The Tech Guy Episode 1865 Transcript

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Leo Laporte: (00:11)
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Leo Laporte: (01:06)
Oh, Hey. Hey. Hey, how are you today? Leo Laporte here. The tech guy, time to talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography. We gotta talk smart phones.

Leo Laporte: (01:16)
Of course, smart watches, you know, all that jazz, the GI cracks Gimo dejas hum dingers and Woohoo. That change our lives all around us. 88 88. Ask Leo. I made up a few words there. I don't, I don't know if we cover those 88 8 8 2 7 5 5 3 6. That's toll free from anywhere in the us or Canada outside that area. You could still call, but you, uh, you should probably, uh, Skype or something. So it doesn't cost you anything 88 88. Ask Leo what's on the agenda on the docket. What's going on in the world around us. Well, I guess the big story of the week I don't know really how important it is is, uh, Facebook, uh, I'm sorry. Meta, did I say Facebook? Yes, I did the company formerly known as Facebook losing a ton of money on the stock market, 240 billion, but it's on the stock market, so they didn't really lose that money.

Leo Laporte: (02:20)
So don't be, don't be, be, uh, don't be a, they'll be sad for Mark Zuckerberg and the Facebook team. They didn't, they didn't actually lose any real money. Uh, it is the biggest loss of value ever in us, corporate history, you know, for, you know, on a, in a, in terms of like, you know, stock valuation. Why did the stock market turn its bad on Facebook and perhaps more important if you are a stock investor? Cuz I am not, uh, well I am, but I don't buy, uh, individual tech stocks, you know, I buy index funds, so I don't have any, I try not to have a dog in this hunt. You know what I'm saying? I'm a dog in this hunt, although I'm sure my, uh, S and P fund probably has some Facebook. No, it doesn't. It's NASDAQ, isn't it? So I don't, yeah, I don't have any Facebook.

Leo Laporte: (03:13)
Um, but you know, the stock market's been kind of going up and down tanking mostly, uh, over the last few weeks. Um, tech stocks, haven't done all that. Well, except Apple. Oh, Apple did all right. Apple had the biggest quarter in history. Facebook though announced that they, uh, actually lost a few users, like a handful of users and, uh, that, that caused, uh, they announced that on, on Wednesday, 10 billion. Oh, also so, and I'm, I have some, uh, doubts about all this. They say that Apple cost him 10 billion in lost ad revenue cuz of that button that you push. Now, when you get an iPhone, you get a new app on iPhone, like the Facebook app or WhatsApp or Instagram. And it says, Hey, Apple does, Hey, it says, do you want this app to track you everywhere you go all the time? Huh? And of course everybody says, well, no.

Leo Laporte: (04:05)
And uh, Facebook says that cost them 10 billion in a ad sales, which I don't believe for a half second. But anyway, we'll get, we'll get to that. Um, after they announced their, uh, it wasn't, you know, they didn't even lose money or anything. totally, I mean, you know, their stock on Thursday, the next morning lost 26%, which is 240 billion. Uh that's that's, that's a lot of money. The biggest wipe out in us, corporate history. Again, it doesn't come out. Facebook's pocket. It comes out of investors, selling their shares, uh, at such a clip that the, the market price for the shares goes down because nobody wants to buy them. Which means, I guess if you thought it would come back up, which it might, you might wanna buy them right now. You know, that's what they call that. Buy-in on dips. I'm not a, by the way, boy, don't listen to me.

Leo Laporte: (05:06)
I am not. And I have no nothing about this stuff. I think it's all made up. I honestly do. Did is Facebook less valuable on Thursday than it was on Wednesday? Like in reality, no, just in the stock market, what went wrong? Well, the analysts, so this is, this is the problem. Kind of the problem I have with this, the analysts predicted, predicted that Facebook's earnings or profits would be three, $3 and 85 cents a share. They predicted that. They said, we think that they wrote that down. They sent it out in notes. And then when Facebook announced it was only $3 and 67 cents a share, by the way, that's profit. Not that they didn't lose money. That's profit per share. Oh my gosh. It was almost 20 cents. Less per share. They didn't live up to the analyst's expectations of the stock falls.

Leo Laporte: (06:04)
Huh? Plus they said next quarter, the market, the, the analysts, the people who write these notes up, who are some walks sitting in an office somewhere. I mean, they don't, I don't know. They go, I, well, I think it's kinda, they, they said, uh, we think Facebook's gonna, uh, profit will be 30 billion. Next quarter. Facebook said, you know, it probably is only gonna be like 29 billion that's okay. Just to make that clear that's profit. That's 29 billion in three months. That sounds right to me. I mean, it doesn't sound bad. Okay. Well, and we thought it was gonna be, uh, we thought it was gonna be 30 point 15. So sell that stock, um, daily active users expected to be, get this 1.9, 5 billion people. Now that this is like half the Earth's population. I mean, it's not a small number. instead it was 1.9, 3 billion. Oh, oh dear trouble in river city stock. Market's nuts. Okay. Although it's a great story, you know, and you're gonna see it all over the place. Cuz it's a it's late. It sells magazines gets cl gets clicks on websites, especially when they say mark Zuckerberg's personal wealth dropped 31 billion. now my, my he's. Okay, fine. He's still he's on the, he's still on the number 10 on the Bloomberg billionaires index. He's not gonna be begging for lunch money tomorrow. Okay. Just wanna make, I wouldn't worry.

Leo Laporte: (07:51)
Now the issue of the 10 billion is interesting. Um, the actual loss of 10 billion is more that money spent to build this new metaverse thing. Okay. This is the, that's why they rename. So metaverse, Facebook's looking to the future and they're looking and they see with their somewhat, um, Misty vision that future's gonna evolve. All of us wearing visors, bumping into walls. And so they want to be there. So they renamed the company, meta, they hired 10,000 new engineers to build the metaverse very speculative. That's what cost them $10 billion. But but, but Facebook thought, you know, this would be a great time to zing Apple a little bit for the, uh, for that privacy switch I was talking about earlier. So let's blame them. It's all Apple's fault. Apple cost us billions no, maybe those 10,000 engineers maybe. Yeah. Uh, maybe anyway, uh, the thing I want to tell you, the thing that's important for this, none of this is important, unless, and of course you have Facebook stock and even then, I don't know.

Leo Laporte: (09:11)
It'll, you know, it's been going, it went down Thursday, went down Friday. Maybe you'll go down some more Monday. What do you, what's your prediction for a month from now? You think it'll be still way down or is it gonna come back up? You know, that's that's, you know, it's, I don't care. It's finance markets who cares. It's speculators. It's people trying to make money off other people's backs. It's crazy. So don't, you know, it's tulip bulbs. But the thing that's interesting is Facebook trying to blame Apple for its loss, where it has nothing to do with Apple cuz the real truth of it is. And, and, and there's lots of evidence, lots of studies to support this is that made no difference to Facebook at all. They have plenty of ways of tracking you. If you use Facebook, if you have the Facebook app on your phone, it doesn't matter. If you click the button says don't let them track me. They do anyway. They have lots of other ways to do it. It's theater, privacy theater. And you know what? Apple loves this. By the way, Apple loves this. Facebook lost 10 billion because we protected your privacy. Go buy an iPhone. meanwhile, Apple had a kind of good, uh, quarter oh my God. Look, let me point this out. Facebook made almost 10 billion a month. Last quarter. That's a lot of money. Profit, profit, Apple.

Leo Laporte: (10:34)
Facebook says Apple cause good cost is 10 billion. A it's not that's nonsense. Apple's profit. And what, what did I say? Facebook's was like almost 30 million. Apple's profit, 34.6 billion. What's a few billion between friends. I say it's my, if you're making more than a billion dollars a week, you're doing fine. You're doing fine. They actually almost made yeah. Yeah. A billion dollars a week. That seems like enough money for anybody. And by the way, that's profit. That's money that you can say, oh good. I made that much money. I'm gonna put it in the bank. That's a lot of profit. Apple had its big of course its biggest quarter ever $34.6 billion. iPhone sales. Incredible. Of course, 71.6 billion in sales. Remember not all profits, some of it actually, they're almost half profit by the way. I just wanna point out. They're doing very well.

Leo Laporte: (11:40)
Uh, some of that profit is a check, big check every, uh, quarter that, uh, Google writes to Apple, something like a billion dollars a month so that Apple will keep using Google as a search engine on the iPhone. That's that goes into the services, uh, category, by the way. So the good news for Apple is the chip shortage. Hasn't hurt them too much. We will, by the way, we've been talking about this, see, uh, from Apple, uh, it looks like March 8th now is the, the analysts uhoh they're added again. The analysts say March 8th will be the day for an Apple in which they will announce. And this is a little disappointing to me. I was hoping for maybe new, uh, max, but no they'll announce new, a new iPad air and a new iPhone se. So if you're in the market and you can wait, it's a month off roughly, cuz it's a guess Apple, doesn't say 88. now you're up to date. Eighty eight, eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number Marie. Now, you know everything that happened. Well, no, there's a lot more, but we'll save that for later. Leo Laport, the tech guy, your calls coming up next.

Leo Laporte: (12:57)
Ah, who I'm making a call to you. She's gonna say a number in a moment and apparently I'm supposed to interrupt. You did. Okay. Stop Kim. She, I didn't hear eight, six oh nine eight six call 888, 8, 8, 8. Ask Leo. No 800 it's eight, eight might have been incorrect. It's okay. Call them eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo. No. Yeah, because our phones are jammed. Jam packed. Call somebody else. Hello? Kim Shaer phone angel. Hi, the number was O O that was the number. Yeah, a, a, a, a 5, 6, 7 0 9, 5 6, 7 0 9. Won't catch anything. I don't think so. How was your week? I know what you're. I know why you're saying. I do know why you're saying, do you? Yes. I don't think you do. I've been taking care of a puppy and I don't think I've seen, oh my gosh. Puppies are a pain. I thought you, you were thinking about a football game.

Leo Laporte: (13:56)
Oh yeah, that too. I, but you've gotten over that. That was well I'm I'll never be over. Those are old wounds, but yeah, that was, that was some BS. Well, these things happen, you know, somebody's gotta win. Somebody's gotta lose. Yeah. It's just the way blow a 10 point lead. I forgot about that. Right? We're talking sport ball, but you went away. So geeks don't care. I went down to Carmel by the sea. What's so beautiful. Down there by the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea. Isn't that a funny name? To name your town. Carmel Carmel by the sea dash dash dash. Um, I didn't know about the dashes Carmel dash by the five dash, the dash . Okay. See, we went over to, uh, hogs, breath in Clint. Eastwood's uh, bar. Did you see him? Didn't see Clint. I don't even know if he's, I don't know if he even owns it anymore.

Leo Laporte: (14:48)
It's actually unimpressive. Can I, can I say that? I imagine some medieval kind of timbered, you know, bar with kind of an old FA like kind, almost an English and no, mm-hmm mm-hmm just like in a, you know, it's like a building. It's not anything interesting at all. So who should I, I'm sorry, what did I, why I, why? I, I went down there a couple years ago. It's beautiful. The scenery is beautiful. Carmel's gorgeous. Love the Carmel. Yeah. Annie who? Any who? Uh, let's go to Jerry in Huntington beach. Okay. Also beautiful. Also. Nice. I have a friend who likes to play volleyball down on the beach. Thank you, Kim. Hello? To Jerry in Huntington beach.

Caller #1: (15:29)
Hi Leo. Hello Jerry.

Leo Laporte: (15:32)
What's up in your world?

Caller #1: (15:34)
Well, it should be a simple problem, but um, I don't know how to fix it.

Leo Laporte: (15:41)
Computers are funny. They all seem like they should be simple.

Caller #1: (15:45)
Yeah. Well by old IBM PC that I bought in 1980 was simple.

Leo Laporte: (15:53)
Yes. It was also very slow compared to today's modern devices.

Caller #1: (15:58)
Right. Anyway, today's problem is, uh, I want to change the setup on the email that I've got to where nothing goes into the junk folder.

Leo Laporte: (16:14)
Nothing, nothing. Email

Caller #1: (16:17)
Messages go to

Leo Laporte: (16:19)
Inbox. You don't want any spam filtering,

Caller #1: (16:23)
Right?

Leo Laporte: (16:24)
Cause you love spam.

Caller #1: (16:29)
Not really, but

Leo Laporte: (16:30)
It's getting stuff you don't, it's getting stuff. You don't want it to get. Yeah.

Caller #1: (16:36)
Spam filter puts stuff in there that doesn't belong in the spam filter. And then, then you forget about it or lose it. And then, then that's not good.

Leo Laporte: (16:47)
So unfortunately you can't just turn off spam filtering, but you can double down on it by CA creating a filter rule. that says take the spam and put it back in my inbox.

Caller #1: (17:09)
I think that's what, you know, I I've been going computers like crazy here lately. And uh, I, somebody at Microsoft I think did basically that. Yeah,

Leo Laporte: (17:23)
If you generally, the problem is that the spam filters are catching something from like something you want like emails from mom. If that's the case, you can set up a filter that says, if I get an email from mom, put it somewhere else, don't put it in the spam filters. That's that will bypass the spam filter. But if you want it to, this is kind of a funny little, crazy little work around. If you want it to nothing to go in the spam filter, you create a new filter and you know how in the filter you have different settings. You want to check the one that says doesn't have the words.

Leo Laporte: (17:59)
So it's, it's, it's a negative. It like if this, if this, uh, email does not have the words and then make it something that'll never, that'll never have like something it can't possibly have, which means everything that comes in will not have this word, you know, ish Kabi. And then you click the box that says, never send a spam. And essentially every email that lacks the word ish, Kabi will now not go to spam, which means everything. So you can't turn off spam but you can turn on another filter that says it's not spam. And that something go true. Others tell everything will then if it doesn't have the word is Kobi in it, it will then automatically not go to spam. So pick a word that it couldn't that nothing will ever have in it. You know. Does that make sense? That's kind of the, kind of the kooky way to do it, uh, better though. Obviously, if you know what you want, just say don't ever put that in spam. If it's from mom, right? Scott Wilkins in home theater geek coming up. Hello? Mr. Wilkinson.

Speaker 3: (19:18)
Hello Leo.

Leo Laporte: (19:21)
How are you? I am well, how are you? Good.

Speaker 3: (19:24)
I am good. I am deep in the heart of packing.

Leo Laporte: (19:29)
We were in Santa Cruz on uh,

Speaker 3: (19:32)
Yeah. Well, if you went through, if you went to Carmel, you had to drive

Leo Laporte: (19:35)
Through Santa Cruz and I made, well, you don't have to, you could go the ugly way you could go. Yeah. You could go the ugly way, go through, go through seaside and Monterey. Um, and that's how we went home, but we decided to cut over on two 80 to cut over in to half moon bay and then come down one, which gorgeous. I was hoping to see some whales. We didn't see any whales, but then, uh, I also wanted to show Lisa my old stomping grounds. I oh yeah. I said, well, that's cool.

Speaker 3: (20:00)
I used Santa

Leo Laporte: (20:01)
Cruz high school. Yeah. It changed a lot since I was there. So I I'm saying, I don't recognize this somewhere along this street will be the McDonald's that I was my first job. Oh, is where it is. So we passed the McDonald's. Yeah. Uh, it didn't have the golden arches anymore. It's the modern thing, but that's okay. Then we turned on Walnut and uh, went down Walnut, which is where Santa Cruz high is. I said, that's it right there. Then I drove. Then I drove down, uh, the street to the, what used to be the Pacific garden mall, but then was destroyed in 8, 19 89 by the earthy quake earthquake. And they, and they've rebuilt it. They have, it's not quite Cooper house. Isn't quite as awesome with the outdoor dining and all that. Correct. But I did find the Delmar theater. Yeah. The first place I ever nicked made out with a girl. And I said, Lisa there, see that right there. that's where it all began. Don't make you up. That's where it all began. And then, uh, so we went, we had lunch on the, on the mall there, whatever it's on a mall. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Street. It was it's nice. It's it was, it's really nice. Freezing cold and windy. So we, we were just chilly. We had a nice little Mexican meal there in the Palomar hotel,

Speaker 3: (21:12)
Palomar hotel. That's that's that was there when you

Leo Laporte: (21:14)
Were there. Absolutely. I was kind, it was kind of interesting in between the new buildings. There were all the old buildings that's right. So at logos had just closed, which was there. I used to work at odysey records in the mall. That's of course long gone. I looked for the catalyst. I didn't see it. Um, I think the catalyst is still there. It probably is. Yeah. And then, uh, we got back in the car, drove down the ocean street extension, which is funny because you're going to 17, but then you hang a Louie right by Denny's. I said, that's the other place I worked. go down ocean street, extension past the cemetery. I used to hang out there. They put up a fence since which is too bad, going down and then went all the way down. Ocean street extension to the farm. I said, Lisa, this is where my, our farm was. And it's still there. They've built it up a little bit, but it's still, you know, quite lush and farm mm-hmm mm-hmm and then we went on to Carmel, but it was fun. I gave Lisa the tour. Oh, that's Lisa's so cool. Lisa's uh, Leo's old haunts, but I REM I really love Santa Cruz. I I'm jealous. You're gonna you're you're now, where are you? Uh, where's your place roughly? Well, we're gonna

Speaker 3: (22:15)
Be roughly it's up, up near the

Leo Laporte: (22:17)
University actually. Oh, that's right. You told me that. Yeah. That's where my girlfriend Kathy used to live up there. Yeah. Okay. And I had the B up that hill. Yeah.

Speaker 3: (22:26)
Yeah. Up,

Leo Laporte: (22:26)
Up, up bay street. Oh, bay street. I used,

Speaker 3: (22:29)
I used to hitch hike. And when I was in college, I used to hitch hike from the bottom of basery up to the university with my tuba.

Leo Laporte: (22:36)
yeah. You know,

Speaker 3: (22:38)
Only VW

Leo Laporte: (22:39)
Vans. It's it's safe to pick up somebody with a tuba murderers. Generally don't carry their tuba with them.

Speaker 3: (22:45)
So you, do you remember when you were there? And I, when I was there, it was the murder capital of the

Leo Laporte: (22:50)
World. Yeah. Cuz we had Edmond Kemper, a serial murderer. It was pretty, yeah. It was a mur. Murderer was it's Santa Cruz. But it, but it Santa Cruz, I forgot to take her up to the U C S C. I'll have to do that. Yes. CSE is gorgeous. That's so pretty. So pretty. Yes. You're right. Mike B he's always right. He says, Leo, you must have an advertiser, a sponsor for this portion of the tech guy. In fact, I do, uh, a great company. I'm a big fan of Lineo Lineo whether you're developing a, a personal project, whether you're managing larger workloads, you deserve you. Yes. You deserve simple, affordable, accessible cloud computing solutions. Lin. Node's been doing this since day one. I've been a fan of them for years with Lin node, I N O D E build applications using a simple cloud manager API.

Leo Laporte: (23:46)
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Leo Laporte: (24:30)
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Leo Laporte: (25:37)
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Leo Laporte: (26:31)
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Leo Laporte: (28:24)
We that further ado it's time for the hipster himself. It's funny. people of our generation are used to be hipsters. Probably not so much anymore. Not so much anymore. No, no he is. But he, but, but on the other hand, if you call it a hipster, I guess it is hipsters Scott Wilkinson. Hello, Scott Wilkinson. Hello, Leo apart. He's our home theater geek writes for tech hive and lots of other places and talks about, uh, big screen TVs. We're getting ready for the superb owl. Hey, I gotta say something though. Owl. Yes, yes, yes. The one problem I have, I've been watching the Olympics in 4k because I have YouTube TV and I guess YouTuber FUO I think. Or Xfinity X one box. Yep. But, and I correct me if I'm wrong, YouTube TV. I wanted to watch the opening ceremonies in 4k, but we started late.

Leo Laporte: (29:21)
Right. Cause I forgot it was early on the west coast. It was 5:00 PM. So of six I'm going, oh shoot. But that's okay because it's on my DVR. They don't DVR it in 4k. You have to watch it live to see it in 4k. Oh, I didn't realize that they popped up a thing, which I didn't read in detail. So I'm forgive me if I'm misstating this. But I think it said, oh, 4k files are too big to store on your DVR. So we're gonna store it as a 10 80 P file. Wow. Which is a big bald face lie. Yeah. Because they only keep one copy of it for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, come on, come on, man. I paid 20 bucks.

Speaker 3: (30:04)
Uh, YouTube, YouTube TV offers a DVR functionality. Yes. You can

Leo Laporte: (30:09)
Record things. And I think some things you can record in 4k, I'll have to check, but that's so I paid 20 bucks extra for 4k. So it's $85 a month, 20 bucks a month. But I think for the Olympics and maybe this is NBC, I wouldn't be surprised at all. If NBC said no, don't let them recorded 4k. That's too high quality. Yeah. Uh, so you have to watch live. What are you gonna do

Speaker 3: (30:31)
With it? What are you gonna do

Leo Laporte: (30:32)
With it? If, if, well, you would skip the commercials probably and by the way, it's the strangest thing. You're watching the Olympic, they're doing promos to watch the Olympics and it's like, dudes, I'm already watching. You don't need a three minute promo with the rock. Right. To say how great the Olympics is. I'm watching it, dude. Yeah. Really? so maybe they're, NBC's worried. I'll skip. They paid a lot of money for that rock. Yeah. Maybe they're worried that uh, I don't know. Anyway, anyway, uh, just, just a little personal ax to grind. They did repeat it and I, I guess I, but they want you to watch NBC, I think is doing this. They want you to watch live. Yeah.

Speaker 3: (31:14)
It must be NBC. It has to be. Yeah. And, and they're doing some pretty draconian things. For example, they're not doing 4k on peacock. They're

Leo Laporte: (31:22)
Streaming. Yeah. That's, that's irritating quite a few people who paid for pock, Pete KIPP canop and didn't and didn't get their 4k. How is, uh, you know, is the puppy bowl in 4k? God

Speaker 3: (31:34)
No, the puppy bowl is only HD. No, I'm sorry to say, but

Leo Laporte: (31:40)
Uh, so is the super bowl. They're not gonna do that. I'm sorrys bowel. They're not gonna do that in, uh, 4k either, but the

Speaker 3: (31:47)
Olympics cause well, super bowls on NBC. Is that correct? Yes. So they took all their 4k cameras to China.

Leo Laporte: (31:54)
Yes. That's what happened. Apparently we don't have anymore. Just like, just like YouTube can't afford to store 4k content, right? Yeah. NBC. Oh, we only have five 4k cameras. We send 'em all to China. Uh, anyway than this me griping. I'm just griping. No.

Speaker 3: (32:13)
And, and you are absolutely right to gripe about that. That, that is unconscionable.

Leo Laporte: (32:18)
No, I gotta watch live, but it does look good in 4k K. Oh yeah. But you know, I tune in late. So all I saw is the parade of nations, which is not why I tune in the, that gets kind of boring. That's not why you turn in the opening ceremonies. No. To guess what alphabetical order in Chinese is. That's not why I'm doing it. I wanted to see, I don't know if they had the big drummers, like last time or what I wanted to see this

Speaker 3: (32:39)
Wasn't awesome. In 2008,

Leo Laporte: (32:41)
2008. Yeah. Yeah. That was amazing.

Speaker 3: (32:44)
So, so anyway. Yeah. Well, you know, okay, so you gotta watch live if you wanna see it in 4k and by the

Leo Laporte: (32:50)
Way, it's not live anyway. No, exactly. It's live is three 30 in the morning, so, right, right, right. Anyway, it's fine. This is the huge gripe every four years or in this case every six months. well,

Speaker 3: (33:03)
Right. I found it amazing when they split the winter in summer Olympics. So now it's every two years you get some sort of Olympics every two years.

Leo Laporte: (33:12)
Oh, I didn't know about that. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So from now on, it's gonna be every other year, they'll be an Olympic, correct?

Speaker 3: (33:18)
Oh, summer all or winter one or the

Leo Laporte: (33:19)
Other. Okay. That's

Speaker 3: (33:21)
Probably smart. Although of course last year it was, it was last year because of the pandemic, but any,

Leo Laporte: (33:25)
So are you, so, uh, are you, you're probably not watching a 4k cuz

Speaker 3: (33:29)
I'm not. Yeah. Uh, I don't have YouTube TV. I have, I don't pay for that. I pay for a lot of other stuff, but that ain't one of them. Yeah. Um, but I'm watching it in 10 80 and it looks great on my Sony EDD looks really

Leo Laporte: (33:42)
Good. It is nice because of all the streaming channels, even though they're not 4k, you can watch a lot of different events. And I think it's like, there's eight different Comcast channels that you can watch this thing on. Right. It's kind of a remarkable.

Speaker 3: (33:54)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I do miss HDR. I would like to see HDR. Yeah. Uh, I I've been watching some of the stuff we've watch is in HDR.

Leo Laporte: (34:04)
Well, it's amazing to watch the snow stuff, the skiing. And because boy in HDR, it's just, the snow is blinding.

Speaker 3: (34:14)
That's when you really need a bias light behind your team,

Leo Laporte: (34:16)
You feel like you you're there it's you feel? I get chilly cuz it looks so. Yeah. Seriously. It looks cold. Looks really

Speaker 3: (34:24)
Cold. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Leo Laporte: (34:27)
So what I'm sorry. I didn't mean to uh, no that's okay. We're getting ready. Super bowl is uh, on the 13th, little more than a week, week from Sunday. That's right. That's right. So everybody's got their uh, fine TV

Speaker 3: (34:39)
Set. Uh, gonna be, I'm gonna be DVRing it so that I can skip through the game and watch the commercials. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (34:45)
I do like commercials show. Yep. And the halftime show. Yep.

Speaker 3: (34:48)
That's that's all I care about. Otherwise I'll be at the puppy bowl.

Leo Laporte: (34:52)
You could DVR the puppy bowl and watch the super bowl. You really? Yeah,

Speaker 3: (34:55)
No, no, no.

Leo Laporte: (34:57)
Cause it's not like if you knew who won the puppy bowl, it would spoil it for you or

Speaker 3: (35:00)
Anything. No, I know. No spoilers. Somebody. I don't want number one. somebody last week in the chat room said team rough or team fluff. I don't really care. I just like know

Leo Laporte: (35:11)
Some romp around puppy bowl. More fun. What's that? If it was, uh, dogs versus cats

Speaker 3: (35:19)
Oh yeah. Wouldn't that be?

Leo Laporte: (35:21)
You know, that'd be awesome. Rough. His dogs team fluff his fluffy cats, fluffy cats. Then there might be bloodshed, but it'd be interesting. They'd probably more violent than the actual super bowl. I'm just

Speaker 3: (35:31)
Trying to think of it. yep, yep. No we're gonna be we're we're I probably will. I mean, I'll DVR the super bowl, but I won't have much time to watch it cuz we're moving.

Leo Laporte: (35:43)
Yeah. I see that you have held out one tie dye shirt, uh, from the packing so that when you arrive in Santa Cruz they'll know one of us, one of us of us. Yeah. One of us funny. I was there over the week cuz we Lisa and I took a little day trip to down that way and uh, yeah. It ha it is still the land that time forgot in many ways. It is. It is.

Speaker 3: (36:05)
I mean it has changed. There's

Leo Laporte: (36:07)
No question. Well, I left in 1973, so it

Speaker 3: (36:11)
Has, I left in 78. So it's changed. Probably

Leo Laporte: (36:13)
Has changed. Yeah. Yeah. I, I CA I was coming and going cuz my, my mom lived there until uh, until 92 or 93. So yeah.

Speaker 3: (36:21)
Yeah. But I still have a lot of friends there and I'm gonna be playing a lot of music

Leo Laporte: (36:25)
There. Now here's the question. Yeah. High speed internet.

Speaker 3: (36:30)
Yes. Higher than I have here. Nice. We just got, we just got, uh, fiber at and T fiber in my neighborhood and I could sign up, but I'm leaving. Anyway. I got Xfinity 600

Leo Laporte: (36:42)
Megabit. That's plenty. Yeah. Which is

Speaker 3: (36:44)
Plenty that and two 20 up it's you know, it's what I got now. 20 up.

Leo Laporte: (36:48)
Do you watch most of your content on streaming these days?

Speaker 3: (36:52)
Uh, about half and half I'd say. Okay.

Leo Laporte: (36:55)
So you still need an antenna. You'll be watching uh, Ks PW channel eight. That's right. The great channel

Speaker 3: (37:01)
Eight. Yep. The great channel eight. The only news I'll watch there cuz it's the only one local

Leo Laporte: (37:05)
To Santa. It's the only local news. well, Scott, uh, so when is moving day? It's next week?

Speaker 3: (37:11)
Uh, no week after next, but I will be off next week from here because I'm have to deconstruct

Leo Laporte: (37:15)
My studio. You gotta pack your tight eye shirts. I know that's right. Yeah. Sadly. So your, your love beads.

Speaker 3: (37:21)
gotta get

Leo Laporte: (37:23)
The far from the top. Get the sandals all packed in there. I'll need those. Yeah. Mys socks are no socks, no socks, no socks. Yeah. Never wear Burkin socks with socks. You look like a German. Uh, Scott Wils in home theater gig. Thank you, sir. You bet.

Leo Laporte: (37:51)
All right. You know what we do Birkenstock. I know what we do. I, when I was in Santa Cruz, I lived in the, uh, we bought the house. We bought of Mark Frazier. Who was the woman, the nice German woman lady who brought a Birkenstock to the United States. Really? Yes. So we really were Santa Cruzans. You were Santa Cruz. And uh, I remember in the garage, when we moved in, there were probably thousands, probably tens of thousands, bur Birkenstock catalogs and I don't remember in the early days of Birkenstock, they had a, on the back page, you were supposed to get your foot wet and put it on the back page and it would, uh, give an imprint of your foot that you would then send to them. So your Birkenstock would match your foot. Wow. Wow. And since we had so many of 'em, I had great fun cuz I was, you know, I was only a kid right. Running through those, putting my footprints in the back of all of them.

Speaker 3: (38:43)
anyway, well Santa Cruz. Yeah. Uh, the, my, one of my close friends there owns the Zazu pits house.

Leo Laporte: (38:53)
Oh yeah. Zazu pits. Memorial orchestra, ladies and gentlemen. That's right. Yeah. That's right. They were great.

Speaker 3: (38:59)
Zazu pits actually lived in Santa Cruz. Oh the, the

Leo Laporte: (39:02)
Actress Zazu pits. The act, the

Speaker 3: (39:04)
Actress SASU pits. Oh,

Leo Laporte: (39:06)
That's so funny. Lived in Santa Cruz. Cruz was in Santa prison.

Speaker 3: (39:08)
Yeah. In up, just up the street from, uh, just up Walnut or, or center one of those just up from the mall and uh,

Leo Laporte: (39:16)
That's the neighborhood. I like, I think that's a cute little oh yeah. Cause it's all of those Victorian beach houses, Victorian houses, gorgeous, gorgeous. And they were not destroyed in.

Speaker 3: (39:25)
Won't be able to, we probably won't be able to afford to

Leo Laporte: (39:28)
Live in. Yeah. It's pretty fancy. Yeah. Fancy schmanzy we're we're driving around Carmel going boy. We'd love to live here, but you know, mm-hmm

Speaker 3: (39:36)
. Yeah. But you know, but you know,

Leo Laporte: (39:40)
Well don't Santa that just

Speaker 3: (39:42)
Be expensive money. Yeah. Santa Cruz is gonna be expensive to, to buy there, but we've been looking at the real estate market very carefully and following houses that come up and whatnot, we're, we're renting for a while till we sell our house down here and buy up place up there. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (39:57)
And you know, that's good. You know, it's kinda, I went up cuz of Silicon valley, but um, I imagine it's not gonna stay that high. I don't know.

Speaker 3: (40:04)
Hard to say. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (40:06)
Hard to it. Not driving over 17 every day is not a piece

Speaker 3: (40:09)
Of cake. Not a piece of cake. I don't plan to do that. no. Although, you know, when I get back up to speed is as a journalist, uh, I will be covering more of the Silicon valley. Yeah. You're

Leo Laporte: (40:20)
Right there. You may, you may surprise yourself. Mm-hmm you may be going over 17 more often

Speaker 3: (40:25)
Than not more often than I think. Yeah. Yep, exactly. Right.

Leo Laporte: (40:30)
Okay. You got a minute and a half. Do you wanna a minute and a half. Do you wanna stick around to the uh, for the top as well? Okay,

Speaker 3: (40:35)
Good. By the, by the way though, just FYI. No next week. No next two weeks.

Leo Laporte: (40:40)
Two weeks. Cuz you gotta move. Of course. Next week is, oh,

Speaker 3: (40:43)
We're gonna miss at my office and the week after that is the actual move. Okay.

Leo Laporte: (40:48)
Good to know. So sad. That's two weeks. Scott will be in transit.

Speaker 3: (40:53)
I will. But then after that I will be coming at you from sunny Santa cruise.

Leo Laporte: (40:57)
Awesome. That's exciting. It's gonna

Speaker 3: (40:59)
Be awesome. Yeah. It's gonna be so great. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (41:02)
Sunny in the winter.

Speaker 3: (41:06)
It's so weird. Now I'm looking around my studio and like half my stuff is gone. Is it? Oh wow. Oh yeah. My, I I just, just this morning I had some help tearing down all my sound equipment moving

Leo Laporte: (41:17)
Is a good discipl one though, because it forces you to kind of decide what you want to

Speaker 3: (41:20)
Keep and what you really want to keep. That's true. That's absolutely true. Yep. All right. Anyway, I'm happy to stick around to the top of the hour

Leo Laporte: (41:27)
For today. That's last chance for, uh, two weeks to get chance, get your questions to Scotty. That's right. And uh, okay, cool.

Speaker 3: (41:37)
So yeah, two, uh, what, what we talked about today is totally fine, but um, I had had a, a real question that I'll I'll pick up when I, when I,

Leo Laporte: (41:45)
Sorry, I knew, I knew I was taking over. I'm sorry. That's fine.

Speaker 3: (41:49)
That's fine.

Leo Laporte: (41:50)
All right. Well talking a few.

Speaker 3: (41:52)
We we'll talk in a few. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (41:54)
A T U R D a Y Leo Laporte. Yeah. I'm wearing my plaid kilt. How'd you know the tech guy, eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number, Arizona. Lou. He's got a question for Scott Wilkinson. Good news. You know, Scott's not gonna be here for the next two weeks, but I managed to,

Speaker 4: (42:14)
I know, I'm glad I

Leo Laporte: (42:14)
Got in for, I hared him and uh, managed to keep him around. So what do you wanna know from Scott?

Speaker 4: (42:21)
Well, you, Scott mentioned to buy a light and you too need to explain why I'm all wrong or you're all wet. Are you ready? Scott? It could be both.

Speaker 3: (42:37)
I'm totally ready. I'm

Speaker 4: (42:39)
Behind your TV to give a little light around the TV, but you said paint the room black. So correct point and putting a D 65 light behind your TV against a black wall. Shouldn't it be a

Leo Laporte: (42:56)
White and here I thought Arizona, Lou was gonna say, what's a bias light. You know all about it. Obviously you do know all

Speaker 3: (43:03)
About it. That's right.

Leo Laporte: (43:04)
Well, so just to re refresh everybody's memories. Sure. Uh, you can get, you can put just a light behind your TV, which kind of glows around it, but they make special lights that are designed to be neutral. In fact, if you really wanna go crazy companies, uh, like hue make lights that will synchronize to what's on the TV. Yes.

Speaker 3: (43:26)
But I do not recommend that. That's a bad idea. That's a bad idea. Um, but no, you get a bias light that has a PR particular color of white. Put it behind the TV. And the question is a valid one. You know, if, if you paint your, the back,

Leo Laporte: (43:42)
The back wall, black people do not have black rooms.

Speaker 3: (43:45)
No I do. But most people you're weird. Yeah. I'm no, I'm weird. I'm a geek. Yeah. Uh,

Leo Laporte: (43:51)
Actually when is 50% gray, something really neutral or 30% gray you better than black. No, no,

Speaker 3: (43:57)
No. You basically, anything that reflects light off the walls from the screen, ah, will, will affect the, the quality. So

Leo Laporte: (44:06)
You want to be a, a just absorbed,

Speaker 3: (44:08)
Even black light, even black though is you're going to see some light from that bias light. Uh, you even with the, even if the wall is cause nothing's perfect black, I mean, nothing is perfect. Black. No, you're not gonna get what's called a black box. Uh, which is the a theoretical thing that doesn't actually exist.

Leo Laporte: (44:27)
I guess, if you hung black velvet and you had the walls be three or four feet further back than the TV, you'd

Speaker 3: (44:34)
Be pretty. You could do that. Yeah. Then the by light might not be effective. You know, I never thought of that. That's actually a really good question. My, my room is paying to me.

Speaker 4: (44:45)
It seems me. It would make sense to paint everything black, except the one wall behind the TV and paint it white because it's not gonna reflect light from the TV anyway.

Speaker 3: (44:56)
No, but, uh, it will impact the contrast that you perceive. Uh, E even if the rest of the room, isn't black, you want the wall behind the TV to be black because you want you, otherwise you will, there will be light reflecting off of that back wall. And it will affect the contrast that you see that you perceive, I should say. Um, so in a, in a home theater, you actually, you would paint the back wall black and maybe the rest to the walls, dark gray or something else. You never want white walls in a room, in any room, uh, because, well, in your case, you know, you, you, you put up, you bring up a weird case that I've never heard of, which has paid all the walls, black, except the back wall behind the TV. That might actually, that's an interesting thought I had, no one has ever

Leo Laporte: (45:52)
Suggested white would not be ideal because that really is gonna draw the eye. But maybe that's where you put the 30% gray. So the bias light has something to

Speaker 3: (46:01)
Refuse. I have to ask some of my expert friends. Do

Leo Laporte: (46:03)
You, I guess what you're saying, Lou though, is it's either painted black or have a bias light, right? Why would you do both?

Speaker 3: (46:12)
That's what Lou is saying, but I think, I think still a bias. Light's still a good idea. Okay.

Speaker 4: (46:17)
A bias light would be the correct color to have you perceive the full color gamut of the TV.

Leo Laporte: (46:24)
You were saying, what D 60, what were you saying? D 64.

Speaker 3: (46:28)
It's called D 65, 5

Speaker 4: (46:30)
D 65. That's about, uh, 65,000 Kel

Leo Laporte: (46:35)
6,500. Oh, it's the temperature. Okay. 6,500 Kel.

Speaker 3: (46:38)
Yes. Okay. Yes, but there there's a technical geeky thing about that. That it's more correct to say D 65 than 6,500 Kelvin. They're roughly equivalent, but not exactly. But if you

Leo Laporte: (46:48)
Go, there's like a website, like bias lighting.com, correct. That does this. And they have, you know, for depends on the size of the light, you know, how big your screen is and all that. Uh, you know, they have stuff for 50 bucks, thereabouts, that would do that, but

Speaker 3: (47:03)
You still need,

Speaker 4: (47:04)
You spend less money and less watage. If you didn't try to put a bias light against a black wall,

Speaker 3: (47:12)
You know, that is a, a really good question. I, I had never thought of that before. I still believe a bias. Light's a good idea. And the black wall is not perfectly absorptive. So some light will

Leo Laporte: (47:25)
Be reflective. You know what? My mom always said, when the subject of bias lighting came up, yes. You'll ruin your eyes. One of the things that happens is if everything's dark and except the TV, then I think that's hard on the eyes.

Speaker 3: (47:42)
It is, which is why you wanna bias light in the,

Leo Laporte: (47:44)
She always said, leave one light on, in the living room when you're watching TV, because otherwise there's this massive, uh, difference between the bright screen and the darkness around you.

Speaker 3: (47:55)
Correct. And your Iris is a keep adjusting and that tires your eyes. You get it ruin

Leo Laporte: (48:00)
Your eyes. Well, won't ruin also don't sit too close, which is, but anyway, the, uh, the, I, I guess then that means having an all black room with a TV is not desirable because there is gonna be that huge drop off and luminance from the screen to the walls. And so even then you would wanna bias light, cuz you want, you wanna, you don't wanna have this cliff in light in brightness. You wanna have a grad, a gradation in brightness, right? Well, and

Speaker 3: (48:27)
You, you also want to, and the reason it's called a by is you want to bias your eyeballs,

Leo Laporte: (48:32)
Your irises. I thought it was spelled B U Y U S by us lights. No, no, no, no. Okay. All right. No, no, B I a S

Speaker 3: (48:42)
B I a S bias light. It biases your irises to be in a more comfortable and steady state reign while the TV, uh, brightness goes up and down by a lot, your irises don't have to work as hard to

Leo Laporte: (48:58)
Arizona. Lou, do you have any, uh, bias, light jokes in your standup?

Speaker 4: (49:04)
Not yet, but I'm working

Leo Laporte: (49:07)
I was gonna buy a D 65 and I realized I painted the room black

Speaker 3: (49:14)
you know, this is a re this is a very interesting question. I'm gonna ask the guys@buyalighting.com. The media light is the product they make. Uh, I'm gonna ask 'em about that. That's really good. See,

Leo Laporte: (49:27)
Now I have a projector, as you know, uh, a short throat, you wouldn't do a bias, light around a projector. You

Speaker 3: (49:34)
Could, you could, you wouldn't it, you, some people advocate for it. I personally don't. I don't think they're bright enough to make it be a problem. Yeah. But, uh, but some people, Joe Kane in particular, who's an expert I respect greatly, uh, has a bias light behind his projections screen.

Leo Laporte: (49:51)
Yeah. Yeah. HD editor in our chat room says, uh, and I presume he's a, a video editor says high end editing rooms had typically have an 18% gray color wall, uh, especially in the color grading suites, because you don't want your eyes, uh, to be biased as it were, um, when you're doing color grading. So, right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. And the correct

Speaker 4: (50:16)
Color of, uh, either paint or light behind the TV will bias your eyes to see the colors correctly.

Speaker 3: (50:25)
Right? Correct. That's right, right. In

Leo Laporte: (50:27)
A weird way. So don't like have red lights behind

Speaker 3: (50:30)
Your TV. No. And this is why you don't want those hue lights that change or yeah. Philip Phillips did think something called MB light. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (50:38)
That's hue. Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 3: (50:39)
Yeah. Which was, it's the same thing. Something red is on the screen. The bias light is red. Yeah. And if something blue on the screen, the bias light is bad.

Leo Laporte: (50:47)
Yeah. Don't do that. Yeah. Arizona, Lou world's oldest comedian, Arizona. right. Arizona, lou.com. Arizona lou.com. Oh

Speaker 3: (50:57)
Man. Arizona. Lou. Thanks. You you've given me something to think about.

Leo Laporte: (51:01)
Usually does. It's not. It's it's only funny cuz it's true. Right? Lou? That's correct. It's funny. Cause it's giving you something to think about. Thank you, Lou. Thank you, Scott Leo. Laporte the tech guy more calls coming up right after this. Uh, thank you, Lou. That was good. Was an excellent and interesting delving into the world of, of bias lighting. Isolating. All right, Scott, you got eight minutes and like a lot nine minutes. cool man.

Speaker 3: (51:40)
Have fun. Uh, user 22, 200 says I use a 6,000 K L E D. That's a little red, but okay. Maybe not perfect, but a great improvement. Can't do the black wall. Yeah. Well not many people can uh, yeah. HD editor high end in editing rooms. Uh, H high end highend editing rooms typically have a gray wall about 18%. That's what I paint my painted my home theater. 18% gray. Exactly. Right. Um, which is ex exactly why I did it to see what the colorist intended painting a room. True. Black. I, I don't know. I, I considered it for my theater. Uh, my wife vetoed that and probably just as well, because, um, it could, could get kind of creepy in such a place, not unlike being in an AIC chamber. Any of you out there been ever been in an Ana KOIC chamber. That is an interesting experience.

Speaker 3: (52:40)
Uh, you walk into this square room and with a four pie Ana KOIC chamber that is no eco Ana KOIC means no echoes. And you walk in on a, on a, like a gang plank and the rest of the floor is, uh, and the walls and ceiling are chicken wire. And under the chicken wire is like three feet of foam wedges. So that there's no echo in there whatsoever. And you close that door into that. And they use that for, for doing speaker testing speakers mostly. And you walk in there and you close the door behind you, which ha. And it also has that, that, uh, those foam, uh, wedges in it, it's, it's eerie. It's really eerie. I've always wanted to actually try to meditate in an Anaco chamber. Haven't had an opportunity to do that, but if I ever do, I, I will take advantage of it cuz uh, you end up hearing your own, the blood, you know, running in your own body.

Speaker 3: (53:46)
You hear a lot of things that you normally don't hear. If you have a tin of any sort, you will really hear that. So, uh, it's very interesting. Uh, user 34 89, what made you want to move? Well, several reasons. One is, uh, we kind of got tired of the bigness of LA LA is so huge and we have a lot of friends here, but we hardly ever see 'em because it takes forever to get anywhere. Um, we wanted a, a smaller community. We already have a built in community of people in Santa Cruz, some of which are very close friends of ours and, and, and some college friends of mine have kids and grandkids now. And they're all in Santa Cruz and we'll be able to plug in as aunt and uncle, uh, and that's gonna be really great. And the weather is nicer. Doesn't get screamingly hot, at least in Santa Cruz. It can up in the mountains, uh, uh, cleaner air, uh, lot of reasons. I, I love Santa Cruz tell you the truth. LA is my home, my birth home. But Santa Cruz is my spiritual home. I've felt that way ever since I went to college there. So, uh, that's why we're going. Yes, James contested on jeopardy the other day made a reference to tuba Christmas. I couldn't believe it. That was so awesome.

Speaker 3: (55:18)
Uh, yeah. During the little interview segment, uh, he was talking about, uh, ending up having to direct traffic out of a parking structure and he said, yeah, he was there it for tuba Christmas. I went, oh man, I almost fell off my chair. That was so cool. Uh, IEC says, so you're not watching the super bowl to see Snoop dog, M and M and Dr. Dre. And I'm not fans of those particular, uh, artists, but, um, I will tape it or record it. Watch, uh, watch them probably the halftime show. Micah. Oh Micah. Hey Micah. How you doing next time you, we go to the beach boardwalk. I'd love to meet ya. Yeah, absolutely. Please give me a call when you come down for, to go to the beach boardwalk, uh, I would love to meet, meet up with you. That would be awesome. Awesome. And get this being in Santa cruise. I could drive up to Petaluma. I could come hang out in the studio when the COVID thing gets a little better. I hope to do that. I would love to do that. Um, Tokyo, Tony. My wife is now asking us to build an Ana KOIC chamber. She's gonna throw me in there and shut her. Shut me up. Uh, yeah, she would not be able to hear you in there and you would not be able to hear her in there that's for sure.

Speaker 3: (56:38)
Um, let's see if, if you had a TiVo and auto skip the game and watch just the ads, is that really true? I, I thought certainly with some DVRs you can auto skip the commercials, but I'm not sure if you can auto skip the show. Um, Hey, Phoenix warp will on. Yeah. I mean, I, I hope to, I plan to, you know, come up and visit the TWI studio. Uh, at some point it'll be immense. I think

Leo Laporte: (57:10)
We're gonna be opening up pretty soon cuz I, I really think this is kind of the last gas, but I'm hoping anyway,

Speaker 3: (57:15)
I'm hoping that there's not some other surf. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (57:18)
I think every winter will probably, you know, there'll be something like, like the flu yeah. Anyway. Well, I don't know. No one knows, but we'll see. Yeah, it was a good article, uh, in the Atlantic saying it could be worse. Not better. Don't get your hopes up.

Speaker 3: (57:34)
yeah. And there's some, some new sub variant of OCN that's I've seen. Yeah. The BA

Leo Laporte: (57:40)
Too. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3: (57:42)
So, uh, you know, when it's possible, I would love to come up and visit you guys. Well,

Leo Laporte: (57:49)
Of course, and I think, you know, I think that's gonna be this summer almost certainly. Mm-hmm so,

Speaker 3: (57:55)
Yeah, that will be loads. Oh, fun. Let's see here. Um, user 34 89, 2 40 refresh is a must, correct? No, I wouldn't say it's a must. It's better. I would go for at least 1 20 60 is, is, uh, is not as good. So I would go 1 22 40 is nice, but I don't think it's a must IEC. Does LG still make the best TV panels? They make the best OED panels. Yes. Which are also used to in Sony and just about everybody else who makes EDS L Visio, for example, LG, of course, but, uh, LG EDS are usually the less least expensive and they're excellent. Excellent. So there's no question, um, that, that they are really great. Now, as far as LC TVs, no, LG does not make the best panels. Um, I'm not sure I would, I would be able to offer a good opinion on who makes the best LCD panels. There. Aren't very many LCD panel makers, most TVs companies get them from the same one or two makers. And I don't don't think there're, uh, any of the big names, but I'm not sure about that. I do know about ed and I know about LG.

Speaker 3: (59:16)
Um, anyway, so that's how I think about that. Uh, let's see here. Uh, yeah, jeopardy, tuba Christmas that just knocked me over. Uh, yes, I will be in tra next week. I'll be, I won't be in transit next week, two week, two weeks from now. I'll be in transit actually in transit, but next week I'll be packing. And the set you see behind me say goodbye. It is about to go away.

Leo Laporte: (59:49)
Will you rebuild it in the new local or you have it'll D it'll be different, a different

Speaker 3: (59:53)
One. It'll be, it'll be different. I won't be able to build the same set.

Leo Laporte: (59:57)
Changes are always good. Change

Speaker 3: (59:59)
Is, change is good. Once in a while. I love this set. Um, I've had it for I've. I had it since, uh, my podcast and all the time I've been on, uh, the show here. Yeah. Uh, it's been great, but uh, no, most of this stuff's going in storage.

Leo Laporte: (01:00:18)
What, what, what can you keep speakers? The

Speaker 3: (01:00:22)
Lava lamp. Oh, I'm gonna keep all that stuff. Yeah. How

Leo Laporte: (01:00:26)
Much, how I won't see that the rental won't have as much room.

Speaker 3: (01:00:29)
The, my, my office in the rental is actually

Leo Laporte: (01:00:31)
Very small.

Speaker 3: (01:00:33)
Oh. So for, for the next month or a year, as much as a year, I have to live with in a much smaller office. I see. But the place where, when we

Leo Laporte: (01:00:44)
Buy, we're gonna have massive office, absolute office

Speaker 3: (01:00:49)
Music studio.

Leo Laporte: (01:00:51)
Yay. Well, Scott, I will see in three, have a wonderful move in three.

Speaker 3: (01:00:56)
Thank you. Be cool.

Leo Laporte: (01:00:58)
See,

Speaker 3: (01:00:58)
In Santa Cruz, you betcha. Bye. I know.

Leo Laporte: (01:01:03)
Well, Hey, Hey. Hey. How are you today? Leo Laporte here. The tech guy. It's time to talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches. All that jazz. Eighty eight eighty eight ask Leo is the phone number (888) 827-5536 to free from anywhere in the us or Canada outside that area. Just use Skype. You could still call shouldn't cost you a penny 88 88. Ask Leo Michael's on the line from Santa CLA, California. Hello, Michael,

Speaker 5: (01:01:38)
How you doing Leon?

Leo Laporte: (01:01:39)
I'm great. How are you?

Speaker 5: (01:01:42)
Not too bad. Just a quick little note. Uh, I ended up buying an LGTV, uh, not too long ago based on, uh, recommendations from your program. And it has turned out really, really great. I'm I'm glad

Leo Laporte: (01:01:53)
I got it. Did you get the EDD?

Speaker 5: (01:01:57)
Uh, no, it wasn't an O ad. It was, uh, a, a lower model, LG, but it it's so much better than what we used.

Leo Laporte: (01:02:04)
They're good TVs enjoying it. They run, uh, something that, uh, geeks will remember called web OS. That was briefly gonna be the future of Palm and then HP bought it and they couldn't figure out what to do with it. And they finally sold it off. And now it's, uh, the, the last place you could still see web OS, which I really liked when it, when it came out, I thought this is gonna be a great phone operating system, but Nope, it was iPhone and Android and that's all there was room for. So, uh, what can I do for you today? Uh,

Speaker 5: (01:02:34)
Well, my question is my daughter has been, uh, accepted to, uh, colleges. She's like been accepted to a medical program. How

Leo Laporte: (01:02:41)
Exciting. That's great that

Speaker 5: (01:02:42)
Congratulations. Yeah. She's finishing out for, you know, she's finishing out for senior year in high school and right now she has got, um, a Chromebook that she has used since, uh, her freshman year, but we're gonna need to upgrade to, uh, a Mac and a, of course, taking a look at what Mac ha uh, has, was just kinda wondering, uh, what would be the better one for her in terms of, of college. So

Leo Laporte: (01:03:07)
Right now there's, uh, two different kind of grades of, uh, lap. I presume you want a laptop. Yeah.

Speaker 5: (01:03:15)
Or no. Yeah. We're, we're they they're suggesting that, you know, it's a medical program. They're that you get the, uh, uh,

Leo Laporte: (01:03:22)
The max a Mac laptop. Yeah. That's the that's of course. The first thing to do is always call the school and say, you know, what do you guys use? Cuz if they have a bias in one direction or another, you want to know about it cuz you know, she shouldn't have to be the outcast in the bunch, but if they prefer Mac, that's fine. That's good. It's gonna be a little more powerful obviously than a Chromebook. Um, I doubt though that in the initial years she'll need something super powerful. She could take a lot of science classes. Um, so there's two grades right now of Mac laptops. There's the original M one. And then they recently, uh, six months ago released M one pro and M one base max based laptops. So theirs are pretty good power gradient from the base MacBook air MacBook pro 13 inch.

Leo Laporte: (01:04:12)
Um, those are the, those are the low end running on the M one, which by the way, they're still great. They're a year old. And then the new ones, which came out a few months ago, which is the 14 inch MacBook pro and the 16 inch MacBook pro, and those are running either the M one pro or the M one max, you could kind of split the difference and get an M one pro uh, it kind of depends on your budget. I bought when the new max came out, I bought the 14 inch base model, which was about $2,000. Now you can go a lot, hire our video, um, editor guy, uh, at the podcast network, Anthony, we got him the high end, uh, 16 inch M one max. And that, that maxed out almost $5,000. So there's a big range. And actually if, if two thousand's too rich for you, frankly, the abook errors are an excellent student laptop in those start of the thousand. So you have a pretty good range of prices. The one other thing I should say is she won't, she'll be starting in the fall. When is school start?

Speaker 5: (01:05:15)
Actually, she is going to be starting in June. She graduates in June 1st and she's gonna be starting June 6th. Sure.

Leo Laporte: (01:05:21)
Wow. No break. Yeah. Well she might as well get used to it. She's gonna be a doctor. Um, so yep. Yeah, golf doesn't start until your 12th or 13th year. So she's, she'll be good. This is good. She's gotta work hard. Um, Apple will announce new, probably new, uh, max. There's a possibility they'll do it in their March event, which we now think is March 8th, much more likely it'll be in the June event. So that might be, and that'll be like June 2nd week of June. So that's gonna be a little late for her. She probably wants to get it sooner than that. So what's your budget. I get, yes. I should have asked that upfront,

Speaker 5: (01:05:59)
Uh, uh, a actually, you know, knowing, uh, the price of max we're, we're okay with, you know, going up to $2,000. So we're, we're fine with that. Uh,

Leo Laporte: (01:06:08)
You know, the, the, the, the heirs are great, cuz they're super light, super thin, super portable. The new M one based heirs are in are the least expensive Mac books and have sufficient power for most of what she's been doing. Did they give you in the indication of, you know, how much power she should be looking for?

Speaker 5: (01:06:29)
Um, just, they just said Mac, the number of, uh, yeah, they, they, they suggested max, you know, for a couple reasons because, you know, they, it it'll, it'll, uh, sync up with some of the stuff that she has cause she's got on the iPhone. Yeah. And, uh, but they didn't say,

Leo Laporte: (01:06:44)
Uh, like the students, here's a program you're gonna be running or here's how much power you need or how much Ram you need or anything like that.

Speaker 5: (01:06:54)
Uh, they were two specific, uh, some of the students that were, she was talking to at the, at, uh, an open house space, they, all the students were recommending a max. Yeah. Um, looks like some of them have like 14 inches. So, so,

Leo Laporte: (01:07:07)
You know, and by the way, there, there is a student discount. So you should probably look at the college bookstore to see if you can buy it there. Otherwise Apple does. If you have a student ID, you can get the student discount. That's about a hundred bucks, so, okay, great. I think a good student laptop is the air it's lightweight. So it's super portable, excellent battery life. Uh, it's fan less, very quiet. And it's not, it's the, it's the same power as the, as the, the 13 inch, um, MacBook pro, if you want on a step up in power. I, like I said, I bought the M one pro 14 inch MacBook, and I think it's fantastic. It's kind of, for me, the best compromised laptop. So if, if, if thin and light and price low price is important, MacBook air is a great choice. Do get 16 gigs of Ram get Ram that you can get and storage. She's probably gonna want at least a terabyte of storage, uh, which will bring the price of the 14 inch up above, uh, 2200, I think. Um, but that, I would say the base model 14 inch is a very, very good choice for kind of bridging the gap between power and, uh, and price I think is a good choice. Uh,

Speaker 5: (01:08:23)
That, that, that sounds great because we're, we're looking for something that's gonna last her, uh, a little while until she finish at least finishes her bachelor's

Leo Laporte: (01:08:30)
Before she, yeah. It'll get you four years when she actually enters medical school, she's P probably gonna by then there'll be something even better. So, and she might need it. Yeah. Wonderful. Yeah, I think, well, thank you. Yeah. I mean, it really comes down to price need help. You're very, you're very welcome. I'm a big fan. Like I said, I have, I had both the original M one and now the new upgraded M one pro they're both excellent machines. If you want, you know, you're buying the latest MacBook pro. If you get the one with the, um, uh, M one pro or the M one max, the 14 inch, I wouldn't get the 16. I think that's gonna be too big and bulky for her at price will also, uh, you know, be big and bulky. I think the, the middle of the line MacBook pro 14 inch, probably all the difference, just so you know, between the M one pro and the M one Mac is all about graphics.

Leo Laporte: (01:09:17)
Processor, not gonna be important, probably for her. It's more important for videographers, for photographers, people working with large graphics, files, Photoshop, and so forth, perhaps, you know, I'm not sure what software she's gonna be using probably in her. Bachelor's not anything too sophisticated. So you don't M one max is overkill and price wise as well. So go with the M one pro 16 gigs of Ram terabyte, hard drive, 14 inch. I think that's a very good choice. Um, thank you for the calling. Congratulations. That's really, really great news. Eighty eight eighty eight, ask Leo, that's the phone number. If you wanna talk high tech, I'm here for you. I like spending your money, but I, as you can see, I'm not going crazy. You, I didn't say go out, buy the $4,500 one, although I'm sure she would like it Leola

Leo Laporte: (01:10:15)
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Speaker 6: (01:14:51)
How you doing? I

Leo Laporte: (01:14:52)
Am well, how are you

Speaker 6: (01:14:54)
Doing? Good. Nice and warm here in Arizona. I'm jealous. It's

Leo Laporte: (01:14:58)
It's cold and snowy all over the country.

Speaker 6: (01:15:02)
Yeah, well we, we get it in the summertime though when it gets up to 115. So yikes. Yeah. Okay.

Leo Laporte: (01:15:08)
That's

Speaker 6: (01:15:09)
A good point. Have a general question. I've always wanted ask, uh, you know, is, you know, two-factor often in expectation's great. Yeah, love it. But why isn't an option when you log into like a laptop? So for example, on my maca, if I'm at airport and I wanna make sure it's extra secure or I don't, I lose it, somebody could take it, you know, they could try to brute force my password and finally get it is, is

Leo Laporte: (01:15:33)
Well Mo modern MacBook in fact have fingerprint readers, which is two factor. It's a second factor. And if you wanna secure an older MacBook, there are ways to do it with, you know, I've always talking about these, uh, UB keys from yubico.com that I have there, little hardware USB keys can actually set up a Macintosh to require that physical hardware to log in. But the most important thing you're doing on the Macintosh and I'm sure you're already doing it is turning on the hard drive encryption. Yes. Because if somebody steals your laptop and the hard drive encryption is on, unless they can brute force your password, they can't decrypt a hard drive. It's just nonsense to them. So, right. So if you turn on file vault and all modern max come with fire file vault turned on by default it's phones too. Now, by the way, all phones are encrypted by default.

Leo Laporte: (01:16:30)
Uh, because encryption is now built into the hardware. It doesn't slow it down appreciably. So they say, well, might as well. That's good. It means you'd have to unlock the laptop, uh, to see what's on the hard drive. Uh, if you don't have a very good password, , you know, if it's monkey 1, 2, 3, it's possible somebody could steal your laptop and uh, and guess it. So it's probably good to a good password, but if you wanna have even more, you know, the modern max have fingerprint, uh, and you could, and there are, I, you know, it's complicated, but if you Google, uh, you know, Mac login, uh, UBI key, you'll be able to find the instructions for doing it. It's possible to set it up that way. And that's super secure. If you were a, if you were a, um, member of Congress, uh, I would do that for sure. Of course they're the ones, least likely to do it. Right.

Speaker 6: (01:17:21)
Right. I didn't know. I thought you, you had a choice when you had the fingerprint reader, you don't have to use that. You could still use the, a thief could still use your password to try to get in, right. Or, um,

Leo Laporte: (01:17:32)
Yeah, the fir yeah, in fact, that's, you're exactly right. Uh, the fingerprint reader while it is too factor is really more a convenience because it replaces the password. And if you have the password, then you can bypass it. You're absolutely right. So, uh Yubico which makes the UBI key has a page securely log to Mac OS with a U B key. That's gonna be, I mean, if you really want it secure, if you're worried about leaving it, lying around, if you use that plus file vault, you basically have an impermeable computer. It's just not, you know, it's never gonna, nobody's ever gonna be able to do anything to it. It's that's using the UBI key is a smart card basically.

Speaker 6: (01:18:12)
Gotcha. I was just thinking that Apple could make it an option for, for example, your phone is a two factor. So yeah,

Leo Laporte: (01:18:19)
That's a good question,

Speaker 6: (01:18:21)
You know, and then you that little number or you'd push your fingerprints on your phone and then you go in, it would be probably the easiest way to do it. I thought since it's so important, you know,

Leo Laporte: (01:18:30)
Apple, that's a really, really interesting question. I actually hadn't really thought about too. And they don't have like the phone. They don't have a thing that says, if you try this password more than 10 times erase the hard drive. Exactly. They do have fine. My though, which allows you to race the hard drive remotely. So

Speaker 6: (01:18:50)
I thought about, but if they, if they, if they're getting away from wifi, then there's no way for you to, I mean, look, I don't know. I don't think I'm that important, but I'm just kinda

Leo Laporte: (01:19:00)
no, you, but it's an important question for people who are worried about that. Um, you can, um, you can turn on, let's see there's two factor for your Apple ID. I wonder if you can require your Apple ID to log into your Mac. That would do it. Wouldn't it. But I, but I don't know if they allow, if they allow that. So Apple does have two factor for your, for your iCloud. Um, yeah. And I'm looking, uh, how to enable max new built two factor authenticator. Oh no, this is just, this is just, uh, for the password manager. So yeah, I like the idea if, I mean, if you were again, if you are you, you're not, you know, this all, all comes down to your so-called threat model. That's what the security wants use is a term that says, you know, what, what are you worried about basically?

Leo Laporte: (01:20:03)
And if your threat model is you're, you know, the president, uh, of a, of a country or a member of Congress or a famous movie star, um, your threat model is different than you and me where, you know, hackers, aren't gonna go after us individually. It's very hard. If you are a target, a specific target to secure your stuff in that case file vault, which is Apple's built in encryption is very good. And if you use that with a key to lock your laptop, you would have to have this physical key, then they'd have to knock you on the head. when they steal your laptop and steal your keys too. that kind of thing.

Speaker 6: (01:20:36)
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just also thinking I have a, you know, iMac at home, my breaks into my, my home takes the computer. I've got a whole, I have a lot of sensitive documents on there. Nothing you earth shattering, you know, not nothing proprietary, but I've got, I got stuff on there that, you know, I, I

Leo Laporte: (01:20:52)
Love the idea and I'm surprised Apple, hasn't done it. You, you, you hit something. That'd be great. That would say, okay, you wanna get in your Mac? Where's your iPhone. And then it would, could do that. Almost transparently using Bluetooth, Bluetooth Le it, it, it knows your iPhones there already. You know, for instance, you can paste stuff from your iPhone into your Mac, you know, uh, it would, that would be a simple thing for Apple to do. I don't know why Apple hasn't enabled that, but that's a great feature request for, uh, the next Mac OS. I like that idea.

Speaker 6: (01:21:22)
You do it with your Apple watch now. Right? You got that's right

Leo Laporte: (01:21:25)
On. Well, in fact, I do, I do log on . I think I can log onto my Mac with the Apple watch. Can I? Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 6: (01:21:34)
Yeah. But

Leo Laporte: (01:21:35)
I, my next, my it's, it's not two factor. It doesn't say, okay, now give me your password. Right. And that's what you're saying. You want, you want two different things required. You have to know a password and have access to the iPhone or the Apple watch or UBI key some, a dish factor. So that a bad guy can't just guess your password. I think that's a really great idea. Yeah.

Speaker 6: (01:21:55)
Okay. Just didn't know. It was always a stupid question. I

Leo Laporte: (01:21:57)
It's not actually, uh, I'm gonna have to, uh, do some research and we can maybe lobby, uh, Apple to do that. That would be really great. Uh, because there, I mean, Apple really wants everybody to own all the Apple things so this is in their interest, right? If they say, Hey, for extra security, if you've got an Apple watch and an iPhone, you get extra law, you get extra protection. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I like it. Tokyo. Tony, is it hot today in Chandler

Speaker 6: (01:22:26)
Right now is 62 degrees. Oh, it's gonna go up and about 65. Sunny of course. No rain. It's pleasant. A light jacket on you'll be pleasant.

Leo Laporte: (01:22:34)
Yeah. Hey, it's great to see you. Thanks or great to hear from me anyway, to talk to you finally. Thanks. Thanks for calling Tokyo, Tony regular in our chat room and uh, in our, uh, club TWI, uh, for, uh, the podcast network. So it's nice to see him, uh, or hear him in person. I always say, see it is though, isn't it? I mean, if you close your eyes, I can see Tokyo, Tony coming up in just a little bit. I don't know if it's anything like what he looks like for real. I don't know what he looks like. If you, uh, hang on for a little bit. We've got our great Johnny jet. I can see him cuz he Skypes in. And so I know what he looks like. Johnny will be talking about travel or starting to open up. What's that mean? How should you plan your next trip? Stay tuned.

Speaker 7: (01:23:31)
Hey Leo, how are are? How's your dad? He's doing, he's doing all right.

Leo Laporte: (01:23:36)
Is he asymptomatic still or

Speaker 7: (01:23:38)
Yes. Did I did, did I tell you that last week?

Leo Laporte: (01:23:41)
Did he just, you didn't but uh, Lisa follows you on Instagram or something.

Speaker 7: (01:23:45)
Okay. Cuz I thought it, it happened at after, right after I got off the phone with you. I got a phone from my call from my sister and I was like, what? It's his second time getting COVID did I called him up? And he's like, Hey it's Mr. Kogan. I go, I'm sorry. He goes, do you hear, I tested positive for Kogan? I go, what's called. He calls him Kogan. Yeah. Cuz he can't hear or, or see. So he can't, you know, he can't see very well. So he thought the virus was called Kogan. That's hysterical. So, and he was like, you know, they're wheeling me out of the room right now. The nurse is there and I can hear him say, what did I do? I didn't do anything. And so they put him in isolation and I was just broke my heart because oh, you know, I, I call him every day. I, you know, multiple times a day and you know, I could hear him just saying, please, after I got off the phone with him, he doesn't hang up. So sometimes I listen. Oh and he goes, please, nurse, can you please come in? I'm lonely. I'll read you poetry. I'm really good writer.

Leo Laporte: (01:24:44)
And uh, get a book. He can't read, get a book. Okay. Called being mortal.

Speaker 7: (01:24:52)
Okay. Gotta write this down. Really,

Leo Laporte: (01:24:54)
Really good. Um, I got it. Uh, somebody recommended, I got it for Lisa when she had a relative pass in the hospital. It was because of, COVID a terrible experience. It's about how we treat aged people. And you know, in the process it's a little grim because it's, you know, it's a roadmap of where we're headed. But if for anybody with an older parent, it's a must read it's uh, written by a ger geriatrician, a doctor of a geriatrics, a Gowane G a w a N. It's a great read being mortal being mortal, but it's you and uh, you and Natalie should both read it because it's about relating to, you know, helping older people. It talks about it's really, it's really fascinating. Um, talks about how nursing homes started and, and you know, uh, you know, it's called being mortal medicine and what matters in the end?

Speaker 7: (01:25:54)
Well, I just posted, uh, a link that I, I wrote a post about my dad. Cause I get so many questions. I don't wanna just keep, uh, writing it. So anyway, um, I just put it in the chat room, but anyway, there's a, there's a, a story on there. Not a story. Someone, this, someone wrote this amazing essay about what it's like to grow older. Yes. And they're just saying that, you know, just understand where I am just, you know, I want you to be with me's that's this book that's okay. And you gotta, when you have time yet to read it, I mean, it'll take two minutes, but will,

Leo Laporte: (01:26:23)
It is very

Speaker 7: (01:26:24)
Powerful. I, I will. And I, and I, I remind myself now I read it like once a week because I get, I get so frustrated

Leo Laporte: (01:26:30)
Sometimes talking to my dad so hard and, but we have to put ourselves in their shoes. This book, you, you will, this is a must read. Okay.

Speaker 7: (01:26:38)
Absolutely. It must. I put it in there. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (01:26:41)
Uh, but he's asymptomatic right now.

Speaker 7: (01:26:43)
Asymptomatic. He only has one. God bless the booster. He gets isolation outta tomorrow. Tomorrow.

Leo Laporte: (01:26:48)
God bless the booster. Isn't that amazing.

Speaker 7: (01:26:50)
His nephew. My cousin is like on life support basically because he did not get vaccinated. And

Leo Laporte: (01:26:57)
Uh, this shows you the difference. It just shows you the difference. And it just gets me that people are so anti VAX when it makes such a difference. I mean, here's a 93 year old guy with COVID asymptomatic. Yep. Asymptomatic because he's vaxed and boosted. Exactly. And Lisa and I, you know, Michael had it, uh, he had just gotten his booster, but he, but it was fairly mild, like a cold, but, and Lisa and I are 10 to him in the same house. We didn't get it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 7: (01:27:28)
Well, I have a sore throat right now and a cold and my daughter has a cold throat. Did you get tested?

Leo Laporte: (01:27:34)
Not yet.

Speaker 7: (01:27:34)
Yeah. I think I just got

Leo Laporte: (01:27:35)
This morning. Yeah. Go, go, go get tested. It's funny. I, I had never been tested until Michael. Got it now tested like many, many times.

Speaker 7: (01:27:46)
I've only been tested twice. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (01:27:48)
You get used to it. The PCR is nice cuz they don't have to stick it so far in cause it's so sensitive. They just swap your nose. Now it's very easy. Here we go. Listen, we're hitting the road again. Come oh's over. Yay. Well maybe not quite, but it's I wish it feels like we could see the light at the end of the tunnel. And if you're thinking about getting back into traveling, technology's gonna help Johnny jets here to help us Johnny jet.com his newsletters there, his podcast. Great articles. Uh, you should subscribe the newsletters. Those are free. Hi Johnny.

Speaker 7: (01:28:26)
Hello. So the TSA numbers, uh, yesterday 1.5 million people went through security checkpoints, same day, 2019 1.6 million. It was 78,000 difference. That's it? Which is shocking. Cuz uh, you know, a few days before it might have been like 500,000. Yeah. But it just shows that people are getting back out there. And a lot of countries actually in Europe are now they're opening up. They're opening up. I mean, Denmark, Norway, as long as you are vaccinated and boosted, most of these countries are requiring that some of the requiring um, 260 days, you have to have your last shot. So if you haven't been fully vaccinated, you're gonna get need to get boosted to get in. Some are 180 Israel's 180 days. You've had to head up your last shot.

Leo Laporte: (01:29:11)
Yeah. Yeah. So, and there's still some countries, China, Hong Kong where they they're going for zero COVID and they're still very, very, very restrictive Australia,

Speaker 7: (01:29:21)
New Zealand, New Zealand this week said they're gonna open up, but it's not gonna happen until October, at least for everyone else. If that's the earliest. And I think the same with Australia, I mean, Australia's, they're starting to open up too, but again, um, it's gonna take some time, but you know what

Leo Laporte: (01:29:34)
We did and it was wonderful. Lisa and I uh, uh, drove down through, saw Santa Cruz. We went down highway one, watched the ocean, went to Carmel by the sea. I know, you know it cuz your friend has a, the post ranch in and big sir. Uh, we didn't get as far as big sir, but we love Carmel. It's beautiful down there. And every restaurant we ate in was outdoors. COVID, you know, protocols in place, crowded, uh, new, not too crowded, even though the, uh, what they used to call the Bing Crosby clam bake was on the at and T the big pebble beach golf tournament. Oh, okay. That brings a lot of people of course, to the area. I bet. Uh, but even then it wasn't too bad. And uh, we were able every restaurant, even the fancy Michelin one star, uh, restaurant we ate at had courtyard outdoor seating. So we were very comfortable and felt very safe. It was good. That's good. Yeah. And how

Speaker 7: (01:30:27)
About the weather we got down here, down here, the super bowls coming up. I know you must have been really bummed about that game. Well, you lost I'm

Leo Laporte: (01:30:33)
Sorry, but not sorry. You lost our ticket dollars. We were gonna go down. But now that we're not in, it saved you. A lot of money saved us a lot of money. A

Speaker 7: (01:30:42)
Of money. Yeah. Um, yeah, but it's gonna be exciting. I think it's gonna be great weather because this will

Leo Laporte: (01:30:47)
Be crowded 70 eighties. I'm looking at the, the playoff games and they were all full stadiums. Oh, it will be sold out. So be you sold out. Yeah. Oh definitely.

Speaker 7: (01:30:55)
Yeah. It will be sold out

Leo Laporte: (01:30:56)
Bengals fans coming all the way from Cincinnati to see the hometown team playing SoFi.

Speaker 7: (01:31:02)
It's nice. The stadium's amazing.

Leo Laporte: (01:31:04)
Yeah. I I'd love to have seen the stadium. Henry. My son went for the playoff game that we lost the nine years lost, but uh, he said the energy was incredible. Really a fun event.

Speaker 7: (01:31:14)
I, I, I really want to go. So

Leo Laporte: (01:31:16)
He like most young people is, you know, basically his life is normal. He , he's already had COVID twice. He's vaccinated boosted. It's like, uh,

Speaker 7: (01:31:25)
Same with my sister in south Florida. I mean, she's

Leo Laporte: (01:31:27)
Like COVID COVID what's that? Yeah.

Speaker 7: (01:31:29)
Um, anyway, so there's a really good deal right now. If you're looking to surprise Lisa life flat seats, it's from Newark, but to either Paris or Milan for $2,800 round trip for two. So all

Leo Laporte: (01:31:42)
We have to do is get to Newark.

Speaker 7: (01:31:44)
Yeah. It's $700 per person each way, which is incredible for a life LA seat on one airline LA Capon, never heard of them.

Leo Laporte: (01:31:51)
It's a French,

Speaker 7: (01:31:53)
Um, airline it's they fly 300, a 3 21 Neo jets and it's only 76 seats on the plane. What? Every seat is business class. It's two by two

Leo Laporte: (01:32:04)
Configuration. Oh, sounds wonderful. So I'll put the

Speaker 7: (01:32:07)
Details on my newsletter.

Leo Laporte: (01:32:09)
Oh, I would love to surprise Lisa with a trip to Paris.

Speaker 7: (01:32:13)
So the thing, the thing about this is that first of all, it's only outta Newark. So live near

Leo Laporte: (01:32:17)
Newark to get out there. Okay. Yeah. Get the network. That's

Speaker 7: (01:32:20)
Fine. They also don't have a lot of flights. So, you know, in case something gets canceled, you could be stuck a little bit. So keep that in mind. Oh,

Leo Laporte: (01:32:28)
Stuck in. Newark's not my dream. Well,

Speaker 7: (01:32:30)
Hopefully be stuck in Paris. You

Leo Laporte: (01:32:32)
Stuck in Paris. I can live with definitely. So

Speaker 7: (01:32:35)
Just keep that in mind when you do it, cuz they don't have a lot of flights, like, um, know every other major carrier. Right. They can at least get you to London and then wherever they can get you out.

Leo Laporte: (01:32:45)
So keep that in mind. I'm buying a ticket right now. I'll figure out how to get home.

Speaker 7: (01:32:51)
Okay. And so news this week, Southwest airlines said, they're bringing back alcohol on the flights later this month, which I

Leo Laporte: (01:32:59)
Don't think that's a good idea at all. No, it's

Speaker 7: (01:33:01)
Not. Flight attendants are not happy. This

Leo Laporte: (01:33:03)
Has been, the problem is, you know, you hear about all these problems on flights now and it's always drunks.

Speaker 7: (01:33:09)
It is. And it's not because they're getting it on the plane. Cuz most of the airlines cut back. Especially in coach, they're they're getting tanked in the airport or they're bringing it on board, which are not allowed to do, but they're doing it. So, and also because there's been so many unruly passengers this week, the CEO of Delta airlines actually formally asked the attorney general to create a, a, a no fly list. He, they talked about it months ago, but now he actually really asked the attorney general and they're looking into it. But you know what? I don't think it's gonna happen because I think less than 1% of these people who are getting a, um, getting thrown off the planes are being arrested or even fined. It's a kind of a joke. You're kidding. No. And that's the, that's one of the big problems. I mean, they're

Leo Laporte: (01:33:50)
Not getting

Speaker 7: (01:33:50)
Punished. Not really, you know, they get arrested, they get, you know, they get they're on the news. Well,

Leo Laporte: (01:33:55)
Don't tell anybody that, oh no, you're going to jail for years, buddy. Yeah. Well, they're not, hopefully they go, okay, fine. You had a good time. You sober up. Okay, let you go. But you know what? If

Speaker 7: (01:34:06)
This goes through, this will make a difference because then you're not gonna be able to fly on any airline. You're gonna be treated as a terrorist if you're,

Leo Laporte: (01:34:14)
If you're a no fly list because you were, uh, unruly. Yes. But

Speaker 7: (01:34:17)
You had to be convicted for that to happen. It's

Leo Laporte: (01:34:19)
Dangerous. Uh, for everybody don't be unruly on a plane. It's just

Speaker 7: (01:34:23)
Not only dangerous. It's just, it's a total hassle for everyone unpleasant. And you know, there's people out there. I just don't understand this week. Uh, actually I might have been last week, you United airlines, there was a flight from Newark to Israel and people tried to upgrade to business class cuz the seats were open mid-flight and they said, sorry, the, the pilots turned around and dropped them off. But the flight got canceled because the pilots and flight crew timed out. So it just is a real inconvenience. And I just don't get these people who, how wide put your mask on and, and, and enjoy the flight. You, you know, um,

Leo Laporte: (01:34:55)
Part of the problem with news is it only focuses on the horrible stuff and it doesn't give you any totally, you know, there's no, you know, they should put it next to a, you know, a pencil to measure the a so you get, this is cuz it, it magnifies things. And so, you know, oh, there's a couple of incidents a week. Is that what it is? Is

Speaker 7: (01:35:12)
Yeah. It's, it's not a

Leo Laporte: (01:35:13)
Lot. It's not that many given the number, no millions of miles flown every, every week. And is it here's the real question? Is it worse than it was before? Or are we just paying attention? Oh no,

Speaker 7: (01:35:21)
No. It's definitely worse. It's definitely, it's like, it's like the amount of, um, you know, what disturbances there have been in the last year were more than every year combined since a people, according to the flight attendant union. I, I

Leo Laporte: (01:35:35)
Honestly, the, the quarantine has been so bad for our mental health. I think that that's the reason, right? We're just, well we're nuts.

Speaker 7: (01:35:42)
Well, that's one reason, but it's really the mask. I think 70% of the problems it's about not wearing the mask about the mask and they just don't wanna be told

Leo Laporte: (01:35:48)
What to do. Don't tell me to wear a mask. You're wearing pants who told you to wear pants? Go ahead, try taking 'em off. Let's see how that works out.

Speaker 7: (01:35:56)
And it all depends on the flight for my friend sent me a text yesterday of a photo of her flying back from London to Seattle and the passenger next to her had the mask on like a unicorn and the, and she said it was a whole flight. He wore it

Leo Laporte: (01:36:08)
Like that. Just to show that he's not, I'm not a puppet. Yeah. I mean, but you're puppet all the time you wear, you wear pants. You don't walk down the street naked dude. Oh, but I'm choosing that. Well, not pants. Come on. Well you're not. Oh Johnny. I'm kidding. There's a rule on this airplane. Everybody must wear pants. Yeah. It's like the guy who I guess wanted to show, he had rights who got up on the, uh, the cart and defecated on it. Uh, nice. That's good behavior. Yeah. You got your rights. Congratulations. That was, that was before. Why aren't they charging these people? Why are not? They throwing them in airplane. Jail airports have jails. Don't they? Little airport jail. Just a little, I don't know what they do actually make 'em eat airline food for a couple of weeks. Then see how they feel. Yeah. Johnny Jett com Johnny jet.com/newsletter, Johnny jet, uh, on the Instagram, on the Twitter. I hope your dad feels better. Hang on. He's got the Kogan. Uh, and I hope you stay safe and we'll see you next week, Johnny. Thank you. Thank you. You too. Oh, ah,

Speaker 7: (01:37:26)
Let's put that in the chat room. I'll

Leo Laporte: (01:37:28)
Tweet it out. I wanna do this, uh, $1,351 round trip from Newark to or Lee direct full I and it's all life flat seats.

Speaker 7: (01:37:42)
Yep. LA

Leo Laporte: (01:37:45)
Yeah, no, I'm on the website. I just, uh, booked it for April 1st through April 15th.

Speaker 7: (01:37:51)
Well, Hey, I, I

Leo Laporte: (01:37:54)
Hear that. I'm not going, I can't do that. In fact, you know, even if, I mean, I could really tempt Lisa cuz she loves Paris. But uh, even if we did do that, she might be nerve like time is we're gonna wait. She's gonna wait. We are, you know,

Speaker 7: (01:38:11)
Well, I, I should have mentioned that you can fly coach by the way. Not on, not on LA compet cuz they don't LA P cuz they don't have coach. They don't have no coach, but other airlines. I mean I was just looking San Francisco to Vienna 4 30, 8 round trip. So you and you can go all around. That was Copenhagen actually. But you can do it pretty much every city in Europe from now until the, you know mid-May and then they stop the FARs go up and they in, in September to December, they go down again.

Leo Laporte: (01:38:38)
I, how is so is LA new?

Speaker 7: (01:38:41)
No they've been around for, I don't know how many

Leo Laporte: (01:38:43)
It's all business class years. And they must be they're doing right. Huh?

Speaker 7: (01:38:47)
You know they were not doing well. Uh, during the uh, yeah, obviously they shut down for a while. Ooh.

Leo Laporte: (01:38:52)
You can go to ne as well. If you wanna do the south of France. Yes. Ooh. I mean, but I would get Paris. We miss Paris.

Speaker 7: (01:39:00)
That's my wife's favorite city in the world, but I just interviewed, uh, one of my readers actually, who just returned from Paris and actually I did it while she was in Paris and she talked about it cuz she actually, she contracted COVID while she was there. She didn't know until she was taking the test to come home. So she had to quarantine while she was there. But um,

Leo Laporte: (01:39:19)
See that's why Lisa doesn't want to go,

Speaker 7: (01:39:21)
But she was asymptomatic and she made the most of it. Most of it and sure. And she wasn't uh, upset, but yeah, that's why I haven't trouble internationally because I, I I'd be afraid that I would test positive even if I'm asymptomatic and I wouldn't be able to come up 'em to see my kids for a couple weeks and you have to pay for it unless you get insurance, which we can talk about sometime it looks

Leo Laporte: (01:39:45)
Like lock company has, uh, free changes, no change fair, which is nice. You

Speaker 7: (01:39:51)
Know what every airline does now, that's the one silver lining of the pandemic because except up for basic economy fairs. So for like Delta, you know, don't buy the basic economy or American or United, right. And, and also these low fair carriers, like spirit and Allegiant, you know, you, you really have to read the fine print to make sure you can change it. And that's why I've been telling people, if you are gonna travel overseas, book it on a us airline that way. If you know there's another variant and you can't get there, you can at least fly somewhere domestically. Yeah. By using, by flying a by booking on a, a us carrier.

Leo Laporte: (01:40:30)
Wow. This the company looks so cool. Oh my gosh. oh, dreaming. I'm gonna show Lisa. I'm gonna see if I can talk her into it. All right. Good. I, we we're going on a cruise in July, but it's Alaska and it's kind of work cuz it's the club and

Speaker 7: (01:40:48)
It's definitely work. You gotta go to Paris.

Leo Laporte: (01:40:50)
She deserves it. Yeah. She deserves a weekend. Paris. We could just go for the weekend. Yeah. It's cheap to get to Newark west coast. Well, it's not that hard to get to Newark. That's easy. S the photo door. It's not hard. We go on mint and we could live flat. Get up, live flat again. Yes. all right, John, I'm glad your dad's doing okay. I'm sorry that he got it again. Um, wow. Yeah. That nursing home full of COVID read the book. There's also a, there's also an interview. If you Google it, there's interviews with him on frontline and stuff. Okay. Have a good one. You too. Bye.

Leo Laporte: (01:41:27)
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Caller #1: (01:42:15)
Hey Leo. How you doing

Leo Laporte: (01:42:16)
Today? I am great. How are things in Warren?

Caller #1: (01:42:19)
Um, snow up to the garbage can. Lids. Yikes. Cold. Yikes. Yeah. Wow. 15 inches in, uh, on Martin Luther king day and Thursday night in the Friday. We probably had another 15 inches more.

Leo Laporte: (01:42:34)
Yeah. I saw that you guys were getting that second dose. Wow. Well,

Caller #1: (01:42:39)
Yeah, that was that big. What was it? Winter storm landing. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (01:42:44)
They call 'em bomb. Cyclones.

Caller #1: (01:42:47)
Yeah, it was, I've never seen it this much in, in my lifetime. Wow. Going on 65 and it's, uh, pretty awesome. How much snow we got, but yeah, my, my right arm's about to fall off from shelves.

Leo Laporte: (01:43:00)
I can imagine.

Caller #1: (01:43:02)
Yeah. Hey, walkie talkie on, uh, on iPhones. Can you do that on wifi or is it the,

Leo Laporte: (01:43:11)
You mean on the Apple watch? Walkie talkie.

Caller #1: (01:43:13)
Yeah. On Apple watches. I, a friend of mine wanted to know she could talk to her, uh, granddaughter and she was gonna use walkie talkies, but I don't, I didn't suggest that. I said, well, she has an Apple watch. I said we could. I think the girls have made me about four years old

Leo Laporte: (01:43:32)
And I don't know if she wants an Apple watch. how, how far away does the granddaughter live?

Caller #1: (01:43:38)
They live right next door.

Leo Laporte: (01:43:40)
Yeah. I don't. Yeah, you could do walkie talkie in the Apple watch, but she'd need an Apple watch. Um,

Caller #1: (01:43:45)
Does that have to be hooked to the wifi or does it, does the Apple watch have to have cellular?

Leo Laporte: (01:43:50)
You can buy an no, it can work over wifi. You can, you can buy it. Uh, it can use wifi. It can actually use Bluetooth to an iPhone. So it could then use the iPhone or so it can use cellular wifi. And if you had a, an Apple watches, don't do well without iPhones. So you're, I'm sure. Right. That's what I thought. Your friend has an iPhone the four year. Old's gonna be a little bit of the issue. I don't know if you want to get an Apple watch for a four year old. It'd be cheaper to get her just a real, like a little, uh, uh, walkie talkie. The, the family radio FRS it's called and it would go, uh, next door, easy.

Caller #1: (01:44:31)
What's that one called

Leo Laporte: (01:44:33)
FRS FRS. You , here's a dirty little secret. They don't want anybody to know this. It's the old CB band but they go, now they call it FRS family radio service. And, uh, they're inexpensive. You can get a pair of them for, you know, under a hundred bucks I think. Um, and the kid of four year old would love that talking to a grandma on the walkie talkie would be so cool. So cool. Mm-hmm um,

Caller #1: (01:44:59)
One other thing I wanted to check with you. I don't wanna hold Jeff too much. Sure, sure. They don't put, they don't put the SSDs in Chromebook anymore. My wife broke her Chromebook and we're looking to get another one and, and they have the

Leo Laporte: (01:45:12)
MMC. Oh yeah. They use the cheap, not all, but some, most of them do cuz it's not. Yeah. It's not very fast and yeah. Em, MMC. Yeah. Um, there's not

Caller #1: (01:45:22)
The difference. They're a lot slower. Can you see they're slower with the

Leo Laporte: (01:45:25)
SSD? Um, you still can. It's gonna cost more. So the, so the way the, um, the way save money in Chromebooks, you know, the reason you get a $200 Chromebook is they, they cut costs. You're trying

Caller #1: (01:45:38)
To even make 'em less

Leo Laporte: (01:45:39)
Expensive. Yeah, exactly. They cut, they cut costs. So they usually have bad keyboards, track pads, screens. And another way they cut cost is instead of having SSD, they use E M C, which is essentially a micro SD card. So you've used EMC. It's a SD card that just goes in there. And um, might,

Caller #1: (01:46:00)
Might just look, I dunno how well they have,

Leo Laporte: (01:46:03)
It's not the reason it doesn't matter so much is most of the time on a Chromebook, your storage is not on the computer. It's in the cloud. In fact, that's the hardest thing for people to use Chromebooks get used to is the idea that you don't really want to put stuff on your hard drive. You want to, you wanna let the Chromebook store it on Google drive. So

Caller #1: (01:46:24)
No, we're not storing anything. And I, I never usually

Leo Laporte: (01:46:27)
Do, but so that it's a little slower is not a big deal. And it's also cheap to cheap to fix because often when they open it up, you see my micro SD card in there. That's what they're actually using. So, so, you know, it's, uh, SSD would be faster and better if you're using windows or Macintosh. Certainly you want SSD, you don't want EMC, but on a Chromebook because storage is not as important. I think it's, it's probably okay. But yeah, if, if you get an Acer spin or one of the higher end Chromebooks, they're not gonna be a hundred bucks, they're gonna be more like 500 bucks. Uh, you'll get a much, you know, faster drive. But again, I, you know, that's why a lot of these come with six teen gigabytes. I mean, they don't come with much storage because you're not supposed to really use them.

Leo Laporte: (01:47:12)
The, the idea is, uh, for a Chromebook, two things, two reasons you don't wanna lose local storage. One, if you get malware on it, you want to use power wash, which wipes, the whole thing out, brings it back to the factory state. And all malware is gone. There's not, you're not gonna get malware, but if you did, it gets it back to the fact. The other reason is it's, if you lose it, the idea of the Chromebook is you could log, you get a new one log in and there's all your stuff, which would not be the case. If you, if you save it to the local drive, you wanna always use the Google drive and everything on a Chromebook kind of, uh, does that. Okay. All right. Very good. You can get a pair of walkie talkies, family, radio service, walkie talkies, uh, on, uh, on Amazon for $29. The Motorola T 100 talk about, and if she's next door it'll work just fine. They have more like a mile range. They have a longer range. It's CB. So you can teach your four year old go breaker breaker one nine. We got a smoky,

Speaker 8: (01:48:17)
Smoky

Leo Laporte: (01:48:17)
Bandit got a smoky on our tail, hauling the hogs. Great to talk to you, Tom, stay safe in all that snow. All right. We will, man. I, you know, it's funny when you don't live in the snow. I grew up in the snow. Of course when you don't live in the snow, you miss it. Like here at California hall, it'd be so much fun. Everything was snow house six, oh man. Six feet of snow. That'd be so cool. And then when you live in it and you gotta shovel it, you realize that's not so cool. And that's not cool. Kelvin San Diego, Leo Laport, the tech guy, no snow in San Diego. I don't think,

Speaker 8: (01:48:51)
Uh, that's for sure. There's definitely no snow in San Diego.

Leo Laporte: (01:48:54)
Good. That's for sure, man. Unreasonable. Love it.

Speaker 8: (01:48:57)
yep. Yep. So, um, my question for you and was, um, so I've failed my live stream three weeks in a row. Now

Leo Laporte: (01:49:07)
You did what to it. You, you failed it. I,

Speaker 8: (01:49:10)
I failed. Did you fail tired,

Leo Laporte: (01:49:13)
Failing a live stream, fail. That's embarrassing. What happened?

Speaker 8: (01:49:16)
Well, my microphone was, uh, not loud enough, so my music was overkill. My stream. Yes, yes. You couldn't hear what

Leo Laporte: (01:49:25)
I was saying. I've done that too. I've done that too. It's easy to do. What are you using a stream? Are you using OBS or what are you using?

Speaker 8: (01:49:33)
So I'm using the, um, zoom, the, the zoom P four.

Leo Laporte: (01:49:38)
Oh yeah. Yeah. We talked about that before, so yeah. Does that have a live component? Like you can plug that into the computer. Yeah. And use it like a microphone. Okay.

Speaker 8: (01:49:48)
Exactly. Okay. So my question is, is, is there a way to pre, like I have a green screen room and test all yes. That I can use. Yeah. What would I use to do that? So,

Leo Laporte: (01:50:00)
Uh, when I was streaming my Val Heim games on Twitch mm-hmm I mean, nothing like you, you do some amazing pottery online, but I was just streaming a game. Um, people would, I, I had a chat room open and people would say, we can't hear you, the music's too loud. Or, you know, like that mm-hmm . And then, so that's, for me, that's what I would just do. I would start it and say, can you hear me? And they would tell you no, and you can mix it that way, but you can also prerecord if you use OBS almost any package, you'll let you do this. But, uh, certainly OBS studio will do it. You could say, I don't want to stream, I wanna record there's a button right below the streaming button. Uh, and you just record it and then you play it back and you go, oh, that sounds okay. There are meters, but they're not very good. Uh, they're not useful. I don't think they're useful, uh, in the way that the professional meters that we use here are. Uh, but, but there are on, and, and I, I know you're blind, so meters are probably not super helpful. Can you see it all? I can't remember.

Speaker 8: (01:51:01)
No, I can't see. I, I, it's basically a FA the most foggy day you've ever seen in your life, uh, all the time,

Leo Laporte: (01:51:07)
So, okay, so you have a little vision, but not much. Yeah. I can see the shapes, but yeah. So if you put your eyes right next to the screen, you might be able to see the meters going, blah, blah, blah. But it's pretty hard even for a sighted person to balance the audio that way. So play, just record it and play it back. And, you know, you probably got great hearing. You could tell immediately and adjust it accordingly. Good to talk to you. Calvin Leo, Laporte the tech guy, there is snow in San Diego, Kelvin the chat room, which knows all they say. You can go, you can go to the mountains. Uh, an just, just an hour away, go to the, uh, Kayam Maka, Rancho state park. And, uh, you'll get an afternoon of snow. Not that you want it.

Speaker 8: (01:51:54)
no, I'll take my, my 72 at the moment. So

Leo Laporte: (01:51:59)
Yes. Oh, we're you know, Lisa and I always think we should move to San Diego. We're gonna, I think we'll be, we'll go down there next month. We like to go down to the cor a hotel Del cor on and oh yes. Love that. Yeah. So sit

Speaker 8: (01:52:12)
On the beach. If you wanna, a quick tour on my studio, I'd be happy to,

Leo Laporte: (01:52:16)
Oh yeah. I will. If I'm going down there, I will let you know. Cause I would love to, and we would like to buy some lottery,

Speaker 8: (01:52:21)
So for sure. And you can see all the stuff that's not on the website. Good. Um, because I have a lot of story pieces that are coming out, um, over the next, uh, six months, so nice. Um, of people's stories. And I basically tell people's stories and I make a piece that tells their stories, so,

Leo Laporte: (01:52:39)
Wow. You're so cool. You're super cool. Thank you, man. You're super cool. Thank you, Calvin. So

Speaker 8: (01:52:46)
Just a quick update for your, the, uh, the fraud thing I told you about. Yeah, we got it solved.

Leo Laporte: (01:52:51)
Oh, good. To get your money back.

Speaker 8: (01:52:54)
Well, I got, he got his money back. We just closed the account and then that way we just worked

Leo Laporte: (01:52:59)
It out, but you had sent him stuff, right?

Speaker 8: (01:53:02)
Yeah. But it was broken shipping. So I was able to do insurances on it. Oh, beautiful.

Leo Laporte: (01:53:09)
Say, Hey, so everybody's happy. Stop the claim. yeah. Oh good. So it really did break in shipping, so he wasn't completely fraudulent. Okay. Okay.

Speaker 8: (01:53:17)
Yeah, for sure. Okay. So

Leo Laporte: (01:53:19)
Good. I'm glad to hear that. Kelvin, have a great one. So, all right. You too. All right. Take care. Bye-bye well, Hey, Hey. Hey. How are you today? Leo Laporte here. The tech guy, time to talk computers, the internet, home theater, digital photography, smart phones, smart watches, all that stuff. Eighty eight eighty eight. Ask Leo that's the phone. If you wanna talk. Hi, 8, 8, 8, 8 2 7 5 5 3 6. Toll free. Anywhere in the us or Canada. Uh, the hams are correcting me and for BFR in our, uh, discord chat says no, Leo, no Leo citizens band and FRS are distinct. I didn't realize CB is still around citizen. His band is distinct from other personal radio service allocations, like F R S G M R S, mez, U H F CB, et cetera. They're all unlicensed, uh, radio services. Like walkie-talkie not like ham where you have to get a licensed and they can and be used for, uh, business communications or personal communications.

Leo Laporte: (01:54:30)
So truckers used to have CB's and all that. The range of CB's about citizens about about three miles. And, uh, apparently it's on 462 megahertz. I'm sorry. It's on 27 megahertz family radio services on 4 62. So, geez. I don't know why I, I confused the two they're similar in the sense that they're UN UN you know, they're available for public use. You don't need a license to use them. Eighty eight, eighty eight. Ask Leo the phone number, Michael, on the line from Anaheim. Hello, Michael, push that button. I didn't push this button now. I can say it. Hello, Michael.

Speaker 9: (01:55:12)
Hey Leo. How are you?

Leo Laporte: (01:55:13)
Well, I'm great. How are you?

Speaker 9: (01:55:16)
Uh, good. My friend. Hey, uh, I recently started using an iPhone 11 and anytime I do a voice detect all names first and last name appear all in caps. I was wondering if you knew how to resolve that.

Leo Laporte: (01:55:27)
So what are you talking about? You say voice detect, you mean voice dictation? What are you talking about with voice detect?

Speaker 9: (01:55:33)
Yeah. So if I'm sending a text message to somebody and I say, hello, John Smith, how are you?

Leo Laporte: (01:55:39)
John Smith coming? Oh, capitalizes it in dictation. Well, let me try that. That's interesting.

Speaker 9: (01:55:44)
Huh? It happens in notes too. If I'm keeping, like, if I just do the, the, the Apple notes, anytime I speak to anybody's first and last name, or even just first name, it comes out all in caps. And so when I go back and have to, you know, edit the document, I have to that's weird.

Leo Laporte: (01:56:00)
Hello, Henry Laport. What is your sir? See, it's not doing that for me. So I'm gonna guess that it's in caps because it's getting the name from your, uh, contact list. Have you looked at your contacts to see if they're in caps?

Speaker 9: (01:56:18)
Um, that that's possible. Yeah. Some of 'em are and yeah, maybe that is where it's getting it from. Cause

Leo Laporte: (01:56:24)
It's, it's, you know, it doesn't know the names, but in order to get the names, right. It actually uses the contact list as a dictionary and yeah, it will copy the capitalization in your contact list. So, um, and

Speaker 9: (01:56:36)
That's a possibility yet because majority of my, uh, contacts are in capital. Another thing though, when I'm doing text messages and it's doing the predictive text, it also will suggest things that are in all cap. Ah,

Leo Laporte: (01:56:51)
Okay. So this is another, then it's a different situation. All right. If other things are also doing this, there is, um, Hmm. Cause there's, uh, there's auto, correct? Right. Um,

Speaker 9: (01:57:07)
Like I'll type in the word peanut butter. And then like when I go to select peanut butter from the list, sometimes it'll make that word caps and I'm like,

Leo Laporte: (01:57:14)
No, I don't. And when you say caps, is it all capped or just the first letter of each?

Speaker 9: (01:57:19)
The entire word? Yeah. Like bold it look like I'm shouting,

Leo Laporte: (01:57:23)
Like you're shouting at 'em.

Leo Laporte: (01:57:29)
Um, so yeah, so I don't, that's interesting. I, I would still look at your contact list, but now that you've told me that it sounds like something else is going on there is, uh, on the iPhone, an auto correct dictionary. Um, so I would check that, make sure peanut butter is not somehow getting auto corrected, you know, there's auto capitalization, but all that does is capitalize the first letter of every sentence and the first letters of proper names and stuff. Yeah. So I don't think that makes yeah, that's not, that's not it. Why would it do

Speaker 9: (01:58:02)
I called you? Cause every time I like try to, to search for it, you know, to how to fix it, it just kept telling me about the auto capitalization and I shut it off and it still does it. So I was like, it's gotta be another setting.

Leo Laporte: (01:58:15)
That's really interesting. You're not shouting at the phone. You know, I'm just teasing. , wouldn't it be funny if the iPhone measured level of your voice, if you whisper, it makes it all lower case. If he shouted, it makes it all upper case. I don't think they do that. There, there has been of late, a lot of complaints about autocorrect on iOS, because one of the things iOS does, and this is a bad thing, is it doesn't just get the corrections from you. They're doing some sort of crowdsourcing in the keyboard. And I'm wondering if that might be related this lately. People have been really complaining about the choices it makes. They're saying, I never use that word. Why is it suggesting that? So if you go into the settings was in response to that. If you go into settings into general and reset among the reset choices are the keyboard dictionary, which means that any custom words it's got in there will be reset.

Leo Laporte: (01:59:14)
And so that they, you know, that's been recommended because of this weird thing where autocorrect is giving you suggestions that you don't make any sense. Um, but I, but it might also help in this case. So look at the context, make sure they're normally cased. I bet they are now that you mention peanut butter, it sounds like something else is going on. Um, so, uh, look at your, your keyboard dictionary, your, uh, cuz you have, there's a, there's an, a local autocorrect dictionary in addition to the kind of general one. Um, oh and here's okay. Scooter X has been doing a little digging in the Apple discussion forums, autocorrect changes, first names to all caps um, so yeah, this person says going to settings general keyboards English, there is an auto capitalization setting that as in my knowledge is to auto capitalize, the beginning of sentences and, and per and proper names. But apparently according to this guy, and this goes back to 2018, it did fix the weird auto correction. So you might turn it off and on again, something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 9: (02:00:35)
All right. Yeah. I'll take a look at it. So you think it's in the keyboard setting

Leo Laporte: (02:00:38)
Somewhere? Uh, so this auto correct is in, uh, the auto correct is in reset. So settings general reset the keyboard settings, settings, general keyboards. There's a setting for auto capitalization, which you can turn off. I initially rejected that as a solution because that's designed not to capitalize whole words, but just the first letter of proper nouns and at the beginning of a sentence, but somebody is reporting on the Apple discussions for him. We'll put the threat on our show notes that it did in fact fix it when he turned it off. Yes. The beginning of sentences weren't capitalized. That's not what you want, but then he turned it back on again. And peanut butter was no longer uppercase. So maybe there's something, a bug of some kind, I don't know. All

Speaker 9: (02:01:23)
Right, well, appreciate your

Leo Laporte: (02:01:25)
Guidance. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Couple of things to try sometimes, you know, I can't guarantee a fix. Um, there was people were really complaining about auto, correct? That was like in the last couple of months people were saying, why is it? And then, and some of the autocorrect suggestions were awful. Like, no, I would never wanna say that. Why are you suggesting that? Uh, and it turns out Apple has some sort of collaborative thing where it's not just looking at what you type you'd think autocorrect would learn from your typing alone. No, it's learning from other people who have horrible habits and say terrible things. And so apparently it's picking up your phone is picking up bad habits from other people. So there, if that's happening to you, there is a way to reset it. it's in the reset settings. Uh, but then you're gonna lose all the customization. So maybe that's not the best, uh, solution. I don't, I don't know. I'm sure Apple has, at some point addressed, this is trying to fix it. 88, 88. You, these, these are horrible suggestions. 88, 88, ask Leo, Leo. Laporte the tech guy. Uh, where are your calls coming up?

Leo Laporte: (02:02:52)
Micah says, uh, a friend of his was having a hell of a time with it. Even after we reset it. It was still doing weird things. I wish I could find some of these tweets from people. Um, because, because, uh, just hysterical tweets, but like the things that auto correct was suggesting just bizarre. Micah, when are we gonna get you back in? I miss having you here on. I have to work too hard. Whenever you feel safe. You come on in. Okay. Oh yeah. That's a, yes. That goes way back D YAC. Yeah, that goes way back. But this was a, this was a newer weirder problem. Like it wasn't , it wasn't just bad autocorrect. It was like, just like, what are you thinking? Why would I ever want to type that? Yeah. D Y a C is, goes back a long ways. I forgot about that.

Leo Laporte: (02:04:05)
Uh, no, you know, Sonoma CA well, no, I don't think we're, I don't ask Lisa, but I don't think we're affected by the mandate, uh, because that's gatherings are more than 50 people. So I don't think that we are, it's more like if you feel safe around me than anything else. I mean, if you, if, and so it's really up to you, um, you know, John's in here, Burke's in here, so I don't think we can, we would prohibit you from coming in. It's more, whatever your comfort level is. And I don't wanna put any pressure on you, man. So FRS goes up to two miles, GM RS. I don't know what GM RS is. That's on UUA H F that goes three miles. MERS is VHF. That's six miles CB on am is six miles single side band CB 12 Watts, 10 miles, a hundred Watts, 15 miles, which is probably the farthest. If you're not a ham, Huh? Pedestrian vehicle break breaker one nine. And we got us a convoy.

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Leo Laporte: (02:06:11)
Leo Lepo tech guy, Golia in our, um, chat room or discourse chat, an interesting thought, you know how there's something called Google bombing, where you can affect Google's search results. If enough people get together, uh, they can change Google's search results by linking on their website. Uh, I, I can't remember how you do it, but, you know, Google bases is search results on, on links. And so if it sees a, you know, if a hundred thousand people do an incorrect link, Google's gonna, no, it's a computer. It's just gonna say, okay, that must be right. Golia wonders if you're getting that kind of thing with autocorrect. Like if there's autocorrect bombing, like, uh, I'm not talking about, so in the old days there would, you know, autocorrect would be terrible, but I'm talking about just weird. Uh, and as a perfect example, Fon, our chat room says, and I don't know if this happened or not, but it's the kind of thing I'm talking about. He says he, he typed in on his iPhone veggie burger and it autocorrected it to chicken. Now that's a, that would be if that's the truth. And I think it is, that's an example of what I'm talking about. Like, it's just weird. Why would you, why would you think I typed chicken? I understand if I typed veggie burger and you replaced burger, you know, with Burber or something that, that you thought it was a typo, but that's not what that's, if you type veggie burger, it's not a typo for chicken.

Leo Laporte: (02:07:44)
Oh, he said it didn't really happen, but it's like that and Kim's saying, well, I just did it and didn't happen. But, but Kim, that's the point. It's different for everybody. So it, somehow autocorrect is getting information from other people, but the results aren't the same across the board. It's very strange. It's a semantic corrections as Danielle. Yes. I know. I sound like I'm talking to ghosts, but they're actually real people was just in the chat room and I'm seeing there, there, nevermind. Michael is on the line. Oops, that was Michael Roger's on the line from San Diego. Hello, Roger.

Speaker 11: (02:08:25)
Hello Leo. Hello, Roger. Okay.

Leo Laporte: (02:08:29)
Roger. Roger.

Speaker 11: (02:08:31)
Yep. I came across a really good deal on a one plus nine pro. Yes. Uh, the reviews on it were pretty good. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (02:08:42)
It's a nice phone.

Speaker 11: (02:08:44)
Only. I I'm currently on at and T it went over there and talked to them and they said they don't won't support it on 5g. I ah, and the only way to get 5g is to buy a phone from them.

Leo Laporte: (02:09:03)
Okay. That's not true. , that's a, it's a nice try. Uh, I can't guarantee that the one plus nine pro will work with at, and T's 5g. The problem is the, uh, the bands, the frequencies they're using. And it may be, you know, this phone is made in China. It's made for a global audience. It has radios. It certainly will work in the us, but, uh, and it, and it says 5g, but whether it will work with all 5g, there's, there's three different kinds of 5g. There's low, medium and high band, and they're on different frequencies. So the, your customer sales rep, and I wanna underscore sales there, cuz the guy's doing a good job of trying to get you to buy their phone, uh, is telling you, is it, you know, it doesn't work with the frequencies we use. Now you can verify that or not.

Leo Laporte: (02:09:55)
By going to GSM arena.com, which is a site where they put phone specs and you can type in the actual exact model and you wanna make sure it's the right model because companies like oppo will make models for different geographic regions. So you wanna make sure it's the model, you know, yours probably said global, but you're gonna wanna look it up and make sure that it's support it's at and T's radio frequencies for 5g at and T it's interesting because, uh, 5g MI what they call millimeter wave or high band, which is very, very high frequency is not offered, uh, by everybody. I think Verizon, I know Verizon, I think at and T are also doing it, but it's in a very limited area. You have to be very close to the towers unless you are in that particular area. It's not a nothing to worry about.

Leo Laporte: (02:10:46)
Then there's mid band and low band. And the low band has been around for a while. 700 megahertz ATT offers it, uh, T-Mobile offers it. It's much more ubiquitous, but it's not much better than LTE. You wouldn't miss it if you didn't have it, let's put it that way. The one that's interesting is this new C band, which at and T is rolling out along with Verizon C band is kind of mid range, four to eight gigahertz and actually is quite fast, hundreds and hundreds of megabits per second. Uh, we just, the, there was a sea band tower just put up in our neighborhood and I went over. I tried it. I couldn't believe I was getting 500 megabits down. I was, uh, I was mind boggling on a phone. Wow. Wow. Now do you need that? Probably not. So that's the other thing is, oh yeah, you won't be able to use our latest C band tower, but maybe you will be able to use LTE and, and the low band 5g, which is roughly the same and are fine.

Leo Laporte: (02:11:47)
So it, it really depends on what you, what kind of speeds you need. Most people a hundred megabits is T yeah. Right? Yeah. But yeah, so, um, there, there is, uh, Android headlines, the Opus, I'm sorry, one plus nine series won't work on at, and G's 5g network that was accurate. Uh, the iPhone will, whether you buy it from at and T or not, uh, the Google, uh, six, uh, uh, pro will, whether you buy it from ATT or not. So the sales associate was telling you the truth in the first clause of the sentence, but not in the second clause. they, they want you to buy a phone from them. They make more money, but honestly you can get an unlocked phone anywhere, but you do wanna make sure it'll support those frequencies. And it may be in fact, I don't know what at and T has done.

Leo Laporte: (02:12:36)
I, you know, I wouldn't, these guys are a little predatory. I wouldn't put it past them to say, we're gonna make sure that, you know, nobody uses our, our frequencies except phones we sell. Maybe they did that. Maybe they did that, but, uh, I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised. And again, who cares, who cares? Right. Do you really need that speed? That's a nice phone. You're gonna like it a lot. Uh, has a very nice version of Android on it that was developed by OnePlus. Um, I think they're good phones. Oh, good. All right. All righty. Thank you very much. You're welcome.

Leo Laporte: (02:13:10)
It just won't get the super fast speed. I'll be honest with you. I was at, uh, California department of motor vehicles. I don't and I don't, I, I just, I thought I'm looking at my phone. Oh, I'm seeing, um, I've never seen this before. Designation on, on my phone. I did a screenshot of it so I can, uh, I could pull it up and I could tell you it was, um, 5g and the next to it had UC. I've never seen that before. Let me do a speed test. 503 megabits down 15.6 mega bits up on, uh, on the cellular band. That's crazy.

Leo Laporte: (02:13:58)
Now of course, I don't get that anywhere else in town. I have to go to DMV to get that kind of speed, but honestly, do I need 500 megabits down? That's that's faster than most home internet, right? That's faster than most work internet. Um, but what would you need? 500 megabits down for? There's not, I can't think of much, especially on a phone. Right. So, but I was impressed. So there you go. Um, T-Mobile at and T and Verizon all putting in these, uh, well at T Verizon are putting in these, uh, C band. I'm not sure what the five UC is. Leo Laport, the tech guy. What is the use? I should look that up. T-Mobile Five UC. It's a new icon. Okay. To tell you when you have real 5g, it stands for ultra confusing. okay. Uh, ultra capacity. Okay. Ultra capacity. So 5g means low band with is that 700 megahertz, you know, no better than LTE basically. Uh, but it it's, it's low frequency, which means it goes everywhere. Right? So it's 5g technologies over the same frequencies as LTE. Right. Uh, you see though, is T-Mobile's mid band something that cut from sprint, I guess, or it's high band millimeter wave.

Leo Laporte: (02:15:40)
If you can get it anyway, I guess in Petaluma, I've got UC in, you know, at DMV I have to be over at DMV. I think the DMV is probably near the highway. I noticed some new towers went up the, on the highway. That's probably what it is.

Leo Laporte: (02:16:07)
Yeah. I mean, there's reasons you wouldn't want that speed, including the bandwidth caps. Leo Laport, the tech I 88, 88 ask Leo. So, uh, the verge had a good article, um, explaining all of this nutty phone stuff T-Mobile, uh, acquired when it merged with sprint something, they call 5g UC, which the verge Joly said is ultra confusing. No, it stands for ultra capacity and it is in fact that mid band 5g. And that's why I was getting 500 megabits, uh, down. It's pretty and impressive. The slower, uh, low band that T-Mobile and others offer really is, is basically LTE, you know, using the 5g technology. So it's not much faster. And again, what am I gonna do with 500 megabits down? I mean, it's nice. It's faster than my home internet, I guess, webpages, you know, fly up and, uh, an email, you know, S quickly.

Leo Laporte: (02:17:12)
But if you have that much bandwidth and you, but you still have bandwidth caps, all that means is you're gonna use up your available gigabytes pretty darn quickly. So that's not a good thing. It's mostly, I think it's mostly a marketing battle between team mobile and at and T and, uh, Verizon, Verizon, uh, has UW ultra wide band. That's its uh, millimeter wave, which no one gets you have to be within. I think it was 80 feet of, or is it 800, maybe it's 800 feet of the tower. So you have to be fairly close. Uh, and it's only available in very limited areas. They're slowly rolling that out bit by bit. T-Mobile uh, again wants to get that ultra capacity out to more and more people.

Leo Laporte: (02:18:03)
And of course at and T has, uh, low band 5g and they call their millimeter wave higher speed 5g. Plus I don't know if at and T uh, uh, what they're gonna designate their, uh, C band, the middle stuff. As I don't see that on here. That's the one that, of course the F FAA and the FCC got in a battle over because, uh, some airplane manufacturers saying, we're saying, well, that's gonna screw up our altimeters. You don't want planes to crash. Do you? They've? I think they've kind of solved that one cuz at and T and Verizon spent billions of dollars for that middle band frequency and not to be able to use it would be a problem for them. And again, uh, you know, I think if you're getting on your phone anywhere, probably most phones are getting around 20 megabits. Download speeds.

Leo Laporte: (02:18:54)
A couple of megabits upload speeds. That's that's LTE. That's plenty. 4g. That's plenty. I mean, I guess if you're, are you watching movies on your phone? What are you doing that you need more than that? And in most cases, uh, on most networks I've, I'm getting more like a hundred megabits, like a lot, again, more than enough. So don't worry so much about, you know, whether you can get those magic frequencies. I think that's probably not the most important thing to look at in the phone. Right, Jim, from EE California's next? Hi Jim Leo Laport, the tech guy.

Caller #1: (02:19:33)
Hello Leo. Thanks for taking my call. Thanks for calling. I have a Mac computer. Yeah. On the kinda put on the tabletop. Okay. And um, I basically go on YouTube and I watch videos and then, uh, I put a comment down. Yeah. And then I go and look at another video and I'm um, like saying, looking at motorcycles and reading the reviews. Right? Yeah. And um, so the comment I met, I wrote about how I like Ford must GTS and then I'm looking at the motorcycle review and it says, I love Ford busting GTS. And it auto puts my comment in that video. Oh,

Leo Laporte: (02:20:14)
That's wrong. Yeah.

Caller #1: (02:20:16)
And it leaves them wherever I go, like a little bunny rabbit leaving my little press. So

Leo Laporte: (02:20:21)
Wait a minute, you leave a comment on one video and, and team and, uh, YouTube is putting it on other videos on the same subject, but not the same video.

Caller #1: (02:20:29)
Exactly.

Leo Laporte: (02:20:31)
Well, that bad old YouTube.

Caller #1: (02:20:33)
Yeah. And so isn't like, I'm clicking on reply or remark. It's just doing it. It just lays it, it just lays it down there. So then I go, okay, let me delete it. And let me delete a couple times. And now it will not allow me to delete it. So then I would edit it and now allow me to edit it. And then if I try to edit it, it just puts it down again.

Leo Laporte: (02:20:58)


Caller #1: (02:21:02)
I got

Leo Laporte: (02:21:03)
What is going

Caller #1: (02:21:04)
On? Do I have David or a, which one is it?

Leo Laporte: (02:21:09)
Uh, you got hell 9,000. Yeah. I'm sorry, Dave, but you can't do that. Yeah. Um, that is weird. I've never heard of such a thing.

Caller #1: (02:21:21)
Yep. Four year old Mac, maybe five.

Leo Laporte: (02:21:24)
I don't think it's the Mac. Okay. I think it's, it's YouTube. I mean the look you can, you, if you manually copied the comment, you don't, are you copying it on your clipboard? No, you're never typing command C no.

Caller #1: (02:21:41)
Yeah. It's just little me, right. Five word sentence.

Leo Laporte: (02:21:47)
So I'm looking on YouTube help. And somebody has posted this. This is three years ago when I comment a video, the comment is sometimes copied several times up to 17 comments. uh, to which the response seems to be. It's just a bug it's not related to the Mac. Uh, by the way the person says I can't even delete the repeated comments. Exactly.

Caller #1: (02:22:17)
Yep.

Leo Laporte: (02:22:18)
Um, are you using any browser extensions?

Caller #1: (02:22:24)
Well, I have, um, the Google Chrome.

Leo Laporte: (02:22:29)
That's the browser, but you don't have any YouTube like YouTube DL extensions or YouTube buddy or anything installed, do you? No, no, no. Cause some, there are extensions quite a few of them to quote, improve your YouTube experience. And one of the improvements might be, I don't know, let's copy everything everywhere. Uh, but if you're not using those, I would go into your Chrome, your browsers extensions. And just to look what extensions you have. I think it's in the advanced section of the settings, uh, just to see what extensions are installed. This is something everybody should do all the time because, uh, one of the, the ways malware authors try to get their stuff. It's usually not a virus. It's usually just adware where they kind of pop up ads or change their own. But one of the ways they do that is by hijacking your browser and they do that by installing extensions and it's even possible to install extensions without people's, uh, approval or kind of sneak it in.

Leo Laporte: (02:23:24)
So it's a good idea, period. I always do this to go to your browser, make sure you're running extensions you want and nothing. You're not looking for. That's the only thing I can think of. It may just be a bug. Uh, it it's in, in YouTube. Um, one thing you could do is clear, uh, your cash, uh, on your Chrome browser. Maybe it's got a corrupted data cash and it's somehow that could, that could be it. Um, it, you could clear your browser history on, uh, on your browser just to see if that fixes it. Okay. Yeah. That's a that it's not the Mac. It might be Chrome. It might be YouTube itself. Uh, I would investigate chromes to make sure it's all operating as expected. No additional extensions, clear the cash, reset it. Um, others, you know, in our chat room saying, yeah, I've seen that happen. I think, I think it's, um, I think it's a bug said stupid bug, but I understand, you know, you don't want your reputation ruined by, you know, making saying this is a great video on a video. That's terrible reviews that you leave on a video should stay with that video. No other video, obviously computers make mistakes. They do. It's not really computer error. It's the computers, me, exactly what it was told to do. But the human who told the computer what to do was wrong.

Leo Laporte: (02:24:54)
I see that on Amazon, uh, a lot. And I think that's intentional. Amazon's in Amazon's case where a review of a product is not of the one that the listing is for, but of one from the same company or related. I think Amazon often, you know, just takes the reviews and sprays it across everything even close. Maybe that's what Google was doing. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Uh, suggestion from the chairman, which is good. Uh, Alberta guru says, try, try logging out of your, that, you know, have another user profile on your Mac. Always good to have a clean one that you don't use. Log out of your account, log into that dummy profile. See if it still happens there. If it doesn't, this is a great diagnostic tool for all sorts of weirdness on the Mac. If it doesn't, it's tied to your profile on the Mac and that kind of narrows it down, Leo Laport, they call it a personal confuser for a reason. You know what that means? You hear that disco tune. He's dancing in it's dancing. Dick DeBartolo, our disco duck. Hello? Dickie

Speaker 12: (02:26:09)
D Leo, how are you

Leo Laporte: (02:26:11)
Pal? I am great. I got the good. I gotta tell you. I got the upside down. French press came, came, uh, yesterday. Oh, okay. Didn't come. Unfortunately in time, our, our road trip to Carmel, but I made it upside down coffee, uh, yesterday. And it's great. Yes. The essential inverted French press. Exactly. And you, you make it, it's a French press that you pull instead of push the plunger. And then you take the top off. You put the grounds aside and you have a nice little Thermo bottle, which is great. In fact, I should have made some for the show today. I could have had my, my coffee. So thank you.

Speaker 12: (02:26:52)
No, you're welcome. And also you read the directions. I, Dennis was saying, Dick, are you sure you have to be on your head? to make thi you know what, Dennis,

Leo Laporte: (02:27:02)
This is a constant battle in, in the house. There's no directions that came with it, right? So I'm looking at the box. Lisa says, Leo, please watch the video. I said, no, I can figure this out. She says, Leo, you remember when you put the mattress cover on the wrong side, the mattress was upside down. And we were really uncomfortable. Remember that? I said, yeah, said, what did I tell you to do? I said, watch the, she said, watch the video Leo. So I did, fortunately I did go onto the website and they have instructions. It was good. Cuz I had no idea how to use the thing. And I'm glad I watched the video. I did not stand on my head, but I did. I did. I did, uh, sit upside down in a chair. So yeah, just yeah. Anyway, it was, it works. It was really good. I was really impressed. So thank you. Dick joins us every week with a Gimo gadget and I often buy them. I'm ready. Yeah. Well you know you, you

Speaker 12: (02:27:53)
Might buy this too. Okay. So last week I talked about the CDU switch a boat that was 17,999. Yeah, no, no, no. This is 1%. Oh, of that quickly. What's

Leo Laporte: (02:28:06)
The math. Leo 1% is like a dollar 50. I don't know. No, no. It's $10. $17. There you go.

Speaker 12: (02:28:15)
okay. 1799. Okay. So

Leo Laporte: (02:28:20)
What is it? Is it a boat? Can I say it was around?

Speaker 12: (02:28:24)
No, no, no, no. I got this via Johnny jet. Oh, you know who's every week and I get his newsletter and he said, if you want a neat little Bluetooth travel speaker, get this on Amazon. Oh,

Leo Laporte: (02:28:39)
It's the sign eyes of a shaving cream top. Yeah.

Speaker 12: (02:28:42)
It's called the EWA. E w AWA 1 0 6 mini Bluetooth. Great little, you know what? Let me just, uh, play a little bit. This

Leo Laporte: (02:28:52)
Is the streams are crossing. Johnny jet is giving a recommendation to Dick. Who's giving it to me. Oh, sounds good.

Speaker 13: (02:29:01)
Brand new day and a brand new. That sounds good.

Leo Laporte: (02:29:06)
I like that music too. That's

Speaker 12: (02:29:07)
Good. Yeah. That that's uh, the Western GWAS theme and that way you don't have to worry about YouTube taking anything down.

Leo Laporte: (02:29:14)
No, never play real music. Yeah. Yeah. No. Paul,

Speaker 12: (02:29:17)
Uh, Paul Mitchell gave us the right to yeah, no,

Leo Laporte: (02:29:20)
That's a good song. I just, I actually, the company just made me watch a long slideshow on copyright. all. And I, I hoped professor Laura. I hope you watched it too. Laura. Cuz we can get a lot of trouble for playing, but not that we own that. Not no,

Speaker 12: (02:29:37)
Not that, that one, uh, was pre-cleared already pre-cleared so this little guy it little more than six ounces. Okay. It's Bluetooth only. So there's no, uh, way the wires audio caught into this. How do you charge it? What waterproof? Uh, USB micro. I wish it was USB. Ah, I know, I know. USB's

Leo Laporte: (02:29:57)
All right. I have some lying around for just this occasion. Oh, okay. Very good. It sounds good. And really small. I mean like, uh, the, so like the top on your shaving cream, you know that just the top of that thing thing,

Speaker 12: (02:30:08)
That's a, that's a perfect analogy. That's exactly what it looks

Leo Laporte: (02:30:11)
Like. Yeah. Fits in the Palm of your hand.

Speaker 12: (02:30:14)
Yeah. And on the little video that I made, I throw it in a glass of water. It came out fine. It

Leo Laporte: (02:30:19)
Cost 1% of a sea Dew boat.

Speaker 12: (02:30:23)
Exactly. $17 and 99 cent. I said its a good price. No, I think so too. Yeah. I think so too. And um,

Leo Laporte: (02:30:31)
That's a terrible face by the way. Did you, did you choose the thumbnail for your YouTube video of the week? No they

Speaker 12: (02:30:39)
Did. You know, it's very funny because you know,

Leo Laporte: (02:30:40)
You can choose it yourself. I know

Speaker 12: (02:30:43)
Times I forget to go back and pick a different one. It looks like you bit

Leo Laporte: (02:30:47)
A lemon dude. you don't look happy. Okay. Yeah. So I, I will change that. Yeah. I will change that. There he is much more normal looking and here's I don't know why I'm showing the video. You've got this in your little hand. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I see the video on your website, his with.biz. Wow. You're putting it in a, a cup of water.

Speaker 12: (02:31:08)
Drop it in water. Does it play under

Leo Laporte: (02:31:11)
Water? You

Speaker 12: (02:31:11)
Know what? It plays a little bit. If you drop it in, in water too deep. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. That's neat. No, the funny thing is when I took it out, the musicians were cleaning their ears. I guess

Leo Laporte: (02:31:27)
Tilt in their head. Six to eight hours of playback. It says that's nice. Yeah.

Speaker 12: (02:31:32)
Yeah, exactly. Depending on volume. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's pretty neat for the money.

Leo Laporte: (02:31:38)
I can't believe it's 18 bucks. That seems like. Yeah.

Speaker 12: (02:31:41)
And you know, it's very funny. It ended, uh, a half hour ago it was a lightning deal. Oh no. And, and, and Leo, I, it was so funny. I was reading an article this morning. It said, can I put an Amazon link on Facebook? And it said, Amazon says yes. And Facebook says yes, but wait. So, but wait, when I put, when I plugged our show, I see,

Leo Laporte: (02:32:02)
I'm gonna talk about it goes up. Yeah. They're not, they're not fixed. And

Speaker 12: (02:32:06)
It's sold out.

Leo Laporte: (02:32:07)
It's sold out. Well then wait though, because oh, you could get one it's silver. It's it's 1799. If you get it in black. But if you don't mind getting it in copper or silver it's dollars and 14 cents, the silver is nice. Yeah. Who cares? What color it is. Yeah. You're gonna save a couple of bucks, right?

Speaker 12: (02:32:26)
Yeah. I think it's great. I

Leo Laporte: (02:32:28)
Think it's great. So what would you use this for? You could use it in the shower. Come to think of it.

Speaker 12: (02:32:34)
You can use it in the shower. You know what? I think it's just great to throw in your bag when you travel and you're listening to your, a movie at the hotel and instead of the crappy speakers in your laptop, just

Leo Laporte: (02:32:49)
Does this sound better than your laptop?

Speaker 12: (02:32:51)
Oh my laptop. I mean, I'm sure you probably have a laptop that you know has, uh,

Leo Laporte: (02:32:56)
Yeah. My max pretty good. Well, it doesn't have a, well, maybe does have a sub for, I don't know. Good, good, good. Who knows? Uh, but that's a heck of a deal. All right. I'm gonna buy it. I'm buying it. You win. It comes tomorrow before you do

Speaker 12: (02:33:10)
It. There there's deluxe version, but it weighs more than a

Leo Laporte: (02:33:12)
Pound. Oh no, that's too heavy. Yeah. It's too. Does it sound, did, did you listen to that one? Is it sound I,

Speaker 12: (02:33:18)
No, because I just found out today when I was going, checking out, it said there is a, a deluxe version of this, but also it's $28. Yeah.

Leo Laporte: (02:33:28)
So yeah. Yeah. So why spend more? Yeah.

Speaker 12: (02:33:33)
Yeah. When you want something, this small to throw in a pocket,

Leo Laporte: (02:33:35)
Right, right. Oh. And

Speaker 12: (02:33:37)
It comes with a case and a clip so that you can actually hang it on a backpack and play it or hang it on a, it comes with a very nice travel case. Um, very cool. It's a

Leo Laporte: (02:33:48)
Good deal. Now as always with any of these things, if you go to website, you can see all the information. He's got a link which will give him, I don't know what you get a buck on this. What? You don't get much. What is it? 5%. What's the Amazon? No

Speaker 12: (02:34:02)
Flush the net. It takes two or

Leo Laporte: (02:34:04)
3%. It's just a little, they throw 'em a penny and go here, pick it up. let's let's see you pick it up. Dance monkey. So GIZ, but it is nice. It's helpful. GIW do BI. Yeah, exactly. I, I bought it through your link. G I Z w I Z dot B I Z. Uh, well, I'm just too lazy to type it in. Uh there's if you click the button that says the GWS is the tech guy, uh, you will see right there, uh, that little gadget and all the gadgets he's mentioned on this show, there's also, uh, a page for the stuff he says on world news. Now he does that. ABC's world news now every, uh, every month. And the what the heck is it contest a chance to win an autograph copy of mad magazine you got till the end of, uh, February. Yeah. This month, end of the month to identify a close of a gadget and perhaps be in the running for a autographed copy of mad. Thank you, Dickie D thank you, sir. Have a great day. You too. See you next Saturday, Saturday.

Leo Laporte: (02:35:06)
Uh, thank you to professor Laura, our musical director for making this, uh, show all musical, like thanks to, uh, phone angel, Kim Shaffer for getting you on the air. Thanks especially to you who call and listen. You both serve. I appreciate glad I could be your tech guy. Have a great geek week. Bye-bye well, that's it for the tech guy show for today. Thank you so much for being here and ` forget. TWIT. It stands for This Week in Tech , and you find it at twit.tv Including the podcast for this show. We talk about windows on windows, weekly, Macintosh, a Mac break, weekly iPads, iPhones, Apple watches on iOS today. Security and security. Now, I mean, I can go on and on and on. And of course the big show every Sunday afternoon, this week in tech, you'll find it all@twi.tv and I'll be back next week with another great tech guy show. Thanks for joining me. We'll see you next time.