blankie, so it's okay. Oh, I got
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:23):
A blankie over it, so it's okay. A
Leo Laporte (00:33:24):
Huge difference.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:26):
Good, good. I'm gonna keep experimenting and, and working on my set, but
Leo Laporte (00:33:30):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:32):
But yeah. Well, I want things to, to sound good and look good for those of you who are watching
Leo Laporte (00:33:39):
All yours.
Scott Wilkinson (00:33:41):
Ah, thank you so very much. Let me pull up the chat room. I'm also trying to sit closer to the mic too. Tech Dino. Yes. The blue blanket is, is there. And I like that one a lot. They there's key 43. So you heard my answer there. You had yet more questions than that, but tho that was kind of the basis of, of what I wanted to talk about. You do want get 120 Hertz panel. You want to a TV you want to get one that does variable refresh rate. And if you're getting an Xbox series X, you want one that does am M D free sync and go to ings.com and you'll see a list. You can, you can look for input, lag and blow input. Lag is the other thing you want. And you, you can go to free, go to ings.com and look up input lag, and they'll tell you how they, how they measure it.
Scott Wilkinson (00:34:40):
And they'll give you the list to the TVs, with the lowest input lag. And you can also look on there for VRR variable refresh rate and see which TVs do which one. And I forgot to mention, or didn't have time to mention that these low input lags low input lag times are all with game mode on, in the TV. It's very important to turn game mode on if you're gonna play a game, which bypasses a lot of the processing that the TV does. And, but the difference between the input lag with the game mode on versus off is often amazing, like a factor of 10. So if you have 10 millisecond input lag in game mode, you might have a hundred milliseconds with game mode off. So that's quite
Leo Laporte (00:35:30):
Remarkable. You can tell Michael about that. I don't even know what he's running in as opposed to say cinema or yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Wow. Cinema
Scott Wilkinson (00:35:38):
Mode or any other TV mode, but game mode you'll have, you could have 10 times the input lag. So be, be sure to be in game mode, if you wanna play games,
Mikah Sargent (00:35:49):
Why not just always have that on, what does it do poorly for other why, why is it
Scott Wilkinson (00:35:53):
Well, it, it, it, it bypasses a lot of the other P processing like noise reduction. Ah, got it. It, it, it would also bypass a frame and interpolation, which many people hate, so that wouldn't be a bad thing for many people. But yeah, there are a lot of other processing functions that it bypass that, that with movies would be a good thing. Got it. Let's see here. Ha James VA three. JPX noticed my spinning globe. Yes, that is magnetic levitation.
Leo Laporte (00:36:40):
All right. We'll talk. You wanna stick around to the top?
Scott Wilkinson (00:36:42):
Sure. Happy to
Leo Laporte (00:36:44):
Leo. Laporte the oldest Scott Wilkinson theme. Leo Laporte the tech guy, Kevin very kindly stuck around. And I'm glad you did, cuz I wanted to talk about your question. Kevin mentioned, he's got 2008 Mac pro vintage cheese grater and is now ready to buy a new Mac studio. What was your question though?
Caller 2 (00:37:09):
About the studio
Leo Laporte (00:37:10):
Display? Yeah, this is the new, so first of all, I think it's pretty clear Mikah and I were we're streaming the event apple did on Tuesday. It was pretty clear that and, and subsequent stories have confirmed that apple was replacing the iMac pro and the 27 inch iMac with this new configuration, which is funny, cuz this is what I've been wanting. I've been saying, I don't wanna buy an all in one. I'd like to have him because monitors change and maybe I want to get a better monitor or a different monitor. I don't wanna be stuck with that particular 27 inch 5k monitor as good as it is. And I have one sitting right in front of me from a vintage iMac now. And I think apple realized, yeah, you know what we can make the 24 inch iMac for somebody who wants an absolutely simple streamlined setup, but we can deconstruct the more powerful IMAX, separate the computer from the screen.
Leo Laporte (00:38:08):
And I think that's a much more flexible option. It also makes it easier to make an upgradeable computer or to repair the computer or monitor if they break separately, that kind of thing. You're not out of a computer plus you can use a, an existing monitor. So they created the Mac studio, which is the, basically the guts of the iMac and a separate studio display the studio displays interesting though, because it has the equivalent of an iPhone 11 in it. It's got the, a 13 bionic in it, which is the same as in the iPad. It's the same as in an iPhone 11. It is a very powerful process. Or what does your monitor need that for that remains to be seen. There's only a couple of things that's doing that would use that for one is, Hey, you know who S I R I, so you can talk to the monitor, but of course it's still gonna need a computer to do anything. I think, I don't know. We haven't seen him yet. I'm getting mine on in a couple of weeks.
Mikah Sargent (00:39:03):
Yeah. That's that's the understanding though. And the website actually says you do have to have a competitive back connected to it, so
Leo Laporte (00:39:09):
It's just listening. Okay. And then the other thing it's doing is the center stage feature, which is you see it on some iPads, you see it on the newer Macintosh where the, the camera centers on you and moves around, depending on, you know, what, what is in focus. That's kind of cool and that doesn't need processing to the monitoring that, but I think there's more to this monitor in the long run. The fact that you put that chip in there, unless you just had a warehouse full of them. And he's like, yeah, throw it in, throw it in. But you know, maybe face ID, maybe something else is coming down the road. We don't know
Caller 2 (00:39:43):
That's what I was thinking is face ID would be Possible.
Leo Laporte (00:39:47):
It is. So it's a good monitor. It's an expensive monitor as, as as our all apple monitors it's, it's 1500 bucks. Now that comes with the stand you can for the same actually 1600 bucks for the same price, you can get it without a stand and Mount it on an arm or for $400 more. You can get a swivel arm, probably be smart, not to get the swivel arm, get the visa amount, which means no stand and have a, and buy a $200 arm, which means then you'd have much more flexibility about monitor placement if that was an issue for you. But I think it's a good monitor. It, it also has. It's interesting, a little shelf with, on the stand that's where your Mac studio goes, and that kind of turns it into an iMac. In fact, you, the, the, you can power the monitor from the Mac studio or Mac studio from the monitor either way.
Leo Laporte (00:40:39):
So you only, still only have one plug going into the wall. Right? the, the new monitor does give you a few ports, not probably as many as you might want, if you, you know, bought a, a docking station or something like that. But it's, you know, it's an apple monitor. It's a, it's, it's more, maybe twice as much as a Dell equivalent Dell would be, but it's more tuned to the apple technology. We, I bought one for my wife, cuz she's a very nice person and deserves the very best. So she's getting a new Mac studio and a new monitor to go with it, which will replace an iMac, an you know, not as old as yours, but it 2014 iMac that does not go to Monterey and needs to be updated. So I think it's it. This is very typical of apple. They sell a premium product for people who want to stay in the apple ecosystem. It's actually in a way in atypical, they stop selling monitors for a long time. The cinema display is, was years ago, they stopped selling that they only had recently added the XDR display, the $6,000 monitor. And now they have a $1,500 monitor. It's still 5k, it's retina. It's 51 20 by 86 hundreds, pretty bright it's, it's
Mikah Sargent (00:41:55):
Brighter than quite a few,
Leo Laporte (00:41:57):
Quite a few monitors,
Mikah Sargent (00:41:57):
Similar monitors. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:42:00):
P3, which means it's got the full color range that you want, the GA they call it gamut that you want. So that's, that's nice. It's appropriate for, you said you do for some photography, so it's appropriate ORM. You said you do.
Caller 2 (00:42:14):
Yeah. Music.
Leo Laporte (00:42:15):
Yes. So, but if you were a photographer, this would be a sensible choice. I, I,
Caller 2 (00:42:20):
Well, I'll, I'll probably still do some video editing on some older videos I have. And some, any, anything that comes along now, any work I do now that I'm retired here in Vegas semi retired, not completely retired,
Leo Laporte (00:42:33):
No one ever fully retires these days. Yeah. So the monitor I bought prior to this also has tilt height, pivot it's you know, DC, I P three 95% color gamut HDR, which the apple is not USB type C 550 bucks from Dell and it's 32 inches. It's slightly bigger. So
Mikah Sargent (00:42:52):
It doesn't put out as much power,
Leo Laporte (00:42:54):
Right? You can't, you know, it's not designed to be an all in one in effect. It's not, you know, it's not much of a docking station and it's not gonna, you know, if you know, apple has true tone, this kind of adjusts, and that's probably why the a thirteen's in there as well, it's adjusting to the ambient light so that it kind of, you know, fit it's the ambient light. And it has these extra little, you know, features including a camera, which the Dell does not have. So,
Caller 2 (00:43:22):
And speaker wise, I have an old set of tic Lansings with a Suber, but I was thinking maybe upgrading to a reference monitor. But if these apple speakers would be, you know, they have atmo and everything else with it, you know, they,
Leo Laporte (00:43:38):
They're not gonna sound as good as the Lansings. Let's not go crazy, but they're gonna sound pretty good. I mean, this also confirms my contention that it's the new iMac because the iMac had speakers and a camera. And normally a lot of monitors don't have speakers and cameras. This is making, when you pair this with a Mac studio, now you've got all the features of the iMac.
Mikah Sargent (00:43:57):
In fact, a lot of the rumors rumor mongers, they thought that this was the next iMac. And so a lot of the rumors that went out there about a new iMac, they were confused.
Leo Laporte (00:44:04):
It
Mikah Sargent (00:44:04):
Was actually the studio display the whole time.
Leo Laporte (00:44:06):
Yeah. They were confused. And I like it that they put the studio fits into that little tray. That's kind of elegant, but a lot of times people buy iMac size devices to hide 'em anyway, they don't necessary really have 'em on the desk. You might on this one because of all the ports and because the SD card reader and all of that the studio display has four Thunderbolt, four ports. So actually Thunderbolt three. I apologize. They're not Thunderbolt four.
Mikah Sargent (00:44:31):
Yeah. The whole thing is Thunderbolt three.
Leo Laporte (00:44:33):
That's interesting. That
Mikah Sargent (00:44:34):
Makes it work with the max that apple has available right
Leo Laporte (00:44:37):
Now. Well, four would've too. The real problem is that four chips are very short supply talking about supply shortage. In fact, if you look at companies that are making Thunderbolt four docks like that Cal digit Ts four dock, they can't make enough of them because they just can't get the chips for T4. So while you would prefer a thunder board floor on this apple probably couldn't get the chips, which means maybe next year there'll be a T4 version of this monitor. I wouldn't be surprised. I think I would say by probably my recommendation is not to buy it. You can get something better for us. Get a better camera. That's separate, et cetera. Unless you, you want that iMac experience where it's kind of all kind of elegantly integrated if you're, you know, a typical apple fan.
Caller 2 (00:45:23):
Oh, I am. But, well, you're not making it easy on Off the cliff. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:45:29):
Well, if I were to sell you on it, I would say it's interesting. It has this iOS capable chip in it. I mean, it could be an iPhone if it wanted to be. I don't know if apple will do that. That's a little big to carry
Caller 2 (00:45:44):
The technology down the road
Leo Laporte (00:45:46):
It's possible, but you know, it's always risky to buy something based on technology down the road. You already have very good speakers. So you don't really need the high fidelity six speaker system with four canceling wolfs. Boy, it's a tough one for me too. Leola port the tech guy. I don't know what let's see. It's only one Thunderbolt three and two USBC, which I also think is a little weird, to be honest with you. It's the, but
Mikah Sargent (00:46:13):
If you've got the max studio, then you've got a whole, much, a whole bunch more port. Yeah. But you consider both
Leo Laporte (00:46:19):
It's, it's a weird pairing of this. I, this a 13 and the limited number of port is bizarre. I
Mikah Sargent (00:46:26):
Think that's fair. The, a 13 in the iPhone.
Leo Laporte (00:46:32):
So spend the money. If you got the money you're only gonna save. I would say if you put together, which I did for my wife, this LG monitor, which is equivalently, good monitor, plus a Brio camera plus some speakers. I'm now closer to a thousand bucks. Unfortunately I already bought all that stuff, but I'll just take it from her. We have plenty of uses for it. Yeah. I think it's gonna be a nice elegant look. I even bought her the $400 pivoting
Caller 2 (00:47:00):
Thing. Yeah. Cause I have two other monitors. I actually have a, an RCA TV that's hooked up. I could do that to the HDMI port and I have a Samsung 23 inch she CD, which has been very good. It's a little old, but it's doing well on this DVI. So I'd have to get a DVI to
Leo Laporte (00:47:18):
Okay. If you don't have a monitor, get this monitor. Yeah. This will be better than any of that. Okay. Seriously better. Like significantly better. That's 5k for one thing.
Caller 2 (00:47:29):
Yeah. Okay. Well I appreciate it. Spend
Leo Laporte (00:47:32):
The money, Kevin.
Caller 2 (00:47:33):
Yeah, I got, I got money in my retirement.
Leo Laporte (00:47:35):
There you go. It's it's a, it's only a few hundred bucks more and I think it's gonna be much more interestingly, integrated into the apple. I think it's it's gonna be kind of cool. Don't get the nano texture glass. You don't need that.
Caller 2 (00:47:47):
I I've got a pod. I've got a air bar on pro. I've got,
Leo Laporte (00:47:52):
By the way, home pod is another interesting thing. This has enough. This is more power than an apple TV. This could be a home pod hub. This could be a hub for Apple's home kit. It's not currently, but it has all that capability. So one wonder does not one.
Caller 2 (00:48:11):
Yes. Yeah. Well, I, like I say, I've got everything pretty and an iPad pro that I use for music. I,
Leo Laporte (00:48:17):
Oh, get this monitor. You wanna be, you know, you're, if you're in the ecosystem that hard, you should do it. Yep. I, I, I won't, I'm actually giving my wife that and I'm gonna take the LG for something else. Cause she, it should all look nice. Some beautiful on the desk.
Caller 2 (00:48:31):
Okay. Well
Leo Laporte (00:48:32):
Enjoy.
Caller 1 (00:48:33):
That's where I'm gonna go buy it so much for you.
Leo Laporte (00:48:35):
All right. Kevin, take care. Well, thanks, God. I hope I'm right.
Mikah Sargent (00:48:38):
I think you're
Leo Laporte (00:48:40):
Think deal.
Scott Wilkinson (00:48:43):
I hope I'm right. I hope I'm right. I hope
Leo Laporte (00:48:45):
I'm right. Well, I hate to spend people, but when you, it might be a false economy. It's only a few hundred bucks. And in terms of long range satisfaction, every time he looks at it, it's just gonna look.
Mikah Sargent (00:48:56):
I used my Thunderbolt display for years after I got it. Originally,
Leo Laporte (00:49:00):
It's gonna look like an iMac. Yeah. It'll be beautiful. That LG is gorgeous. I gotta say it's a really nice monitor. LG makes nice panels, frankly. They probably make the panel for the apple. Right. Scott?
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:15):
I, I wouldn't know, but it's likely there aren't very many panel makers, you know, raw panel makers
Leo Laporte (00:49:21):
In the world and the LG has a type C has display and it has two H D M I, and it has two USB, three twos. That's got a he phone Jack. I mean, it's got
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:33):
A he phone Jack.
Leo Laporte (00:49:34):
Yeah. So you could, well that's so you could run a speaker system off of it. All right. So, and which you'd probably be better off, especially since he has those Alec Lansings so I don't know. I just don't know, man. Oh
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:49):
Man.
Leo Laporte (00:49:50):
And it has the Tilton height.
Scott Wilkinson (00:49:53):
Yeah. Which you have to pay how much extra on that? Yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:49:55):
400 bucks. 400 bucks. Oh geez. And you can, you can rotate it to 90 degrees. You can run it in a portrait mode, which Lisa says I would never do so nevermind. But I'm mine for programming. It's exactly what you want. Right. So I don't know. Don't know it has AMD free sync as well, as well as the oh, no, it doesn't have in video. Jesus. Yes, sir. You
Speaker 8 (00:50:17):
Can't rotate the tilt. You can only rotate the visa.
Leo Laporte (00:50:21):
No, no. You're talking about the apple monitor. I'm talking about the LG monitor. You can rotate it. Number one. I know you cannot rotate the apple thing, but you can the LG yeah. Portrait mode, unless you get a visa amount. All right. All yours.
Scott Wilkinson (00:50:37):
Thank you so nice to see you all. I put in the chat room the links to the outings variable refresh rate and input lag or latency which includes a description of, of what it is and how they test for it. And a list of the TVs that that have low input lag that case. And in the case of variable refresh rate which ones support which ones, because there are several, as we've talked about there's AMD free sync, there's Invidia, GSI, there's H DMI VR, R, which is yet a third one. I think it seems to me that AMD free sync is the one, unless you're on a computer with an Invidia graphic card. In which case you will obviously want Invidia, GS, Inc. Thank you. Chicken head 21. We are doing very well here in, in Santa Cruz, still unpacking, but that's not really a surprise. It took us months to pack. So not surprising. It's taking weeks to unpack, but we're having a grand old time here. And the Sue the writer. Good to see you. You're in Vegas. I hope all is well there. Her
Scott Wilkinson (00:52:14):
Oh, my sister was in the chat room, but she just quit out too bad. I was gonna say hi. When you see, when you see Scott SIS in the chat room, that will be her. So let's see. What else can we let's see Keith, five 12. Don't need to worry about speakers. You don't use them when podcasting, well, that's true. You would want to use headphones for podcasting and beat master says that Sony firmware update. Now, now they're TVs. I guess some of them anyway, support G eSync as well. So if you're, again, if you're using a computer with an Invidia graphics card. Oh, twisted, Mr. Brought up a really interesting question. I don't know the answer to which is, if you turn on game mode, does that disable local diming, assuming that your TV has local dimming, which I've talked to about before the LEDs behind the screen are grouped into zones and each zone can be brightened or dimed independently which gives you better contrast.
Scott Wilkinson (00:53:22):
It's it's a much better image overall. But is that part of the processing that gets disabled when you go into game mode? I would hope not. Because I would think that you would want local dimming when playing a video game, because I imagine I'm not a gamer, so I don't know for sure those of you who are gamers can help me out. But I would assume that might be some imagery in various games in which there's some dark areas in the picture and some bright areas in the picture. And if that's the case, then you certainly want local dimming. How much processing does local diming take? It takes some certainly cuz it's got to evaluate the incoming image and it's gotta say, okay, here's a dark part. Here's a bright part. I gotta little dim these LEDs and brighten these LEDs. So that's gotta take some time, some milliseconds I should say.
Scott Wilkinson (00:54:20):
So I don't know that that's a really good question. Q 43 had asked didn't understand frame and interpolation and how that would help, well, 120 Hertz. And, and that relates to the question of why do 120 Hertz? Well for one reason, I think there aren't there some games at 120 Hertz, I think Leo mentioned you could have HD at 120 or 4k at 60. And I myself would probably opt for HD at one 20. Again, I'm not a gamer, but the higher frame rate gives you smoother, more sharp, a sharper motion without blur with less blur. But it also allow frame a interpolation at 120 Hertz lets you do what that does is it synthesizes frames, new frames between existing frames in the signal. Now that sharpens up motion, but it also introduces an artifact called soap opera effect, which is the dread soap opera effect, which makes things look kind of like they're on, they were shot on cheap video or old style video and like a soap opera. And so some people don't like it and so they turn it off. But if you don't like it and you turn it off, then there, there ISN much need for 120 Hertz. If you're watching movies and TV and not playing games, if you're playing games, then it's important. Because some games will do 120 Hertz, but even if they don't, if you get a TV with a variable refresh rate, then you can vary up to 120 Hertz with could be good in modern games. But there you go.
Leo Laporte (00:56:13):
Well, Hey, Hey, Hey, how are you today? Leo Laporte here. The tech guy. It's time to talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches, all that jazz. Kevin really wanted us to talk him into buying the see I'm helping Mikah become the next tech guy. So here's a little hint. Okay. You have to listen for what people want you to tell them. Right. He wanted me to say, oh gosh, it's the best monitor ever. You're gonna love it. Well, what did you get
Mikah Sargent (00:56:46):
The yeah.
Leo Laporte (00:56:46):
Studio, the apple studio display. Yeah. And the fat,
Mikah Sargent (00:56:50):
I have a coming to me, the thick Mac. Yeah. A Mac studio with the M one max. It's the base model except I got a terabyte of storage instead of the, what is it? Five 12 by default. Yeah, the,
Leo Laporte (00:57:01):
This
Mikah Sargent (00:57:02):
Has two terabytes. You
Leo Laporte (00:57:02):
Need a, a terabyte
Mikah Sargent (00:57:03):
Device. So I needed at least a terabyte. Yeah. And then the studio display, I originally was gonna get it with the vase amount. However, because I wanted to make sure that we could have it on launch day. I went with the, the standard arm and that's fine because what I use at home stays within that range of, of the standard arm. So the studio display come on, March 18th on the launch date and the, my Mac mini because of that terabyte of customization is due sometime between now and April 1st. Hopefully that's not an April fools day joke. And that's
Leo Laporte (00:57:39):
The other thing. And again, I think this is supply chain shortage. Yeah. Eighty eight eighty eight ask Leo is the phone number (888) 827-5536 is toll free from anywhere in the us or Canada. If you wanna call and talk high tech with us, anything with a chip in it, including it turns out that apple monitor, which has a pretty hefty microprocesor in it. That's the real to me the big question mark is why did they do that? We didn't, I, I opened the show an hour ago. I didn't really go into the details on the apple event. I don't know
Mikah Sargent (00:58:10):
You did on Mac break weekly.
Leo Laporte (00:58:11):
I think if people care about it, they know already, but there's a new iPhone se the 5g iPhone se there's a new iPad air, which is really a lot more like the pro, which we kind of thought it would be. It's got an M chip and it's got a type C connector, not a Thunderball, but type C USB connector. And then of course, these new max, which I think is, I think is pretty exciting. They're they look like swell up old Mac minis. They're a little fatter.
Mikah Sargent (00:58:40):
Yes. They're
Leo Laporte (00:58:40):
Not quite twice as tall,
Mikah Sargent (00:58:41):
Nearly twice as tall with, with some ports on the front porch, on the, a lot of ports on the back. I, I do have to say I'm a little offended that you didn't mention the new green iPhones, which asking
Leo Laporte (00:58:52):
Michael likes green, green iPhones. Okay. All right. Actually to me, the most exciting thing is this M one ultra chip, which apple announced. They said I think this is sort of true. No one noticed we have a secret feature in our M one ships, which is what's called an interconnect in computing. When you have two devices talking to one another, they do it over an interconnect. And apparently they built in, but not revealed the fact that the M one chips have an interconnect, which allows them. We all thought they'd do this. We just didn't know they had the hardware to do it built in, allows 'em to connect multiple chips or multiple dyes in sequence. So you can have an M one ultra, which is really two M one chips kinda like in tell does with their core duo and they have quad core and now, and so forth.
Leo Laporte (00:59:46):
We say, I don't say core though, because of the way apple does it. The dye has Ram on it. The dye has, it's really a system on a chip, everything on that one chip like thing, you might as well call it a chip, but the processor's in there, but a lot of other stuff. So what they have now is two die. So they can double the amount of memory cuz they have enough memory for two, they can because the connection is so fast faster than Intel's interconnect, they can act as one. So I think apple really kind of showed their stuff, their engineering stuff on Tuesday with this new ultra chip. I think it's very, very impressive. And Intel is gonna say, as they have already, oh, we could be that fast. But what they're, what they also should mention is in order to be that fast, we have to use three or four times the power which means he hotter, which means it often can't run as that fast in the, you have special cooling by the way, these, these fat max have special
Mikah Sargent (01:00:46):
Cooling, special cooling. Yeah. The M one ultra version has a copper heat sink built in. That's very because people are going, why is that one so much more heavy? It's
Leo Laporte (01:00:53):
Two pounds heavier. It's two pounds heavier.
Mikah Sargent (01:00:55):
Same size of the copper heat
Leo Laporte (01:00:56):
Sink. Yeah. It's only aluminum in the M one max aluminum aluminum. So now we have M one M one pro M one max and M one ultra. I think they should have made M a X, X,
Mikah Sargent (01:01:09):
No two
Leo Laporte (01:01:09):
Xs max max. Anyway I don't, you know, if you're not interested in apple stuff, this is boring. So that's why I didn't wanna spend too much time on it. It's interesting though. I think they're firing at all still in. And if you are another chip manufacturer AMD or an Intel or video, you gotta start be thinking, wow, I wish I wish we had some of mm, engineers,
Mikah Sargent (01:01:33):
Them engineers.
Leo Laporte (01:01:33):
Engineers is good.
Mikah Sargent (01:01:35):
Let me write that down somewhere. Engineers
Leo Laporte (01:01:38):
Page is on the line from Los Angeles. Hi page.
Caller 3 (01:01:41):
Hi Leo. Thank you.
Leo Laporte (01:01:43):
Thanks for hanging on while we gabbed on and on. I apologize.
Caller 3 (01:01:48):
I just wanted to get your thoughts. I have two phone lines. I kept the phone number from my husband when he passed.
Leo Laporte (01:01:58):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Caller 3 (01:01:59):
Thank you. And I have two Android phones. So he
Leo Laporte (01:02:02):
Had a cell phone? Yes. Okay. We're not talking landlines in any of the cases here?
Caller 3 (01:02:08):
No, they're both.
Leo Laporte (01:02:09):
Both cell lines. Okay. Yes. Same carrier.
Caller 3 (01:02:13):
Yes. I have a T-Mobile.
Leo Laporte (01:02:14):
Okay. And you have yourself, you have two phones, so it's yep. So each phone I can have its own number.
Caller 3 (01:02:21):
Yes. I'm wondering, I have people who have iPhones and I've been wondering about getting an iPhone as well as the Android have one of each. And I don't know is that I know you do, but you do it for, so is that
Leo Laporte (01:02:39):
Oh one, two, three, four, five, quite a few phones. I have accounts with all the carriers. Several carriers. Yeah. T-Mobile at and T a Verizon ting mint. Mobile. So that's five. So that means I can have five phones at any given time working. I'm
Mikah Sargent (01:02:58):
Rocking two lines, two phones,
Leo Laporte (01:03:00):
But you don't need them. No. yeah, in fact, you know, thank goodness my wife understands she's in the business, so it's okay. Cuz normally a spouse would say you have two funds. Why with two numbers? Why would that be? Why would that be? Who are you expecting a call from buddy boy. But some people do this for business and and personal life to separate. If you have a compelling reason to do it, I think you should. I'll tell you the drawback, the big drawback for what you're proposing. And I it's only cuz I live, it is some people will message me on Apple's platform and the messages platform. I can't get those messages on Android's. Yeah. And actually there's one way I can do it and I'll explain that in a bit, but it's really tricky so I can get the Android messages on apple, but I even then I have to play a trick I have to use Google's Androids messages and I have to open a web page and save it on my iPhone as if that's the go.
Leo Laporte (01:04:00):
It's just a, it's just not a good there it's as if there is a big wall between the two and this is not Google wanting to do this. This actually is apple insisting. And we even know from leaked emails in a, in the lawsuit, they had that, they know that if they didn't keep these, this big barrier between the, to that parents would buy Android phones for their kids, cheap Android phone for their kids. It's what keeps people in the apple ecosystem. So it's a anti-competitive thing. I, I wish apple wouldn't do it, but they do. So that's the drawback you will have then though you will be a blue bubble, which I know everybody wants to be a blue bubble. So when your iPhone friends message, you they'll be using that phone number, that iPhone phone number, the problem is you'll and I have to do this. I have to carry both phones in case somebody messages me on the other number, which is a real pain in the behind, right?
Caller 3 (01:04:57):
Yeah. Right.
Leo Laporte (01:04:59):
Unless you have a honestly, unless you have compelling reason for it.
Caller 3 (01:05:05):
No, you know, I'd like to get an apple watch.
Leo Laporte (01:05:08):
Oh, well that's a good reason actually,
Caller 3 (01:05:10):
But yeah. Is that enough? I don't know
Leo Laporte (01:05:13):
If so the iPhone se four 50 bucks is a very nice phone. Yes. And it's a, in relatively inexpensive iPhone. It has the same chip as the iPhone 13. So it's just as fast. It's a little bit smaller screen cameras aren't as fancy, but it's in every respect, a, a very, you know, modern iPhone. That's why they make it. I think it's a very good choice for people who don't wanna spend a lot of money on an iPhone, but you know, you can have multiple. If, if all you wanted to do was have multiple numbers for business and work, you can do that on one phone. It really, you brought up the single case where you really might want an iPhone in an Android phone where you have people on both platforms and you wanna respond to them.
Caller 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah. someone tried to hook me into a text thread and couldn't it. Right. My number came up red, which
Leo Laporte (01:06:08):
Yeah. Yeah. So that is a really strong reason to do that. But then you're gonna have this problem where you have to check both messages on both folks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But drives my daughter crazy. Cuz she has an Android phone. So she'll call me on Android. And I don't answer cuz I don't have my Android phone with me. She said, why aren't you answering? I said, well, call my iPhone. It's not a good, it's not a good thing. It's kind of nutty. You have just, you just iPhone. Right. Michael, you don't I,
Mikah Sargent (01:06:35):
So I have both. I do. And I have a line for both of them. I just, because I'm mostly on iOS and most of the people I talk to are on iOS. They use their iPhones. That's where most of the conversation happens. However I do use that Android phone regularly because of this show for one and for all
Leo Laporte (01:06:50):
The, yeah. You wanna keep up
Mikah Sargent (01:06:51):
On it, gotta make sure I know what's going on in Android land. But yeah, it's kind of, it's hard. You were talking earlier. You gotta see what the person is calling in once. I don't know if you really want to be told that you wanna run two different phones.
Leo Laporte (01:07:04):
Cause well I'm giving you the negative. Now, if you are willing to have a Mac that's on all the time, you can run something called air messages that that actually puts it. It's it? Because one of the nice things apple does with messages is it works on the computer and the iPad everywhere. So if you're, if you're all apple, all your messages come in everywhere and you can run this server on your Mac that will then forward it to your Android number. So you can, that's the one kind of way around this that you can have. Yeah. And that seems like a lot of work, right?
Caller 3 (01:07:37):
Yeah. And I'm windows anyway. Oh
Leo Laporte (01:07:39):
Yeah. I said, boy, I don't
Mikah Sargent (01:07:42):
Know as fun as it can be. It also is UN fun when you're having to just juggle all of that. This
Leo Laporte (01:07:47):
Is intentional in Apple's part and the right answer is, get rid of windows, get rid of Android, be all apple. Everything will be wonderful except for your poor friends on Android who will you'll lose track of the they're going off in their own world.
Caller 3 (01:08:03):
Yeah. I, I wondered about all kinds of mixing and matching. It's
Leo Laporte (01:08:07):
Hard. It's really hard to do.
Caller 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah,
Leo Laporte (01:08:11):
I do it. Cuz I have to, I like, I mean there's lots to like about Android. I don't want to give up Android. In fact, when I get this new iMac, that's one of the things it's gonna do is run air messages in the background. So I will be able to get so then if I went right now, if I leave the house with one phone, I'm gonna miss half my messages. That's not good and calls too. No, I don't care about calls. Yeah. That's not good. So are you, so really the real question is do you, are you willing to carry and check two phones at all times?
Caller 3 (01:08:42):
Okay. Yeah. I have to think about that.
Leo Laporte (01:08:46):
That's that's the drawback. There's lots of benefits, but that's the drawback.
Caller 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah. Okay.
Leo Laporte (01:08:54):
Oh help you at all. Did I? I feel terrible. Thank you Paige.
Caller 3 (01:08:59):
Well, that's the thing. I mean I'm I read online about it and there's
Leo Laporte (01:09:03):
This is why I'm here. There's pro this is why Mikah and I are here. Cuz we can really boil it down to what your experience will be and that's what your experience will be. Yeah. And then, and then now you at least have that information and you can make a, what is a tough decision? You obviously really want to talk to your friends on on Apple's messages. Yeah. It makes me mad. I mean, if apple wanted to, they could make messages that would run on Android and it would solve this problem. They just don't want to, they wanna make you buy a, a apple device.
Caller 3 (01:09:29):
Yeah. Yeah. Well, sorry. Maybe it'll it'll lean me over to the apple side if I did it. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:09:38):
Well that would slowly guess what that's exactly what apple was. That's what I'm trying to
Mikah Sargent (01:09:43):
Do. Yeah.
Caller 3 (01:09:44):
Yeah. But I like windows. I mean I know windows. Yeah. I don't know apple.
Leo Laporte (01:09:48):
Right? I completely sympathize. Yeah. I completely sympathize.
Mikah Sargent (01:09:53):
If ultimate goal here is, it sounds like the, the apple watch, you kind of brought it in there, but that does sound like something that you really are, you know, desiring
Leo Laporte (01:10:01):
The next. So the, the, so the next step is just to get an iPhone and get rid of the Android phone. That's that'll still work. All the people who wanna message you on Android will use that number. And it'll come in on messages. Messages works with SMS. So it's completely cross platform. The, the trouble is having two, two and two platforms. If you pick the apple platform, then you get the benefit of both. You get text messages from Android and you'll get you don't but don't have two numbers have one, one number you don't have. You can keep your husband's number and not discontinue it, but you can suspend it so you don't pay for it.
Caller 3 (01:10:37):
Oh,
Leo Laporte (01:10:38):
I think, well, you might pay for it actually, but you won't pay much. You pay less for it.
Mikah Sargent (01:10:42):
I was just thinking call the carrier, but also just use one iPhone and just have the dual dual SIM
Leo Laporte (01:10:47):
Set up. Yeah. You have both numbers on it.
Mikah Sargent (01:10:48):
If you talk to your carrier about the dual SIM setup,
Leo Laporte (01:10:50):
Actually that's a good solution. Then you'll continue to get text messages from your Android folks. You'll have IESs for all of all the rest and
Mikah Sargent (01:10:57):
You'll be able to use the apple watch. Like you mentioned,
Leo Laporte (01:10:59):
There you
Mikah Sargent (01:11:00):
Go. Dual SIM dual SIM won little link to talk about that for the iPhone.
Leo Laporte (01:11:04):
Yeah. The iPhone will do it with an EIM and a regular SIM. So you take your radio SIM outta your Android phone, put it in the iPhone and you're done Leo Laport, the tech guy with Mikah too.
Leo Laporte (01:11:26):
No, I I'm not giving apple pass. I'm saying that specifically, but I mean it's if you wanna punish apple fine, but we gotta also live in the real world where some people want to use apple. I mean, you know, honestly everybody should be using open source. Everything. I got an open source Linux phone. I wouldn't want to use it full time. I'm a fan of an open source in general. I don't think windows or Microsoft or apple are very user friendly. No ads. Just the content. That's what you get. When you join club TWiT, you even get extras like TWiT plus our new bonus feed. Just remember and exclusive access to the club. Twit discord community. Join now for just $7 a month and support TWiT. As we continue to create top-notch podcasts you expect and deserve. We're just getting started. It'll be one of the first to join.
Leo Laporte (01:12:25):
As we build club TWiT from the ground up, you could be an early member, go to twi.tv/club TWiT to learn more and sign up now. Thanks. Oh yeah. Leo Laporte. Yeah, the tech guy, 88, 88, ES Leo like a Sargant tech guy too in studio with me. Now you spoiled me when I do the Sunday show. I miss you. Oh, it's like, where is where's Mikah? I miss you too Powell. Oh no, you don't. You're happy to have a day. I know you. Did we miss anything speaking of missing on relevant to the apple event? I think we cut it. We got it all covered it all. Except green iPhone major league baseball. Yeah. They have baseball two games on us on a Friday night, night baseball. Yeah. That's cuz they couldn't now it's, they're trying hard to get NFL games, Sunday night games.
Leo Laporte (01:13:20):
But they weren't able to make the deal before the event so they couldn't announce it. I'm sure they wanted to announce that on the apple team. Oh yeah. Cuz that's been rumored for a long time. It's going back and forth. Whether they'll have exclusive rights or not. Yeah. 88. And of course they're bidding against AMS on. I think Amazon's gonna win this one. I think they might. They got deep pockets. Well of course. So does apple, Amazon, apple, who would you, who would you pick in a cage match? I think, oh man. I was gonna say apple, but I think that there's a little bit too much like for the good of the world there that Amazon doesn't Amazon's blood throw. They're cut through dirt in your eye, you know? And I've noticed, I didn't say Tim cook versus Jeff Bezos cuz Bezos easily win. Easily wins that one. But see, because he retired, he's been lifting. He has he's on his yacht. Is that your plan? Get a yacht. Yeah. Get a yacht, get a trainer there. He's got a trainer living with him probably also you know, telling him what to eat. He's lifting all the time. Why Jeff you're you're one of the richest men in the world. You don't need to be buff. He just wants to be, I guess I don't know.
Mikah Sargent (01:14:25):
I, I mean good health, right?
Leo Laporte (01:14:27):
That's not necessarily. You
Mikah Sargent (01:14:28):
Don't have to be buffed out. Good health.
Leo Laporte (01:14:30):
Jeff Good health.
Mikah Sargent (01:14:31):
You're sort of just yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:14:33):
It's cause he wants to look good. Oh, Lewis on the line from Hollywood. Hello Lewis,
Caller 4 (01:14:38):
Mr. President.
Leo Laporte (01:14:39):
Hello.
Caller 4 (01:14:40):
Before
Leo Laporte (01:14:41):
My, the vice president is in the house as well. Yes, the whole the whole government
Caller 4 (01:14:46):
Before my question today, Leo, I just wanna let your listeners know whether they're interested in apple products are not. If they want them to want to enjoy some really wonderful tech reporting, they should watch the TWiT news coverage of the
Leo Laporte (01:14:59):
Oh thank you.
Caller 4 (01:15:01):
They should fast and forward to the announcement of hang
Leo Laporte (01:15:04):
On. Gotta take a break. Johnny jet coming up. Leo Laport, the tech guy. I'm firing this hot clock
Mikah Sargent (01:15:15):
Timing a little off.
Leo Laporte (01:15:16):
Yeah, a little bit off there. So that hot clock getting fired. I thought I'd fixed it. I was wrong. I was wrong. Sorry about that, Mr. Lewis. I pro apologize.
Caller 4 (01:15:26):
That's all right, sir.
Leo Laporte (01:15:28):
But I'm gonna let you say those nice things now. Well, cause it's the podcast audience, so they'll, they'll appreciate it.
Caller 4 (01:15:37):
I just wanted people to know that they should, if they watch the that TWiT coverage, they should fast forward to the announcement of the M one ultra processor just to see Leo hyperventilate.
Leo Laporte (01:15:50):
Oh, was I jumping up and down? Normally I try to sit on my hands for stuff like that.
Caller 4 (01:15:55):
I thought your ball was gonna break again.
Leo Laporte (01:15:56):
Yeah. I was very and I still am. Impressed.
Caller 4 (01:16:02):
Yeah. It's, it's really amazing.
Leo Laporte (01:16:04):
I and I, and you know, I'm sure I'll get it. And then I'll go see part of the problem now apple, and Apple's had this problem with the iPad for some time and even the iPhone it's too fast. It's faster than you need. Yeah. It's like overkill. And we kept saying with the iPad pro well, when is software gonna take advantage of all this? And, and it hasn't, I mean, I don't know, can a computer, this is actually an interesting question. Can a computer be too fast asked? I mean, I guess it can, I guess it
Mikah Sargent (01:16:38):
Can. What does that mean though?
Leo Laporte (01:16:39):
Well, I mean there's a lot of headroom. So with even a, an M one max let alone the ultra you'd be very hard pressed to tax it. You'd it it's a, it's only specialists. People like Alex Lynn doing photogrammetry that are gonna tax that thing. Anything most people do is not even gonna break the thing's not gonna break a sweat. It's just gonna, so it's got a lot of extra, more power than you need.
Caller 4 (01:17:07):
I, I was thinking if you put just a, a couple of more of those chips together and stick them in a robot, you got commander data.
Leo Laporte (01:17:18):
Well, you know, in fact that's one of the things Apple's doing. That's very interesting. 32 neural course. Yeah. Why, why?
Mikah Sargent (01:17:29):
I think a lot of modern OSS are really relying on the, the sort of artificial intelligence to fill in where the chips are kind. There was, I think Intel actually, who had talked about how they're using AI to fill in the gaps where CPUs and GPU's just can't yet. So we're gonna continue to see that. I think as we, every bit, every part of the processing that you're doing, every little thing you do on the computer has some AI magic thrown into the mix.
Leo Laporte (01:17:57):
Yeah.
Caller 4 (01:17:57):
Do you want me to save my question until after Johnny or should
Leo Laporte (01:17:59):
I, it's gonna be a while. Do you mind? Not at all. Hang on. Okay. Thank you, Louis. You're very kind. What'd you say John? Yeah,
Johnny Jet (01:18:07):
I'm starting to get there.
Leo Laporte (01:18:10):
He's been everywhere. My friends, he is our travel guru, Johnny jet. The one, the only Johnny jet.com his website. He's back from Oahu, tan rested. You're our golden boy. Welcome home Johnny jet.
Johnny Jet (01:18:25):
It's nice to be back.
Leo Laporte (01:18:26):
Yeah. You got a good
Johnny Jet (01:18:27):
Time. I wouldn't mind still being there.
Leo Laporte (01:18:30):
Hawaii's wonderful. You, you prefer of all the islands. You prefer Oahu.
Johnny Jet (01:18:35):
Well, because I have kids. It's easy, you know, there's a good hospital there. God forbid there's restaurants in walking distance. You don't need to rent a car.
Leo Laporte (01:18:44):
Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:18:45):
You know, the resorts, you don't have to spend so much money at resorts on their food. So I like that. But, and I also love the other side of Oahu.
Leo Laporte (01:18:54):
If it's just the two of you, it's just you and Natalie, maybe you'd go to oh man. NY or
Johnny Jet (01:18:59):
Something. If I had the money, I'd go to four seasons of nine.
Leo Laporte (01:19:01):
Yeah, yeah. Me too. Right there.
Johnny Jet (01:19:03):
Yeah. Boom.
Leo Laporte (01:19:04):
Yeah. Who needs a yacht story? If you've got four seasons Lanai, you don't need anything else.
Johnny Jet (01:19:09):
Yeah. That's that's where you wanna be. But anyway, we were at the Ritz Carlton Waikiki, which is awesome. That sounds pretty nice village.
Leo Laporte (01:19:15):
Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:19:16):
Both great. Yeah. Especially the, the, the Ritz Carlton. They have washers and dryers in your room. Oh, I mean, that makes it all the difference in
Leo Laporte (01:19:24):
The world. Oh, we gotta stay there next time. That sounds really nice pull. Is that on Waikiki?
Johnny Jet (01:19:28):
Yeah. It's, it's just, it's a seven minute walk from the beat. Actually. I, I walked from the Hilton to the Ritz Carlton. I was probably the only person ever to check in at the Ritz with both my bags that I walked from another hotel to
Leo Laporte (01:19:44):
What are you doing, man? Walking. Yeah. Yeah. So what's up in the, the travel world these days. So
Johnny Jet (01:19:50):
A couple things last week, we talked about the air ands people, booking them for Ukraine, and then this week it came out that that might not have been such a great idea unless you're really drilled down because some of these Airbnbs were owned by Russians. Oh. And big and big companies. So you really have to drill down and make sure that you're supporting the Ukrainians. So if you do that before just,
Leo Laporte (01:20:12):
And just throw your money. Yeah. That's always the case, isn't it. Right.
Johnny Jet (01:20:15):
And you know, this whole thing with UK Ukraine obviously is a huge mess for travel. You know, 60% of airspace is cut off. So flights are being rerouted. A lot of flights are being canceled. You know, I had canceled their India flights cuz they flew over Russia. Really a lot of airlines have adjusted and you know, the TSA extended their federal mass mandate by only a month, which means it's most likely gonna end. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:20:39):
But they did extend it. That's important in April to April anyway. So that's interesting. They dis I wonder why they decided to standard.
Johnny Jet (01:20:48):
I just think they wanna make sure, you know, there's a new variant or I don't know if it's new, but it's in the UK. And I just saw yesterday that, you know, it's up 30% from last week. So that's a little sketchy and I think they're just trying to make sure, because once you take it off, it's hard to put it back in. And yeah. So, but I spoke to the flight attendants on my, I, I flew Hawaiian airlines home, by the way, row 12 is the greatest and 11, 12 row, 11 and 12 on their a three 30 is the greatest coach seats. Okay. You have to pay $89 to 119, I think extra. But man, if you're a couple you want the window and the aisle and row 11, cuz it's your own cabin row 11 and 12.
Leo Laporte (01:21:26):
Oh there's no one else around, huh?
Johnny Jet (01:21:28):
No, I had and three people in front of us didn't show up. So I literally had two people within six feet of me.
Leo Laporte (01:21:33):
Oh, that's good. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely social distancing on an airplane. Unheard of. Yes.
Johnny Jet (01:21:38):
That's great.
Leo Laporte (01:21:39):
Yes.
Johnny Jet (01:21:40):
Yeah. But and I'm speaking of Hawaii, all the airlines have really good fares right now for April and may. I mean $119 from the west coast, most cities Southwest 2 37 from LA. This is including taxes. So just make sure you check the hotel prices before you book your flights, because that could be a lot more money, especially in places like Maui where they're really getting top dollar, but the flight attends by the way. Seems they, they can't wait for this mask mandate to end. I think most of them, most of them accept some of the, the unions because you know, there's so many fights going on and
Leo Laporte (01:22:17):
Over masks
Johnny Jet (01:22:19):
Exactly 60 over 60% of the fight fights are because of masks. So, but it's gonna end, I think it's gonna end. Who would
Leo Laporte (01:22:27):
You airplane thinking? They didn't have to wear mask. Everybody knows. Right. Or maybe not. Maybe just no, they
Johnny Jet (01:22:33):
Know, they know they,
Leo Laporte (01:22:34):
They definitely know. They just wanna make it a deal. Exactly.
Johnny Jet (01:22:37):
Yeah. And some flight attendants, they're very lenient. They, you know, they don't enforce
Leo Laporte (01:22:41):
It. Well now I bet they will, since it's going to probably only be another month, they might just say, ah, fine. Yeah. Yeah. Don't think I on an airplane expecting not to wear a mask, you still have to for another month at least. Yes. Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:22:55):
So breeze airways, have you heard of them? They were startup. I talked about 'em six months ago when they began. Anyway, they just announced they're gonna launch from San Francisco and Los Angeles. So you can fly nonstop on a two 20 from, to Richmond, Virginia, to Charleston, South Carolina, to Louisville and to San Bernardino here in California, from San Francisco, from LA, they're gonna fly to Providence Norfolk.
Leo Laporte (01:23:18):
So they're focusing Savannah on the, kind of the smaller roots that the big airlines don't want.
Johnny Jet (01:23:23):
Exactly. These Aircrafts, they're a single aisle aircraft. They only hold about a little bit more than a hundred people, but they have really good airfares, $99 each way.
Leo Laporte (01:23:32):
Oh wow. They
Johnny Jet (01:23:33):
Also have first class on this one.
Leo Laporte (01:23:35):
So you think they'll have San Francisco to Providence cuz then I could go visit mom.
Johnny Jet (01:23:39):
No it's LA to Providence, but they oh,
Leo Laporte (01:23:41):
But
Johnny Jet (01:23:42):
You know, eventually I think they will. Let's just see how this, I think they're roll it out. So this is the same founder as jet blue.
Leo Laporte (01:23:48):
Oh I love jet Niman. Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:23:50):
And so he left, he started five different airlines, AUL in, in Brazil. I mean, and all of them have taken off. He's like a serial
Leo Laporte (01:23:58):
Startup. Nice pun there, by the way. Thank you. Wow. It's interesting. That's his thing is I start airlines. I will leave. I start another one. I leave. Interesting.
Johnny Jet (01:24:08):
So you know, all these airline prices are gonna go up because gas, the fuel's going up. So if you're gonna travel now is the time to start buying, especially for the spring. You might wanna hold off on fall right now to see what happens. I was telling you,
Leo Laporte (01:24:20):
I didn't even think of that. But jet fuel probably is going up as much as gasoline petrol.
Johnny Jet (01:24:25):
Definitely. Definitely.
Leo Laporte (01:24:27):
It's definitely going
Johnny Jet (01:24:28):
Up. So
Leo Laporte (01:24:29):
And does that, how quickly the airlines put, build that into their pricing?
Johnny Jet (01:24:33):
I think it all depends. They used to hedge like five years ago, the airlines would hedge their fuel they're they haven't done it, which I'm sure they're kicking themselves right now because
Leo Laporte (01:24:42):
They probably thought we wouldn't have another fuel crisis.
Johnny Jet (01:24:44):
Definitely. Yeah. I don't think it's ever been higher air. So I mean, just think about how much it costs to fill up your, your tank here in California. I think it's almost $6 a gallon.
Leo Laporte (01:24:55):
I've forgotten about the the old Arab fuel crisis we had in 1973, I watched last night a movie it's nominated for best picture licorice pizza that takes place in that era. And in fact that's kind of a big part of the plot is running out of gas and having to figure out where you can get it because the pumps are closing in the San Fernando valley. There's nowhere to get gas. But it, but then it still was only 40 cents a gallon. It's a little more expensive now. Yeah. A little bit,
Johnny Jet (01:25:26):
But it's not like Europe. I remember going to Europe, you know, and you know, before, you know,
Leo Laporte (01:25:30):
Just three years ago and the prices were right. So if you book now though, you can lock in the lower price.
Johnny Jet (01:25:37):
Yeah. They haven't already raised it, but like bring airways. These are just startup fairs. So whenever an airline starts a new route, they usually have a, a discounted fair.
Leo Laporte (01:25:45):
They're gonna lose money for a while. Expensive. They're gonna, they know they are, by the way, Bri has an app, which is also interesting. Like they want you to book on the app. I think
Johnny Jet (01:25:53):
They definitely want you to book on the app. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:25:55):
I mean, isn't that, isn't
Johnny Jet (01:25:56):
That interesting. Most airlines rather you book on their app or on their website. So they,
Leo Laporte (01:25:59):
They don't want you to call
Johnny Jet (01:25:59):
To avoid the third party. Yeah. They don't, they don't want you to call. Yeah. I don't even know if you can call with the breeze actually. Oh, interesting. I've not flown 'em yet. I hope to fly 'em on their when they start in June here in LA,
Leo Laporte (01:26:11):
I like some of the places they go. I mean, I Louisville's great. Charleston's great. Richmond, Tampa. When they get San Francisco to NAS, that's what I'm gonna get hop on bowls. And
Johnny Jet (01:26:22):
They will because they have a base Orleans. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:26:24):
That's what I'm hopping on. Both Liz. Boong How fun. Now, if you wanna keep track of all this stuff, Johnny has a number of newsletters at his website, Johnny jet.com. Here's a good news. They're all free other people in Johnny's position charge. And I, I think you're very generous. You really give everything away.
Johnny Jet (01:26:47):
Well,
Leo Laporte (01:26:47):
Do you have a premium anything?
Johnny Jet (01:26:49):
No, no I don't. But Johnny I did put a donate button on there for a while, especially during COVID when I was getting crushed. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:26:57):
But subscribe to his newsletter newsletters. He's got fair, fair newsletters. You can book air fair air. Good air deals through his website too. And there's lots of good information. Johnny jet.com. I'll meet you in Providence. We'll get a I'll be there. We'll get a
Johnny Jet (01:27:15):
We'll go to watch
Leo Laporte (01:27:16):
Hill a cabinet and a Hoy. And we'll go to watch hill. It'd be great. I can't wait. Look for the tech guy. Thank you Johnny.
Johnny Jet (01:27:25):
Thank you,
Leo Laporte (01:27:29):
Johnny. Johnny, Johnny.
Johnny Jet (01:27:31):
You've obviously been to watch hill. I mean, you grew up right near there, right?
Leo Laporte (01:27:34):
I'm trying to remember what watch hill is. What's
Johnny Jet (01:27:36):
So that's where watch hill Rhode Island it's right, right near mystic, Connecticut across the border. It's one of the greatest little beach towns we used to go every summer. That's where we would go. Actually. Taylor, Taylor swift actually put it kind of on the map. It's pretty five years ago. It's pretty, it's bought a monster house.
Leo Laporte (01:27:53):
Oh, it's in westerly. Yeah. I know where it is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Johnny Jet (01:27:56):
So you stayed at the ocean house, which is big.
Leo Laporte (01:27:58):
Ooh. Okay. This
Johnny Jet (01:27:59):
Is where you wanna take Lisa.
Leo Laporte (01:28:01):
Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna go to the ocean house and watch hill and then we could visit mom have to get a rental car so we could drive to province. It's not very far. I mean everything. No.
Johnny Jet (01:28:08):
Yeah. It's an hour.
Leo Laporte (01:28:10):
Oh the wash hill in, is that what you're talking about? Or the ocean house?
Johnny Jet (01:28:14):
Ocean house.
Leo Laporte (01:28:15):
Oh man. The
Johnny Jet (01:28:16):
Ocean house. The ocean house is where you wanna stay.
Leo Laporte (01:28:19):
Okay.
Johnny Jet (01:28:19):
And Sam, the lifeguard, I've known him for
Leo Laporte (01:28:21):
Sam. The lifeguard I'll say hi, Johnny jets says hi is cute. Victorian. So this is from the era when the Giled age, when the millionaires are building these big old houses. Oh, look at that. That looks great.
Johnny Jet (01:28:34):
Well, this was an old hotel that was
Leo Laporte (01:28:36):
Reminds me of the corner.
Johnny Jet (01:28:37):
My mom used, used to be afraid to stay there.
Leo Laporte (01:28:39):
The hotel down like
Johnny Jet (01:28:40):
It, this was haunted. But anyway, they tore it down. They were gonna, they were gonna build like, I don't know what they were gonna build, but of these big investors from New York came in and said, we're gonna build the same exact replica and we're gonna make it luxury. And and they kept it the same, so good for them because everyone was all upset that they were tearing it down and you get really good loft rolls there. Although they're not cheap.
Leo Laporte (01:29:01):
I love a lobster. A good lobster roll.
Johnny Jet (01:29:04):
I do too.
Leo Laporte (01:29:05):
Yep. Although they're a little rich for my blood. I maybe I'll just go with a clam roll. You have the lobster roll.
Johnny Jet (01:29:11):
I got a quick question for you. Yes sir. So I'm on the plane and all of a sudden, I feel like my laptop, the bottom of my, the base it's
Leo Laporte (01:29:18):
Really hot.
Johnny Jet (01:29:19):
It, no, it popped out, oh the screw. It popped out of the screw. The screw didn't pop out. The actual base popped out inside. And then all of a sudden, the other side popped out
Leo Laporte (01:29:29):
Your battery.
Johnny Jet (01:29:30):
Wollen expanding
Leo Laporte (01:29:32):
Swollen. That's what that is.
Johnny Jet (01:29:34):
So, you know, I could feel like, you know, I think my son might have jumped on my laptop check
Leo Laporte (01:29:39):
To see if it's look, you know, hold it sideways and look to see if the battery's coming up. Because if it is, then you wanna stop charging it and replace it immediately. Cuz otherwise you'll
Mikah Sargent (01:29:50):
Same thing happened to me, Johnny with an old MacBook pro the battery started expanding and it did pop out even with the, the screws connected. So yeah, you really want to even turn it upside and sort of look at it from the side of the table.
Leo Laporte (01:30:04):
Cause if there's a little bump up, that's dangerous, dangerous. If it gets punctured, it'll it'll burst into flame. Great.
Johnny Jet (01:30:11):
So I, I actually have duct tape in my bag when I traveled to
Leo Laporte (01:30:13):
Hold it together, let's
Johnny Jet (01:30:15):
Get,
Leo Laporte (01:30:15):
Let's get Johnny a new laptop. Can we get Jo
Johnny Jet (01:30:18):
Johnny, a new laptop? I really love this laptop. I have.
Leo Laporte (01:30:21):
What laptop is it?
Johnny Jet (01:30:23):
H HP.
Leo Laporte (01:30:25):
Oh is it one of the, is it an ENV? Is it really
Johnny Jet (01:30:27):
The spectra? The spectra?
Leo Laporte (01:30:28):
Oh yeah. Those are super thin. That's exactly what's going on because there's no room for that battery to expand in that thing. And
Mikah Sargent (01:30:34):
Here I was gonna say, so I
Johnny Jet (01:30:35):
Had to have this thing look, but
Leo Laporte (01:30:36):
Okay. The new ones are great. I love what you're talking about. I had one too.
Johnny Jet (01:30:41):
I really
Leo Laporte (01:30:41):
Love it. No, it's thin. It's beautiful. Did you get the coppery one? Yes. Beautiful. It is. So they have no ones. She was like,
Johnny Jet (01:30:47):
What?
Leo Laporte (01:30:49):
No they have, but
Johnny Jet (01:30:49):
This is four years old. This is probably four years old.
Leo Laporte (01:30:52):
Yeah. Yeah. The, the battery's expanding and there's no room in there for that. That's a very thin, so I gotta
Johnny Jet (01:30:56):
Get rid of it.
Leo Laporte (01:30:57):
Yeah.
Mikah Sargent (01:30:58):
It is a safety hazard. Absolutely. Or
Leo Laporte (01:31:00):
Okay. Get it repaired. Repaired
Mikah Sargent (01:31:01):
If it's a battery then. Yes. It's yeah. You, whatever you wanna do you wanna do it as quick as
Leo Laporte (01:31:05):
Possible? Well, just don't charge it anymore. You can't use it. Well, what
Johnny Jet (01:31:08):
But I, my battery lasts like 40 minutes without a, well,
Mikah Sargent (01:31:11):
There you go. Yeah. You got a battery. Take
Leo Laporte (01:31:13):
Battery, take the battery out and see if you can plug it in and use it. And you might be able to just continue to use it plugged in without the battery. The battery's the problem. If you can get the battery out. You're all right.
Johnny Jet (01:31:22):
All right. I'm glad you
Leo Laporte (01:31:23):
Can get a replacement battery. Go to I fix it. Dot com. Look up that model and get a replacement battery. What is
Mikah Sargent (01:31:30):
It again?
Johnny Jet (01:31:30):
HP? What? HP.
Leo Laporte (01:31:32):
It's a Spectre. I mean it's a, it's a T it's I think T 360. I I'll. Hold on. We gotta talk to you later, John. Hold on, man. Hey, what's going on with my music?
Mikah Sargent (01:31:48):
Oh, this is oh
Leo Laporte (01:31:49):
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:31:53):
Are you playing this off a record? Professor Laura? Yes. I'm. It's a little scratchy. You might wanna get your dishwasher out. Put three drops of solution on it. Let it rotate gently underneath the dishwasher. Get rid of some of that dust in the grooves. Leo Laport, the tech guy. Isn't that funny? We don't do that anymore. We don't need to. You got a little dust in the bits you wanna clean blow, blow, shake out the shake out the iPhone eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number Lewis is still on the line. He's a very patient man. Thank you for hanging on Lewis. I appreciate it.
Caller 4 (01:32:30):
My pleasure,
Leo Laporte (01:32:30):
Leo, you said nice things about us. So I appreciate your using your question time. Well complimentary. So thank you.
Caller 4 (01:32:39):
Leo, until recently I used to use a wonderful piece of software for recording audio, as it was streaming over my Mac, it was from audio hijack and what's called roam. Meba
Leo Laporte (01:32:51):
Roam is the country, the company. Yeah, audio hijack
Caller 4 (01:32:54):
In order to run audio hijack on my M one Mac mini roam wants me to install something called ACE audio handling component by enabling reduced security on my Mac. Oh, oh. And to me this does not sound like a really good idea. So if you agree with that, do you have a recommendation for an app to replace audio hijack?
Leo Laporte (01:33:17):
Well, first of all, roam, but longtime Mac developers, you can trust them. Okay. So it depends what they mean by reduced security. There's one simple thing. And I, it would surprise me that you would have to do this with anything from roam MEbA, which is that apple doesn't. Did you get the popup that says I can't scan this from malware?
Caller 4 (01:33:38):
No, no it it's. When you try and install,
Leo Laporte (01:33:41):
Oh, I know what they're doing. Okay. So this is, they need to install a Ker little kernel driver. Exactly. Yeah, because what they're doing, isn't supported by apples built in frameworks for audio. Right. And anything that does what you apparently wanna do, are you routing audio and doing well, just
Caller 4 (01:34:03):
Events that aren't gonna be podcasts later. I'm just recording for
Leo Laporte (01:34:06):
They're streaming and you wanna record 'em. Yeah,
Caller 4 (01:34:09):
Exactly.
Leo Laporte (01:34:10):
Yeah. I'm sure there's ways to do that without in installing a kernel driver apple, by the way, doesn't like you to do this. That's why they say you're reducing security. If it were coming from a rogue third party, a real rogue. Yeah. Then you would be absolutely be a mistake, but because it's from rogue MEbA it's okay. But I agree with you. I don't, I don't like to do that. I'm worried about not merely security, but performance issues and so forth. These kernel extensions, apple has changed how they work. Are you on Monterey? The latest Mac OS
Caller 4 (01:34:44):
I'm on big sir. On an M one.
Leo Laporte (01:34:45):
Yeah. And I'm wondering, yeah, you probably, yeah, I think you don't want to do that. So let's find a way cuz what, if you were doing the very fancy stuff that audio hijack pro does, which re allows you, for instance, you've got a, a zoom call going on and you want the audio from that to go into recorder and then go into your headphones. It does all this fancy stuff. Then you would probably need this kernel extension, but you're not. You just wanna, do you wanna record audio and video or just record the audio?
Caller 4 (01:35:13):
Just the audio's fine. I don't need video
Leo Laporte (01:35:16):
Because there are, there's a very good program. In fact, Andy and NACO recently recommended it on our Mac break weekly show for recording anything streaming offline, but it records the video and the audio, I guess you could, at that point, just separate out the audio. Sure. If you want, it might be easier frankly, to do that. Let me go to our M B w picks page. I know you're doing that probably right now, Mikah. Just to see, cuz I remember Andy recommended a few weeks ago cuz he uses it to record exactly what you're doing basically was to, to record stuff.
Caller 4 (01:35:54):
Anything that I know is not gonna be podcast later.
Leo Laporte (01:35:57):
Yeah. And there, by the way, I, you know, I just should mention that the reason that's a, a switch you could put on YouTube or anywhere that streams to say, don't let people download this. You are downloading it to watch it. You're doing that. Right. but they, but that's because those companies don't want you to save it for whatever reason. Yeah. I honestly, I, I don't have a problem with you doing it, but you should be aware of, you're kind of using these tools to kind of bypass what's going on, you know, what the company's requested of YouTube, right. As long as you don't have a problem with it, I don't have a problem with it. You know, you know, you're not selling it. You're not making DVDs and putting 'em out. You're not
Caller 4 (01:36:35):
Even sharing it. It's just for me. Yeah,
Leo Laporte (01:36:37):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why, wait, what is it? Was it, it was a YouTube ripping program. Oh
Mikah Sargent (01:36:43):
Downey.
Leo Laporte (01:36:44):
Was it Downey was Downey. D O w N I E.
Caller 4 (01:36:47):
Yeah. The problem with Downey is I have Downey. Oh, but it only works for if you, you have to drag the URL. Yeah. Downey. Right. And it, so you can do it for like it'll work with YouTube and, and other things are there, but it doesn't seem to work with live streaming.
Leo Laporte (01:37:10):
Ah,
Mikah Sargent (01:37:11):
I'd like to read some, some details from roam MEbA itself. Cuz there are two things that it talks about and it says ACE is actually a standard audio plugin. It is not a kernel extension. However it receives enhanced privileges to access your system's audio. So apple uses their that's no problem. Internal extension verification system to do this
Leo Laporte (01:37:29):
That I have no problem with that. So you're not installing in a kernel extension, which doesn't surprise me. Apple really didn't like that. And they deprecated that over the last few Mac OSS. I wouldn't be surprised if you were, you couldn't do that at all. So it's not even doing that. It's just saying it wants to hook into the audio subsystem. I would say that's fine. Okay. I would, I would say that is not a security concern at all because they're using audio kit, Apple's own Ker extension to record the audio. They're not let me think of what. So if you use do you know about VLC? Yep. VLC will let you down. Will let you listen to any stream. You can enter the URL in and I believe VLC would let you record that. Would it not, I believe or save it rather not recorded, but save it in effect recorded. Try VLC.
Caller 4 (01:38:20):
Okay.
Leo Laporte (01:38:21):
It's free. It is cross platform windows, man. I have VLC. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great tool. You know that you can open a, any streaming URL in it and play it back and I'm pretty sure there's a, it's a complex menu structure. So it might be a hard to find, but I'm pretty sure there's a way to save it out from there.
Caller 4 (01:38:39):
I think I used to use VLC mainly to like convert old real audio.
Leo Laporte (01:38:45):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. MP4. Yeah, MP3. So, but again, because roam MEbA is a venerable and venerated long time, apple developer completely trustworthy in my opinion. I wouldn't worry about it if you've got it already, you already paid for it. Continue to use it just fine, but I believe VLC will do what you wanna do as well. Great. Yeah. VLC is one of those thank you for calling Lewis and thanks for hanging on too. I appreciate it. Vlcs one of those, you know, Swiss army knife tools at every, anybody should probably have a, a copy of in their belt tool belt. Just looking at the chat room, seeing if I have any recommendations there's other YouTube downloaders things like that. Downey is a great YouTube downloader. I, you know, if, if you've got Downey, you you're pretty much set, but he wanted something that would record, you know, like our stream. When we, when we talk about the apple event and things like that, somebody in our chat room, by the way, Mikah, I should mention this to you KA made a plugin that puts our silhouettes on the apple thing. Just like mystery science theater, 3000 no way. Yeah. So I think we're gonna use that next time.
Mikah Sargent (01:39:58):
That's really cool.
Leo Laporte (01:40:00):
You've never seen that show. That's the one where the robot and the you know, the various people are commenting on bad old movies. Yep. And they, you could see them in silhouette sitting in the movie theater,
Mikah Sargent (01:40:11):
What's it a plugin for?
Leo Laporte (01:40:12):
I think it's a browser plugin. I think that's what Golia does. Wow. Yeah.
Mikah Sargent (01:40:17):
That's really neat. Golly,
Leo Laporte (01:40:20):
G golly, G golly.
Mikah Sargent (01:40:21):
So is that using computer vision to,
Leo Laporte (01:40:25):
I think it's just a cutout. Ah, that's the next step.
Mikah Sargent (01:40:27):
Okay. So the next step,
Leo Laporte (01:40:29):
I think we need a silhouette of us. Yeah. Kind of our heads moving and
Mikah Sargent (01:40:33):
Get a green screen behind us. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (01:40:35):
Yeah. That kind of thing. And
Mikah Sargent (01:40:36):
We'll super superimpose the studio for the, for watching that way.
Leo Laporte (01:40:42):
Eighty eight eighty eight, ask Leo, that's the phone number. If you wanna talk to me and Mikah or Mikah and me, which would be more correct grammatically your generation though. They love to put me first. Not me. Have you noticed that? Not I, yeah, not. I says I'm. I was, was a copy editor for too long to be able to stand doing that improperly website, tech guy labs.com. It's free and open. That's where we put copies of the show, audio and video transcripts and links. After the fact tech guy labs do on this is episode 1875.
Leo Laporte (01:41:25):
Apple's gotten and, and rightly so. I, I understand why no podcast ads today. Thank you, Mikah. Apple's gotten very protective as they should of their OS. And so you're gonna get these secur, but the, the negative on that is you're gonna get these security warnings a lot. And that's gonna actually I think harden people to, for the typical user, especially who's going, oh God reduce security. What does this mean? Well, and then what happens is they start doing it. You willynilly cuz they go well, but I want to use this. And you know, pretty soon you don't have any security anymore. So it's always a fine line between morning, too little and too much. And apple may have shifted to the too much. So Golia how does that work? It's not a plugin. It's a webpage. Ah, but you do have us move once in a while. I see. Let me go find the image you posted. It's probably gonna be way, way back. Where did you post it in that? Probably in the news. The Twitter news feed,
Leo Laporte (01:42:26):
Twitter
Leo Laporte (01:42:27):
Events. It's really cool. Hmm. Post post.
Leo Laporte (01:42:38):
Yeah,
Leo Laporte (01:42:38):
If you have a link or something, I like it. That it's animated. It does. I mean it's as that's as good as the real deal really. Was it an event or was it news? I can never keep track. I think it was, oh God. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I don't know what our, our naming, no, it was news, but anyway, I don't see it there. Maybe it was in brick house. I don't know what it, oh, that is. Thank you. Thank you GA. So see there we are. Oh, that's adorable. Oh, actually, she's done it. That's very cool. So it's live right now. I could use it now. Oh, that's so fun. That's so cool. Oh
Mikah Sargent (01:43:29):
Yeah. And just
Leo Laporte (01:43:30):
Light movements. Yeah. Wow. Uhuh, I don't hear anything. Are you making, are you making sounds Laura? Shouldn't there be music or something? Oh, there it is. Did we break too early? No. Oh, this is something bad happening. Oh no Something horrible is happening. It just keeps going. Oh no. Well sure was shrinking was shrinking. Oh look, look. Somebody's geo geo geo searching. I don't know. Can you see, you can't see it Haven. If they grab the geo cash with a left hack, a geocasher heavens see that. So they're finding it. And now they're gonna put in, they're gonna add to the log book and they're gonna, I see that fairly frequently. Oh, that's so cute. Oh, how fun? Yeah. Isn't that cute? Patrick. Another, another couple. This time a young couple has found your geo, So lovely.
Leo Laporte (01:44:57):
Hey, Hey. How are you today? Leo Laport here. The tech guy. Time talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches. Anything with a chip in at eighty eight eighty eight, ask Leo the phone or (888) 827-5536, toll free from anywhere in the us or Canada outside that area could still call. But you have to use Skype out to, to reach us website tech guy labs.com, tech guy labs.com. My partner in crime mic, a Sargant studio to help us answering your questions and so forth. You have to feel bad for the poor folks at meta. Actually everybody in the Silicon valley area is coming back to work. Country companies are saying back to work. Yes, bless their poor hearts. Bless their poor hearts. Well, meta employees are very upset. Baseball meta Facebook, same thing. Facebook's parent company says they'll no longer get free. Valet service and meals will be delayed. Lavish onsite perks. A thing of the past for employees at Facebook who will now have to do their own laundry due to company setbacks. Apparently, and Google did this too. You, you just, you know, they don't watch you leaving. Yes. You just bring your laundry to work and they, you got free laundry, free, dry cleaning, valet service. The daily free dinner is no longer at 6:00 PM. It's at six 30. Not sure why don't know why this is from the New York times.
Leo Laporte (01:46:37):
Headline Facebook's parent company will make employees do their own laundry. And man are they upset? The new dinner time actually is kind of an interesting thing. You know why they change it by half an hour? Because the shuttle to take you home leaves at six.
Mikah Sargent (01:46:56):
Okay? That's
Leo Laporte (01:46:57):
Not. So,
Mikah Sargent (01:46:59):
So basically it encourages you to stay later. If you're gonna have the dinner instead of going home, but
Leo Laporte (01:47:03):
Then you have to sleep in your office cuz there's no shuttle. So what was happening apparently is we swinging by the dinner, getting a, to go box and getting on the shuttle And bringing him home, getting, bringing why not let 'em
Mikah Sargent (01:47:17):
Exactly
Leo Laporte (01:47:17):
Making money. The changes says the New York times could be a warning shot for employees at other companies that are preparing to return to the office. After two years of pandemic, Google, meta and others have long offered creature comforts like onsite medical attention, sushi buffets, actually. Google's amazing. They have many different restaurants. So you can say, yeah, what do you want tonight? Sushi? Should we have Thai food? Candy stores just like candy up, like just free candy. Be bag chairs. I hope they don't cut back on the bean bag chair. We
Mikah Sargent (01:47:53):
Knew when he's taking some bean bags out, they're taking a few beans outta the bean bags. A
Leo Laporte (01:47:56):
Few. Yeah. That's it. 10% reduction in bean count. So it's not quite as comfortable. I do remember when we when I worked for cable channel tech TV 20 years ago, we knew the end was ni when they stopped offering free oatmeal in the company, kitchens, oatmeal
Mikah Sargent (01:48:16):
Of all things,
Leo Laporte (01:48:17):
Free oatmeal. So as a result, notice we do John, do we still have free oatmeal here? We have free. Yeah. We have oatmeal, cuppa noodles. We even have the fancy, you know, a ramen. Yeah. Yeah.
Mikah Sargent (01:48:31):
It's not just your regular
Leo Laporte (01:48:32):
Old. No. However, Mikah, I'm sorry to say the shuttle bus is ended no more shuttle. We're actually, it's hard to get people to come back and I don't blame 'em if you could, you found out over the last two years and it's been exactly two years. We sent employees home. People found out we could, they could do their job AB at home. Why should they come in? Especially with gas prices,
Mikah Sargent (01:48:54):
Right? That's the thing, the big thing right now, gas prices are even more expensive. And then you're asking them to come back at this time. And that is, I, I guess what I feel is you don't get to do both or you shouldn't get to do both, which is they're they're asking not. And I I'm talking about, so for example, Facebook, they are inviting people to come back now or they're telling people they have to come back. Why are they now lowering the amenities? Oh, you're right
Leo Laporte (01:49:16):
Before increase the amenities. Yeah. Give them a reason, you know, something to make up for
Mikah Sargent (01:49:20):
The fact or like them work from
Leo Laporte (01:49:21):
Home. The gas is $6 a gallon. Yeah. Most engineers can, can, you know, programmers, coders, designers can and probably work better at home. Who wants, you
Mikah Sargent (01:49:31):
Know,
Leo Laporte (01:49:32):
Around you, all those meetings. Yeah. The time suck people come around and start talking about, you know, pickle ball while you're trying to write the login code. It's just no fun. Yeah. So I understand that, but you better be coming in and that's all I kidding. I, I completely understand that. It's a, it's a lot to ask. We've spoiled. Everybody's spoiled now. 88 88. Ask Leo, that's the phone number back to the phones we go. Kenny is on the line from cotton town, Tennessee. Hello, Kenny.
Caller 5 (01:50:05):
Hello Leo. Hello Mikah. How you guys doing? Doing
Leo Laporte (01:50:07):
Great. Well, thank you. Hope you doing call too. What's up?
Caller 5 (01:50:11):
Well, I had two questions about apple as far as the max studio slash display as well as major league baseball, but you guys kind of covered most of my topics. See,
Leo Laporte (01:50:22):
We keep you on hold so long that all your questions get answered until the answered by the end.
Caller 5 (01:50:28):
Most most of them are, but there are still a few, oh good. Kind of scratch up. But before I do that, it's once they go galaxy go Bruins and GOs all LA all the way. But since we are in that sports mindset with apple and major league baseball, you guys kind of tune in on major league baseball and UHS
Leo Laporte (01:50:47):
Strike is over. Lockout is over. We're gonna begin is coming back, which is, you know, good news for baseball fans. We're not gonna miss any of our 162 games.
Caller 5 (01:51:00):
Yikes. Yeah. The only thing that I didn't like about the presentation was one was quick. I would've expected like Bob Costes to come out and say, oh, a well, let's take a look at the DL list. Why don't we go down the field? And that's Siri My line, like
Leo Laporte (01:51:15):
I so annoying. I don't know if you've noticed this in NFL games where they have little Siri, blip, verts, little short advertisements where they say, Hey, Hey, you know who, you know, who led the league in running you know, rushing TDS or whatever. And it's so annoying now. I don't know how they do it somehow. So it doesn't actually trigger Siri. Thank goodness. But it's still annoying, you know, I feel like they want trigger Siri, but apple won't let 'em like apple said no, Uhuh, there was briefly a burger king ad. I don't, if you remember this, that triggered Google to look up on Wikipedia. And then what was really bad is that they modified the Wikipedia entry so that it would then basically read and add to you.
Caller 5 (01:52:07):
Oh
Leo Laporte (01:52:08):
Wow. That was terrible. It was, this was back in 20 sec 17. So the 15 second ad features someone in a burger king uniform leaning into the camera before saying, okay, you know, who, what is the Whopper burger? And then if you had a Google home near your TV, it would wake up and begin reading the Wikipedia entry for the Whopper. And furthermore they'd modified it. So it was an ad for the Whopper, which really annoyed, I think pretty much everyone. Anyway, it, it would begin with this sentence. The Whopper sandwich is the signature hamburger products sold by international fast food re front chain burger king, and it's Australian franchise hungry jacks, which I never heard of. Anyway, what did you want to know KA? I'm sorry. I, well,
Caller 5 (01:53:02):
Just the fact that they're now in the aim and you kind of hit it on the NFL, but I can also see him go after NBA and MLS as well, but also NBCs back in the baseball game as well with peacock and I guess the streaming wars aren't over, right?
Leo Laporte (01:53:16):
Yeah. Ready? Streaming is wars. This is what's really, the war is not against other streamers. I mean, it is as much as it's against broadcast and if you're a fan of, of sports or almost anything, and you wanna watch it on free broadcast television, your days are numbered. Those two major league baseball games, I believe will not be available on broadcast. Maybe I'm wrong. NFL Sunday night will not be available on cable. I see. Think if, if Amazon or what they've been doing is a hybrid up to now, but really the long term goal is to say, yeah, you have to subscribe to this streaming platform. If you wanna see your games. And I think that's terrible. You don't not only will you not get it on broadcast, but you actually will have to you're right. Subscribe to peacock and apple TV and Amazon prime. And it's crazy, but there's money in it. Right.
Caller 5 (01:54:11):
It's crazy. But you got, yeah, but you gotta consider about 30 years ago when ESPN first began broadcasting. Well,
Leo Laporte (01:54:17):
ESPN did it. That's right.
Caller 5 (01:54:19):
Probably the same argument. Oh, why do I need to pay for something I can get for free? Those? It turns out people do. If the quality is good, like for, with ESPN they just got Joe Buck from Fox to improve Monday night football
Leo Laporte (01:54:31):
Cause there's money. And
Caller 5 (01:54:32):
Watch Monday night football.
Leo Laporte (01:54:33):
ESPN is the single most expensive cable channel from the cable provider's point of view. It's almost $15 a month. They pay ESPN to have that and they can't not have it right now. Go ahead and get rid of your ESPN, see how your customer they'd be furious. So in the long run, I think it hurts customers because now we're locked in. We have to have ESPN cable companies have to have ESPN and then ESPN raises its prices.
Caller 5 (01:55:02):
Yep. It just never ends on that front. As far as the Mac studio and studio display, I'm gonna be kind of like Phil J fry and future drama saying shut up and take my money.
Leo Laporte (01:55:13):
That's how apple knows it's it's it's fans will act. And I bet you, I noticed that the, the ship dates for both the, the fat Mac and the studio slipped by months. Now, if you don't, you know, if you didn't order immediately, I was, I actually ordered during the event and I'm gonna get it on Friday, cuz I try to get these things fast so I can review 'em for the show. So I'll have it for next week's show. But if you waited, how, when are you getting yours? My, the, the max.
Mikah Sargent (01:55:43):
Oh yeah. Actually. Did you already order yours Kenny?
Caller 5 (01:55:47):
No, not yet. I'm trying to get my money saved up for it. I'm gonna try until
Leo Laporte (01:55:51):
I've been saving my pennies. I knew this was gonna happen. So I've been saving, I've been saving up already, just little, little max studio fund. But let me see. It says avail, you know, you could order now and they say available as soon as March 18th. Well, good luck. Let me just build a, build a Mac studio right now and see if you order it today. April 5th for the the max and you want the ultra April 26th, which tells me either the ultras and shorter ply or it's more desirable. That's the $4,000. Get that the $4,000 max studio. You have to wait till April 26th, more than a month, month, six weeks.
Mikah Sargent (01:56:35):
Mine says between March 30th and April 6th.
Leo Laporte (01:56:38):
That's the one you ordered?
Mikah Sargent (01:56:39):
Yeah, the max studio with max,
Leo Laporte (01:56:42):
If I hadn't jumped on it during the event, I don't know if I'd be getting it on Friday. Well, are you excited, Kenny?
Caller 5 (01:56:49):
Oh, I'm excited for it. I guess this and you guys kind of hinted on it. That it's pretty much the end of the IMEC as we know it, as far as the all in one in the sense that they're now making you having to buy kind of a secondary item and they're getting into the display, which is something that they used to right into. And now they're vaccinated in a big way, but I it's my understanding and maybe Mikah may know more about it. It's not pure 4k, is it?
Mikah Sargent (01:57:16):
It's not 4k at all. It's 5k.
Leo Laporte (01:57:18):
It's better than 4k. Okay. It's one better. All right. And the strong rumor, I, I sources say that apple will not do a 27 inch iMac ever again, or an iMac pro they'll continue to offer the 24 inch, which is the kind of the low end, pretty iMac for people who care more about looks. Yeah. You know, or, or, you know, on the executives desk or that kind of thing, because it's simple and pretty. But for people who really want an iMac to be a full blown power Mac no, you're gonna have to get the separates, which makes sense. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number. Thanks. It's good to talk to you, Kenny. Thanks for the call. Tech guy labs.com. The website, Leo Laport, Mikah Sargant taking your calls, more calls coming up right after this. I'm now thinking I'm gonna replace, What do you want?
Mikah Sargent (01:58:14):
I was just adjusting my volume down a little bit.
Leo Laporte (01:58:16):
It's a little loud. It's a little
Mikah Sargent (01:58:18):
Loud I had to, to it up or earlier.
Leo Laporte (01:58:21):
Quiet. Now it's gonna be loud. This, I don't think this Mac can go to Monterey, right? So that means,
Mikah Sargent (01:58:31):
Oh, what year is that one?
Leo Laporte (01:58:32):
Checking for updates. Let's just see, I think. Yeah, no, this one's 2014, late 2014. So it's so this is this is the older one stuck on big, sir. So, and this is nice. It's a nice 5k iMac, but
Mikah Sargent (01:58:50):
Is that the iMac pro or is
Leo Laporte (01:58:53):
This is the five, what they call the 5k? I had an iMac pro 2017 and that's what Lisa's using. He
Mikah Sargent (01:59:00):
Got it. Got it.
Leo Laporte (01:59:04):
Yeah. They're more of a slate. Gray. Yeah, that's right. So she has the pro in her office. The home computer is like this one stuck pre pre Monterey. So I'm thinking in, you know, I tried, I tried putting my 14 inch MacBook pro M one pro on the 55 inch. I'll let it home. It's too big. It's just too dang big for using. So I think ma my original plan was, oh, I'm gonna get the high end 5,000 other Mac studio and put that on the 55 inch. Oh. Led and then I'll be in hog heaven. And now I'm thinking that may not, I don't think I'm gonna use it that way. So I'm thinking maybe give her that and then to use with the studio monitor and then bring in the lower end, the, the max, which isn't that low end to replace this. And then that LG monitor would here. And then, so this will, this will go away. Put this, I dunno. What would he do with this, this one, John given that you can't Yeah, we'd, we'd use it for some sort of silly thing. 55 inches. And I'm only, I mean, like I'm four feet away. I'm a little beyond arm's length, man.
Mikah Sargent (02:00:31):
That's a,
Leo Laporte (02:00:31):
A lot. It's good for gaming. Yeah. But, but you just to move your head around, sitting
Mikah Sargent (02:00:35):
Around and everything.
Leo Laporte (02:00:36):
Oh, it's a lot of massing. I'm thinking it's not, I don't know.
Mikah Sargent (02:00:41):
It seems like
Leo Laporte (02:00:41):
A lot. I have a week to figure this out. I
Mikah Sargent (02:00:45):
Dunno. When does her studio
Leo Laporte (02:00:48):
Studio come? Not for a while.
Mikah Sargent (02:00:50):
I think we probably cuz you also got her a terabyte instead. I think we both did the same.
Leo Laporte (02:00:55):
I got her a terabyte on the, on the, on the studio. I
Mikah Sargent (02:00:59):
Can't remember. I think we ended up getting the same one. And so we're both 30th. April 1st.
Leo Laporte (02:01:05):
Yeah. I think she March 30th. Yeah. Cause it's a BT BT,
Mikah Sargent (02:01:09):
But mine also says preparing to ship. So I don't know how long it'll stay in preparing to ship, but it would cool if
Leo Laporte (02:01:17):
It came soon. See my orders. What are my orders? What my orders, max studio display in progress and my max studio preparing to ship. Okay. So is mine mine? So I don't is, which is closer order in progress or preparing to ship
Mikah Sargent (02:01:34):
Ship, preparing to ship is
Leo Laporte (02:01:35):
Closer. Okay. So this one, well yeah, well, okay. This one is processing for Friday, March 18th.
Mikah Sargent (02:01:46):
That's the ultra. Your ultra. Yeah. Nice.
Leo Laporte (02:01:50):
And then yeah, that, okay. So that is the order in progress and then preparing to ship the is, is for March 30th. So I think it's the other way around.
Mikah Sargent (02:02:02):
Yeah, that's weird.
Leo Laporte (02:02:04):
So preparing to ship, maybe it'll come sooner. I don't know. And then studio display's also is studio display is ordering progress and that's April 7th. That's what yours is as well.
Mikah Sargent (02:02:21):
My studio display is gonna come on March 18th. Oh
Leo Laporte (02:02:24):
Leo. Laporte the tech guy, eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number, my sergeants with me and on the line. It's Aela like the train. You probably really don't like that train. Do you from west Hills, California. Hi Ella. Oh, he's she's talking to somebody else. Are you talking to somebody else? I don't wanna interrupt. I don't want, I also don't wanna overhear, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know where I'm going with that. So let's say hi to Derek in Los Angeles. Don't wanna Snoop on people's phone calls. Hi Derek.
Caller 6 (02:02:59):
Yes. Hello, Mr. Leo. Thank you. I called you two weeks ago as to where to find a replacement printhead for my EPON carriage printer.
Leo Laporte (02:03:09):
Yes. Were you able to find one?
Caller 6 (02:03:12):
Well, you mentioned not, not yet. You mentioned checking show notes. I thought that's what you said, which I understood
Leo Laporte (02:03:20):
Guy labs.com. Yeah. Did that link not get there?
Caller 6 (02:03:26):
I applied, well just for the latest, I figured that shown that would be in the TWiT community and I applied for that and was approved.
Leo Laporte (02:03:36):
No, that's not where it is. It's on the website@techguylabs.com and I apply for the confusion, although the community, which is our forums for our podcast network is a good place to ask questions. And it may well be somebody in there who has a good answer. Okay. You know, always, always good to rely on the auspices of the community, but the show notes are on the website@techguylabs.com and that's by show numbers. So you'd have to go back, I guess, a couple weeks to whatever that show is.
Caller 6 (02:04:07):
Oh, I see. Cause I'd have to be able to listen to listen to that again.
Leo Laporte (02:04:12):
Yeah. You wanna hear yourself on the radio? You could do that. Yep.
Caller 6 (02:04:19):
Okay. So, but I, I was approved for, to, for, for the the community community. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm calling it the Leo verse. Yes. And and I checked on the, I clicked on the approval link I'm receiving safari cannot open page. Oh. Because safari cannot establish a secure connection.
Leo Laporte (02:04:42):
Oh my server. I have not heard about that. So I'm pretty sure there are people using safari. What I probably I'm using safari with it. So I'm not sure make sure your date and time is correct. And are you do you keep your system I'm up to date?
Caller 6 (02:04:58):
No.
Leo Laporte (02:04:59):
Ah,
Speaker 14 (02:05:00):
There you go.
Caller 6 (02:05:01):
It is OSX L Cappi tan.
Leo Laporte (02:05:05):
So you wanna, at least safari can be updated separately. You wanna make sure you've got the latest version of safari and I'll tell this is a complicated process. What's happening is the browser is saying, I can't take you to this site because the certificate on this site cannot be validated. So it's protecting you. This is what HTTPS, how HTTPS works. It's a certificate based system. Now I'm really getting in the weeds here. But if you click the you know, in the browser, you can actually see the certificate. The certificate is a little piece of software that I run on the web server that all web servers that are secure run that validate that it is who it says it is. It's issued by something called a CA a certificate authority. In fact, this is what we were talking about at the beginning of the show, we were saying Russia is creating its own CAS because the certificate authorities around the world don't want to do business with Russia or in many cases, can't because of sanctions.
Leo Laporte (02:06:14):
And so they can't transfer, you know, payments. And so Russia's web websites are starting to have this problem where their certificates are out of date and out of date certificate will generally the, the browser will say, I, in fact, you've seen this before proceed, do you sure this is not safe? The site is not. The certificate is out of date. So that can go both ways. So the browser certificate can be out of date as well. Browsers download when they're updated, they download the latest certificate store. This, by the way is the also part of the problem that Russia's gonna have because their certificate authorities won't be in that listing. So if your browsers add date, you could get this. I know our certificates are up to it on TWiT community. So update your browser. Leo Laporte the tech guy. Hello? Dicky D getting ready, wearing that nice yellow plaid shirt. He can't hear anything I'm saying he can't The years, 2099 infectious diseases, property. I mean, poverty, crime and war are things of the past, but printers are still terrible. Yeah, that's true. Well, we still, the question is will we still need printers right in 2099? And my guess is, yes. You remember when I, once I had somebody say paperless office will be a thing. As soon as paperless bathrooms are a thing. And then now I realize I've got a Toto toilet. I was gonna say, I don't need a printer anymore. Yeah. I also
Mikah Sargent (02:08:09):
Use a be day, but I do use a printer.
Leo Laporte (02:08:12):
Leo Laport, the tech guy with Mikah, a Sargant tech guy to two D D Bartolo, Mads Madis writer coming up now, let's see if Ella can talk to us. Hi, Ella.
Caller 7 (02:08:23):
I'm finally here. I'm so sorry about earlier.
Leo Laporte (02:08:26):
Oh, I just didn't want eaves drop on your conversation.
Caller 7 (02:08:29):
I'm not the apple store as a matter of fact, trying to get tech help, but I got you instead.
Leo Laporte (02:08:33):
I love it. She's at the apple store she tells, so it was a genius. Nevermind. I've got Leo on the line.
Caller 7 (02:08:41):
Are you ready? Yes. Okay. I have a iPad pro a newer one about a year old. I'm trying to do a live podcast on speaker and I have two microphones and two headphones. My, as you know, there's only one input on this iPad pro versus a laptop has many inputs. Can I do it on my iPad pro with a bunch of you know, like accessories,
Leo Laporte (02:09:02):
Not doggles, but with a mixer you can. So,
Caller 7 (02:09:06):
Okay. Like I have a little mini separate preamp thing where I can tell you
Leo Laporte (02:09:09):
What you, what you need is something that has a USB out that can be plugged into the iPad pro Right. And then itself, it has multiple inputs for microphones or whatever else, and it mixes it down and sends it over to the iPad. Pro in fact, there's a great product from Barringer, B E H R I N G E R. That's designed for doing exactly this
Caller 7 (02:09:33):
Really?
Leo Laporte (02:09:33):
Yeah.
Caller 7 (02:09:34):
Do you know what it's called?
Leo Laporte (02:09:35):
I, I own one. Oh, wow.
Caller 7 (02:09:39):
Is it a plug-in thing that will plug into that?
Leo Laporte (02:09:41):
No, it's, it's a mixer. It's, it's really a mixer. What you want is a mixer. That'll work with the iPad pro because, and that means a USB mixer, most mixers are not USB, but nowadays, thanks to computers. There are lots of, of them. What you'd really like is a mixer that knows it's talking to an iPad, has iPad software that you could then use to control the mixer. And that's what I'm talking about with the Barringer.
Caller 7 (02:10:11):
Now, do I need all this for two microphones, which is talking and two headphones. It's nothing I can. Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:10:17):
Well, here's another, here's another way to do it. Yeah, I understand. The problem is two. Is it one? No problem. And you know that one's easy. Yeah. It's two as any, one more than one is the problem. It doesn't care if it's two or 200. So there is a company that I like a lot called zoom that makes a pod podcast mixer. That is a little less expensive that does have in fact, four mics. They might even have one though, two mics that it's zoom corp.com. And it also is a USB mixer. So it will plug now. I don't know if it has PO iPod software with it that the Barringer
Caller 7 (02:10:55):
Two headphones and two microphones.
Leo Laporte (02:10:57):
Yes.
Caller 7 (02:10:59):
Oh, wow.
Leo Laporte (02:11:00):
Great. I got one for my son. He uses it actually for his his podcast. Believe it or not.
Caller 7 (02:11:06):
So I don't have to go do a laptop then.
Leo Laporte (02:11:08):
No. now honestly, you don't even need the IPO had, you can record in this zoom device. I
Caller 7 (02:11:18):
Need speaker.
Leo Laporte (02:11:20):
Oh, you need the software. I get it.
Caller 7 (02:11:22):
Yeah. I'm using speaker podcast. You
Leo Laporte (02:11:25):
Knows as long as speaker can take a single input and, and understand what's going on. Yeah. You'll be fine.
Caller 7 (02:11:33):
They are because I have the highest subscription. I think that they,
Leo Laporte (02:11:36):
Well, it's not a question of money. It's, it's just a question of capabilities. So you'll probably end up mixing this in the zoom and then cuz it has volume controls for all of it. It's called the, I think it's called contract P four P four. Yeah. I
Caller 7 (02:11:53):
Can't, I can't just get an accessory like to go into that one input and it has a bunch of outputs, different ones. That's
Leo Laporte (02:11:58):
What? This is
Caller 7 (02:11:59):
A mixer.
Leo Laporte (02:11:59):
Yeah. That's what, well that's what a mixer is. That's all a mixer. Does it takes multiple inputs and mixes them down. That's what a, oh, I see. That's literally what a mixer is. So the pod, the pod track P four, $219. It has had two headphones, Jack sixes four. Wow. For microphone inputs. You might, you never know. You might add what's your podcast.
Caller 7 (02:12:21):
It's called a chance to have it all. And we're just doing a new pop now. We've been on for 10 years. I do it with a guy from red bone, you know, seventies band red bone that come and get your low. Oh
Leo Laporte (02:12:30):
Yeah. Love red bone. Yeah.
Caller 7 (02:12:33):
That's my that's my ex-husband actually. But we do a podcast center for years.
Leo Laporte (02:12:37):
Fun.
Caller 7 (02:12:38):
Global listeners. I like speaker professors live chat. Yes. We have people literally
Leo Laporte (02:12:42):
All over the place. It's nice to have that kind of feedback while you're doing it. We, we have live chat too. And I agree. So the only question is, well, there's no questions. You can run speaker on the iPad. You will be plugging in this P four it'll act as if it's one microphone. So the iPad goes, yes, I hear the input and it'll go to speaker you the nice thing about this. If your ex starts talking too much, you can just turn him down on the P four. Cause you can.
Caller 7 (02:13:11):
It's usually me who talks too much.
Leo Laporte (02:13:12):
Well don't let him anywhere near the buttons. Okay. So the P four is really, it's small. It's like a little cassette recorder, lets you plug in up to four microphones up to four headphones. Each he phone has its own independent volume, which is nice. So he's been in red bone. He probably is deaf because he's been rocking for years.
Caller 7 (02:13:30):
Exactly. Gonna go into my one, my one little input in my
Leo Laporte (02:13:34):
Ipad. And it all goes into your one little input. Exactly. Here's the other benefit. There's
Caller 7 (02:13:39):
A lot to handle for one little input, but
Leo Laporte (02:13:41):
Well, but that's what a mixer is, right? When you have one input, you can have one mic. You want more than one. You need a way to mix them together. And that's what a mixer does. Right? 200 bucks is nothing.
Caller 7 (02:13:51):
Have my playlist of the songs that I'm playing, which are on my playlist. Oh,
Leo Laporte (02:13:54):
Get ready. Here's another, here's another thing because you have foreign inputs, you could also hook up a music input. He could have his guitar hooked up to the zoom.
Caller 7 (02:14:03):
Oh, well, no, we're not going that crazy.
Leo Laporte (02:14:05):
But you could could.
Caller 7 (02:14:07):
I could though. That's good to know. Yeah. In case he feels the, the desire to
Leo Laporte (02:14:10):
Live. I, I always thought it'd be, I wish I were a keyboard player. Cause I always thought it'd be fun to have a keyboard hooked up while I'm doing the show and I could play a little di do do exactly. Wouldn't that be fun? That's a great idea. So he could do that with this P four. The other thing the P four is good at the zoom records as well. So if you didn't have the iPad or as a backup yeah, exactly. A backup. You could make a podcast out of it without, right?
Caller 7 (02:14:37):
Yeah. Now can I call back or look on the website and see this, this show again to
Leo Laporte (02:14:42):
Yes, but I'll, I'll just tell you now and we'll put it in the show notes. It's zoom, corp.com and the podcast track P four. But we'll put that in the show notes. So you can go to the tech highlights. I
Caller 7 (02:14:52):
Listen to you all the time. I love your show and I'm can't believe I got to talk to you.
Leo Laporte (02:14:56):
We're gonna play some red bone music when we come back. I think, I think that's
Caller 7 (02:14:59):
Man. I'm telling you when we do our, our podcasts, we are gonna shout you out too. Cause I love your show.
Leo Laporte (02:15:04):
Oh, bless you. Well, yes. When you have the new, let you know when, when he's laying down some licks with his guitar, is he a guitar player or what is he?
Caller 7 (02:15:11):
He's the one look, he's the one who and don't don't don't don't don't don't he's a bass player.
Leo Laporte (02:15:16):
Oh, even better. You could have Seinfeld like stings. Yes. Do do do do that would be fun.
Caller 7 (02:15:23):
Wait till I tell him that you like red bone, he's gonna love it. Oh, you know he's 82 right now, but going on 62,
Leo Laporte (02:15:28):
You know, this is how I know I'm old. Cuz all my rock heroes are in their cell and eighties.
Caller 7 (02:15:34):
I'm telling you, well I'm 60, I'm turn 60. So you know, it's all it. It's only a number it's
Leo Laporte (02:15:39):
Only a number. So what's the name of the show again? So people can find it. What's the name of the show
Caller 7 (02:15:44):
It's called chance to have it all
Leo Laporte (02:15:46):
Chance to have it all. And is it only on speaker on his
Caller 7 (02:15:49):
Newest CD? Pat Vegas is a red when and a that's our theme. Song's well, but it's red bone. Yeah. Chance to have it all show. And we're all over apple, apple.
Leo Laporte (02:15:58):
I see it. I see it. It's on all the podcast platforms. How exciting.
Caller 7 (02:16:03):
Thanks guys.
Leo Laporte (02:16:04):
Hey, thank you. There's one other device. I, I, I bought in a it's coming day now. That is a recording stay and alone recording device. And it does something that I'm just learning about now called 32 bit recording. Okay. So you know, when we record CDs and stuff, they're in 16 bit, you know, or, or sometimes 24 bit recording. So the way digitization works, you slice it up, say 44,100 times a second into slices. And then you digitize those slices using a 16 bit number that's CD quality, 44,100 samples, a second, each sample 16 bits. That's 65,000 possibilities. But you can also record it. 24 bits turns out if you recorded 32 bits, you have so many bits that you can't clip. You can't record too loud. Got it. So it gives you the, this is a new thing. I'm just starting to learn about this 32 bit recording the zoom at F three, same company does 32 bit recording, which means you don't have to worry about how loud or soft anything is. You can fix it after the fact cuz it'll never clip. So when I get this, I'll talk a little more about it. This thing's even smaller. This is tiny little thing. The zoom F three little more expensive too. Leo Laport, the tech guy, Dick de Beto coming up.
Mikah Sargent (02:17:38):
I just wanna spin a lasso.
Leo Laporte (02:17:40):
I love it.
Dick DeBartolo (02:17:42):
Do
Leo Laporte (02:17:43):
Bogie OGI OGI is this, what is this? That sound like Nile Nile's Rogers playing the, the bass there. Not, not red bone chic. It is Nile Rogers. Leo Laporte everybody dance and dancing into the studio right now. Dick D Bartolo mad magazine's mad writer in the GWE he's wearing disco plaids today. I don't know. Was that a big thing in disco? FLA plant flannel shirts.
Dick DeBartolo (02:18:14):
Well, it is now
Leo Laporte (02:18:18):
Because all the discos are
Dick DeBartolo (02:18:20):
Little
Leo Laporte (02:18:20):
Chilly, little chilly. Yeah,
Dick DeBartolo (02:18:22):
Exactly. Exactly.
Leo Laporte (02:18:23):
So Dick joins us every week to talk about a gizmo, a gadget, a a thing. He's our gizmo wizard or GI whiz for short what's up Dickie D
Dick DeBartolo (02:18:32):
You know what I found? This was popular many years ago, toy fair. Probably 15 years ago had a dozen of them. Then they faded away and I was on Amazon and it seems like they were like a dozen of them again. And they are floating Globes
Leo Laporte (02:18:50):
Floating. That's just go. But this is so weird.
Dick DeBartolo (02:18:56):
Scott Wolf
Leo Laporte (02:18:57):
Talking about,
Dick DeBartolo (02:18:57):
We
Leo Laporte (02:18:58):
Were yes. Cause Scott has one in his studio
Dick DeBartolo (02:19:02):
That does he have the, the, the one with the globe and the L E D lights.
Mikah Sargent (02:19:06):
I don't know. I didn't see it. I just lost one in the, in the chat.
Dick DeBartolo (02:19:09):
I have a little video. Yeah. Let's
Leo Laporte (02:19:12):
Think you can. I think so. GI whiz. I'm gonna check it out. GIW dot G ZW, Iz dot B I Z. Do you ever do that by the way, spell it out loud. Every single time you type it.
Mikah Sargent (02:19:23):
I do not.
Leo Laporte (02:19:24):
Okay.
Dick DeBartolo (02:19:26):
Sorry. Yes. And yes
Leo Laporte (02:19:28):
And no. You're right. You shouldn't it's like reading out loud. Oh, this is cool. So it's got like a C
Dick DeBartolo (02:19:36):
A sea, like a C yes. A sea stand. Yeah. And then the, the, the globe is small. It's it's about three and a half inches. It
Leo Laporte (02:19:44):
Magnets.
Dick DeBartolo (02:19:46):
Well, it's magnetic. I mean, but once you, you have to be very careful in the old days, you would put your finger there as a spacer and hold it there gently,
Leo Laporte (02:19:57):
Slowly. Yeah.
Dick DeBartolo (02:19:58):
Right. But now it comes with a suspension tool.
Leo Laporte (02:20:02):
Oh, okay. Basically a plastic finger. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well
Dick DeBartolo (02:20:07):
A plastic finger and they just put it up there and then just slide this guy out and then it just hangs there. And for some reason it spins for about a half hour and it just hangs there. Emotional is. But if you, if you're very gentle with it, you can just take your finger and give it a little spin and it'll go for at least another half hour.
Leo Laporte (02:20:27):
Cause there's hardly any friction, Dick magnets. How do they work?
Dick DeBartolo (02:20:32):
You know, I, I don't know. I'm trying to put magnets in a mini mirrored ball so I could take the globe out. Yes. And then have a spinning mirrored ball. But it it's really
Leo Laporte (02:20:47):
Neat, you know, I don't want to burst your bubble or anything. Yeah. But our 19 year old has had a green bay Packers helmet. That's been floating in space. It doesn't ever seem to stop by the way it spins. Oh. So there must be something that they're putting in there to give it a little perpetual motion.
Dick DeBartolo (02:21:07):
Oh that's
Leo Laporte (02:21:08):
But yeah. He's had that. Well, maybe
Dick DeBartolo (02:21:10):
He just, you coming up the stairs
Leo Laporte (02:21:11):
And he spins it as soon as like,
Dick DeBartolo (02:21:13):
Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:21:14):
Oh no, we gotta start again. Very interesting. So this is called what? The M O K O Q I.
Dick DeBartolo (02:21:22):
Yeah. You know, but don't buy that one because I paid it's $42 and there's a five off coupon. Okay. But I found what looks like the identical thing for 10 bucks less.
Leo Laporte (02:21:34):
Oh,
Dick DeBartolo (02:21:35):
Okay. And I put a link to that one too. It says this, this one looks exactly the same
Leo Laporte (02:21:40):
Different brand name, but probably different brand. Yeah. This ones called gr gr yeah. GRS. Jesus is, these are all, you know, these are it's one company in China that makes 'em and absolutely. Yeah. It's just a bunch of drop ship sellers that sell it on Alibaba or
Dick DeBartolo (02:21:56):
Whatever. Yes. Yes. And you know, Chad, Chad, I was saying, how do they conf the names? And, and Chad said, they smashed their head into a keyboard.
Leo Laporte (02:22:05):
Whatever comes out.
Dick DeBartolo (02:22:07):
That's the brand, that's the brand, the other
Leo Laporte (02:22:08):
Trend you see on Amazon because they want every keyword under the sun. Yes. Is they get these, this is the real full name of it. According to Amazon, the greaseless magnetic levitation floating world map globe with sea shape based floating globe with L E D lights, great fathers, great fathers, students, teacher, business, boyfriend, birthday gift for home office, desk decoration. But it is a lot cheaper, 26, 99 right now.
Dick DeBartolo (02:22:34):
Yeah. And, and it's really neat. I, I bought it thinking but if I could find a place in my studio, I have so much mad stuff everywhere. I don't know where I can display it. It, but it, I, I, I think it's really,
Leo Laporte (02:22:46):
It's very cool. Unlike it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like the it's spinning and the good news is you can have it. You can have the sunrise in the east or the west, depending on which way you wanna spin it. Oh, this even has the little tool. This is, yeah. You're not sacrificing anything.
Dick DeBartolo (02:23:03):
No. The little suspension tool I was depressed when it said, if you lose your suspension tool, use your finger. I, well, wait a minute.
Leo Laporte (02:23:10):
Fingers are back at suspension tool. Yeah. Yes.
Dick DeBartolo (02:23:15):
Yeah.
Leo Laporte (02:23:15):
Well, that's very cool. GIW that's dot biz. You can read all about, you can see video and then you can also get the link to the $26 verse and different colors. So forth. So on. Yes.
Dick DeBartolo (02:23:28):
Yes. The one, the one I have, I is silver world on black globe.
Leo Laporte (02:23:33):
I think that looks really cool. The silver I, I
Dick DeBartolo (02:23:36):
Do too. Yeah. The black I do too.
Leo Laporte (02:23:38):
Yeah. Globe. Very cool. Now, if you're at the website, you should probably have some fun there. There's all sorts of stuff got on his website, including, well, so let me give you some, I'll give you a be your tour guide. If you click the blue button that says the GWiz visits, the tech guy, then you get to see the globe. But at the top, there's an even bluer button. The GWIS it's actually gads. I showed on world news. Now that's the ABC overnight show on that every month. He also has. If you look at the red button there on the right, what the heck is it the new, what the heck is it? Contest has begun. It's a red button. Everyone knows it's a red button. I don't know how you're gonna have any com competition here, but you know, maybe you could say even more about what red button does when you push it. Oh,
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:26):
That's good. Yeah. Good.
Leo Laporte (02:24:27):
Yeah. It's probably, you know, did
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:29):
Maka know who red buttons was? No,
Leo Laporte (02:24:32):
I've never heard of red buttons. Oh, Clem. CTLE you must have heard of Clem.
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:38):
You did
Mikah Sargent (02:24:38):
Finally get me. Yes.
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:40):
Here we got
Leo Laporte (02:24:40):
Em. Remember Clem CTLE hopper.
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:42):
Sure,
Leo Laporte (02:24:43):
Sure,
Dick DeBartolo (02:24:43):
Sure. Of course you do. There
Leo Laporte (02:24:46):
Used to be a sandwich shop in Santa Cruz that had the Clem CDLE hopper sandwich.
Mikah Sargent (02:24:50):
Are you lying? Is this all just 11?
Leo Laporte (02:24:52):
Not lying. We're not playing you Mikah. This is all
Mikah Sargent (02:24:57):
Real. I feel played like a CDLE hopper,
Leo Laporte (02:24:59):
Like a Clem CDLE hopper the red button or whatever that is. If you can identify it. You're in the running for 12, actually only six copies of autographed copies of mad magazine for the right answer. There's 12 for the wrong answer. So, you know, I think you probably could figure out what you should do. But if you know what it is, it's kind of satisfying to say, I know exactly what that is. It's like, yeah, no. It's if greases or Mackoy made a staples easy button, that's what, that's what it would look like. Now. This is the last winning I, you know, I get these magazines sent to me by some stranger named Rick Tobar Tolo that's the mad magazine from last time. What we, we don't know yet what you're playing for this time, right? No, we'll be playing for June, but no idea.
Leo Laporte (02:25:47):
June mad magazine. It's kind of fun. GIZ biz. Dick also does a podcast with Chad Johnson every week called the GIZ called it's at giw.tv. Thank you, Dickie D thank you, sir. I'll talk to you next week. Have a wonderful week. Thank you, Michael Sargant. Yes. It's great to have you in here as well. I it's much more fun doing this show with somebody else. So thank you. Thanks to professor Laura, our musical director. She didn't play any red bone for us today, but maybe tomorrow, thanks to our phone angel Kim Shaffer for answering your calls. And of course, thanks. Most of all, to those of you who call in and listen in and make this show what it is today, the, the slowest rising show on broadcast radio without you, it would even be slower. Thank you so much for being here. We really appreciate it.
Leo Laporte (02:26:39):
We'll be back next time, more of your questions, more of your answers. And don't forget, every week we put all, all the links up at our website, tech guy labs.com. There's also a transcript to the show with the time codes, audio and video as well. So if you miss an episode or you wanna know more about something we talked about, it's all there. Tech guide labs.com have a great geek week. Well, that's it for the tech guy show for today. Thank you so much for being here and don't forget. Twit T I T. It stands for this week at tech and you'll find it@twi.tv, including the podcasts for this show. We talk about windows and windows weekly, Macintosh, a Mac break, weekly iPads, iPhones, apple watches on iOS, today's security and security. Now, I mean, I can go on and on and on. And of course the big show every Sunday, I'm afternoon, this week in tech, you'll find it all at twit TV and I'll be back next week with another great tech guys show. Thanks for joining me. I'll see you next time.
