iOS Today 747 Transcript

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00:00 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Coming up on iOS Today, rosemary Orchard and I talk about apps and accessories for cooking and food. Stay tuned Podcasts you love From people you trust. This is Twit. This is iOS Today, episode 747, with Rosemary Orchard and me, micah Sargent, recorded Tuesday April 1st 2025, for Thursday April 10th 2025. Cooking and food. Hello and welcome to iOS Today, the show where we talk all things iOS, ipados, watchos, visionos, homepodos and all the OS's Apple has on offer. We love to talk about them here on the show to help you make the most of your devices. I am one of your hosts of this show. My name is Micah Sargent.

00:57 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
And my name is Rosemary Orchard and I'm very excited to be here, as always.

01:01 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yes, we have an opportunity today to talk about cooking. You know we've covered different episodes before that have ties to Thanksgiving and ties to, you know, getting the family together and sort of figuring out how you're going to make a meal. This is a little bit more, I think, hands-on, which is interesting, and it's been inspired by something that Rosemary is going to tell us about. But I did just want to say you may have noticed, in that title card I said we are recording this episode on Tuesday, april 1st. Worry not, there are no April fools in this episode. April Fools in this episode, and so you can rest easy knowing that that's the case as we go into it. So let's get underway. Rosemary, what's in your hand?

01:56 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
over there. Well, I mean, I've got a couple of things in my hands here, micah, because I like to cook. This may be a surprise to some of you, may not be a surprise to others, but one of the things that is really tricky, especially if you're cooking like a large joint of meat or similar, is knowing when it's done. Now, some places where you can buy things will tell you, you know, based on the exact weight and this particular cooking temperature, blah, blah, blah. This is how long you need to cook it for. Well, that works great for some things, but for other things it's a little trickier, and so I have been experimenting and I started, actually years ago. I got a meter plus and this is a smart meat thermometer that you stick in whatever it is you're cooking. You open up the app and you say, hey, this is what I'm cooking, this is what I want it to be like. So, for example, it could be a joint of beef medium rare, and it'll tell you okay, like you know, I'll get back to you when you know it's done, and you can do things like add timers based on, like, the estimated finishing time and so on. But recently I have been discovering that, um, the bluetooth range on this is not great, so I can be sitting, you know, uh, 20 feet away if that from my kitchen, where my meter base is and it's my my phone keeps saying it's lost its connection to it, which is not amazing. Um, so instead, uh, after doing some research, I found the temp TempSpike.

03:27
Now, tempspike are made by a company called ThermoPro and they make a whole range of thermometers, and I got the fancy black and white sets. So there's two probes here, one black and one white, and then actually on the physical device it's got black and it's got white. And one thing about this which I really appreciate is the fact that this has got a USB-C port on it for charging, so I no longer have to have spare AAA batteries in my kitchen and I can see on the actual device I just realized the plastic is still on there, which I probably don't need because I've already used it a few times I can actually see the individual battery values for each one. I have the option of turning on a light on it or turning it off, and then there are some settings options, but the way that this works is through my phone basically. So here in the app I can see. I have my temperature or my temp spike set up and so I can actually see a nice picture of the device. So I know what it is. I can see each probe the black one and the white one and if I remove one of them from the case then it will actually start giving me the option to set things up and so on. So I can see. I'm currently holding it in my hand. So it's 25 degrees. Ambient temperature around, which is based on the main body of the unit, is 23 degrees and you know, I can then set up things like alarms and vibrations and go through cooking profiles.

04:58
So I could say I'm cooking beef, I'm cooking fish, I'm cooking ground beef or ground poultry, etc. I can also add a custom option as well, um, which is quite nice. So if I were to say, okay, I'm going to cook uh, beef, then I can actually tap on that and say, okay, I would like to cook this rare or well done um. And so if I want for say well done, then it will walk me through inserting the spike which has a little uh on it and you always have to insert it past that for safety so that it doesn't explode or anything, and then you put this at least a foot away and this actually has magnets on the back, which is why I'm showing you the back of it, so this will like magnetize to something else.

05:39
In your kitchen.

05:40
I happen to have one of those IKEA like weird little miniature island things which is opposite my cooker, which is in the perfect place for this, and then, yeah, it will get on with it and once the temperature starts rising, it will then calculate how long is left.

05:56
And let me know, and what is quite nice about this is you may have, you know, two different things that you need to cook at the same time, different things that you need to cook at the same time, and you want to be told about each of them when they're done. And you can do that, or you can cook things in sequence and you just don't have to worry so much about cleaning in between, and I just find that this is a really handy gadget to have in my kitchen that both promotes food safety, because I'm definitely not eating undercooked chicken. Thank you very much. That's not one of my life goals, but yes, then you know, I have all of the options for you know cooking things, and I really like the fact that I can just add whatever it is that I would like for the cooking.

06:39 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, I, this is really neat.

06:41
There have been multiple ways this classic way, right, of using a quick read thermometer that requires you, in almost every case, to open up the heating container and check the temperature, which will immediately stop it from being as hot as it was.

07:07
There are sort of probes that are kind of one purpose, the turkey probes, for example, where you pop it in and it's this little thing that whatever's inside melts at the perfect temperature that it's supposed to be for a turkey, and then it pops out these more precise probes that can be there for the whole cooking process.

07:30
That, I think, is what makes this uniquely valuable. And the fact that you have two of them is even better because I know I have certainly taken my quick read thermometer and popped it into one part of the meat that I'm cooking and it's like, okay, it's at 140 or whatever it is that I'm trying to get to, depending on the type of meat, and I'm like, okay, we're good, but then I just go boop and pop it into another. It's like 10 degrees cooler and I'm going, oh no, so being able to, even if it's just, you know, if you're not cooking two things at once, if you're cooking one thing and you want to make sure that across the entire slab of meat it's all the same temp is fantastic, so I think this is a really uniquely valuable you know option in that way. Now is you said, it's all bluetooth or is it?

08:29 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
uh, wi-fi? Okay, yeah, so this works via bluetooth, um, and that applies for both the meter this one is the meter plus um, but all the meter options and um, the temp spike, uh, temp spike. I will say a massive advantage of the temp spike stuff versus the meter stuff is, uh, their products start at around 90 and the cheapest meter starts at about 130 um, so that is definitely something to bear in mind if you're considering one of these smart gadgets, uh, for your kitchen. I also personally greatly appreciate the fact that the temp spike has that display built in so I can see on the display, without getting out my phone or anything else, what's currently going on. And they have different ones with like little displays that you can like stand up in various places as well, or whatever it is that suits you. So, yeah, I personally are. I'm really enjoying the thermo pro range of uh gadgets. I also got one of their instant read ones for just checking, like dough and stuff, as I'm proofing it, to see what the temperature is.

09:37 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Yeah, this, I think, again, is just amazing. Sometimes, the technology that we have received over time, that has come around over time, and when it comes to precise cooking temperatures, and when it comes to precise cooking temperatures, this is certainly one of your options. Now we've got some of the accessories right, but when it comes time to figure out what we're making and how to make it, I know there's an app, rosemary, that you very much enjoy. I think Paprika has gotten a lot of attention on this show, and so I'm not going to talk about Paprika again. It's been the longstanding app in both Leo and my app arsenal, but there is a contender that has come along and done some very clever things that I think set it apart, and so I was hoping you could tell us about that in just a moment.

10:36 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
So Crouton is one of my favorite applications because it does more than just recipe storage. So, to start with, I'm in the main tab of CrewChamp right now and I have meal planning. So you can look at yesterday and see I had quick beef and broccoli noodles. Today I'm having baked oatmeal muffins, which were breakfast, I'll admit. Tomorrow is some not-so-sun-dried tomato sauce, which I'll probably have with pasta, creamy garden pasta, no-knead cinnamon rolls, amazing omelette muffins, um, and I can add um as much meal planning and sections as I want to each day. So, for example, for today, I could add a section for breakfast and then I can just move those baked oatmeal muffins into breakfast, and then I can add a section for, say, dinner, and then I can add a recipe. Now I can either choose a recipe I could have a random recipe, oh, interesting or I can even just add a note so I could say bananas, for example, because I have bananas that need eating, so I could just remind myself of that. Now, one of the things that I love about crouton in fact there's a whole bunch of things is right. Here I can see a sort of weather forecast in my meal planning view, because that, for me, does affect what I want to eat. If it's going to be really, really cold, I'm going to want something like a nice stew that's going to help me feel and stay warm. And if it's really hot, I'm probably not going to want to be cooking and in a hot kitchen for a long period of time. So I'm going to lean more towards fast things, salads, stuff like that. So I have, uh, that view here. I can also tap on the three dots on any day and say, hey, add this to my grocery list, and then it'll come up with absolutely everything that I need here. Um, and I can see, okay, so I've got like flaky sea salt, some garam masala, all of that, and I can add that to my list. And you know, this is, you know, a pretty lovely part of the way that. You know the way that crouton works.

12:35
I can also clear my current week. I could generate a plan for the week now, because I've already got a plan there. I don't need that. And then, when it comes to recipes, I have all of these recipes that I have imported over time, and if I were looking at something and I was like, oh, cinnamon raisin bagels, okay, this looks a little bit off here I can edit the recipe. But then they're at the bottom there's a little re-import button so I can say, hey, can you just go back to the website and try grabbing that again? And there we go. It's grabbed it and it's updated it and it's now a little bit easier to read and it's got all the steps in their different formats. I've got nutrition information here, photos, the website. I can specify what folder this goes into. So I can say, hey, this is, this is more of a breakfast thing, and I can also share things with my household, which is really nice if you would like to use the household features. Obviously there's the groceries, which I've already mentioned, and then there's also discover.

13:30
Now, a couple of the things that Crouton has been working on recently involve AI. So AI for helping you discover recipes, create recipes, tweak recipes and also import recipes, because I don't know about you, micah, but one of the things I hate the most when I'm looking for a recipe is I find something and I'm like title, this sounds exactly like what I want, and you start reading. Once upon a time, in a kingdom far, far away, there lived a young prince in a shining castle whose great-grandmother had an ex-husband, or was a widow and her husband had had a vineyard and in the vineyard there were these ants and somebody one day had covered them with chocolate. And this is how we're going to make cinnamon raisin bread. And you're like, hang on a minute, six years going to make cinnamon raisin bread. And you're like, hang on a minute, six years of scrolling.

14:19
Later you finally get to the recipe and then you try to import it and it's all weirdly formatted, because a lot of the people that are writing recipe sites don't necessarily know how you can make this stuff easy to read. Now, one trick that you can absolutely use for the a lot of those websites is to use a print button, if they have one, because that gets rid of a whole bunch of junk that you don't want there. But the other trick that you can use is importing things with Crouton, and you can also export a bunch of things from Crouton and share them to somebody else so that they can import them. Crouton also has the option to import from paprika, but one of the things I really love about this is I actually have the option within Crouton to share a recipe, so there is a little share button here and I can share this as a Crouton file. I can share this as a PDF, plain text or marked out. So if I wanted to send this to Micah, then I can actually do that and I can export it. And what I'm actually going to do is I will just drop it into Yoink, a second, which is one of my favorite little handy apps Not necessarily great for this sort of thing generally, but really great for what I am doing here.

15:31
For because it's just a temporary thing to keep the file around, just a temporary thing to keep the file around. And, as you can see, this is now a nicely formatted recipe, which is great. For, you know, my mom says, hey, like I want to get this recipe from this website and print it, but it wants to take 10 pages on the printer. Can you help me? And I go sure, I'll import it into Crouton and then export it back out and it'll send all that information to her. And now it's down to two pages, which is much more readable. Now, inside of Crouton, I have the option to start cooking and it's got a hands-free mode so I can either I can swipe and tap on the screen, but I can also wink and I can open my mouth to get more information about the ingredients, and so on and so forth.

16:19 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I still just think that's so wonderful, especially if you are cooking with meat, like we were talking about earlier. Yes, you got meat hands.

16:26 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Yeah, it's like, okay, dice a chicken, wait, how much chicken was it that I needed to dice? And you open your mouth and then you can see, obviously, cinnamon raisin bagels shouldn't have chicken in them. Um, that that's something that you should hopefully not have in your cinnamon raisin bagels, but if you did, um, you know that it's really useful for just checking, you know, as you chop things and chuck it into a bowl on your scale. Um, then you can uh see that, speaking of scale, now there are a couple of things that you can actually connect to Crouton, which I personally think is amazing. So, if you have a thermometer so similar to the temp spike or the meter, if you have one for a company called Combustion, which I personally don't have any experience with, you can connect it to Crouton.

17:16 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
As set it up from Crouton um.

17:19 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Similarly, if you have smart scales, um, so these are specifically from the brand called akaya, I think that's how you pronounce it. So if you've got the pearl lunar pisces I don't know how to pronounce that, but either way, if you've got supported scales, you can also connect that to crouton so that it can tell you like, hey, this is the right amount of this, uh, which is pretty freaking cool, um, so what? Something else you can do is a quantity popover, scaling your ingredients. So if I said, hey, uh, you know, this is making enough for 10 people right now, can I make enough for two and a half people? Because you know I'll eat some extra? Um, then I can do that. Or I could say, hey, I want to make enough for 100 people. Um, I'm, I'm gonna need to take out a mortgage, uh, to make enough bagels for 100 people, I think, um, because that that seems like a lot of ingredients there. But you know that it's quite useful. Also, if you've imported a recipe. Say, for example, you're in the? U US and you've imported a recipe from the BBC Good Foods website, well, you may find it's in metric, so you can convert everything to Imperial. Um, you can see everything in its original form, or you can have everything in um, metric or whatever it is that you prefer. Um, I can also.

18:33
Personally, I really liked the division of prep time versus cook time. Like, okay, it might say it takes like four hours to make, but three and a half hours of that or something sitting in a slow cooker or in the oven or low temperature. That's fine, I have time for that. I don't have time for two hours 15 minutes of prep right now, so I'm not going to make the cinnamon raisin bagels, but yeah, it's really nice. There's also a timer option in here which, if you have a Vision Pro, you can grab the timer and stick it on the individual thing that you need the timer on.

19:08
I love that. If you look at it through your Vision Pro, you can be like oh yeah, the chicken needs another 20 minutes to marinate, the dough needs another 15 minutes to rise, etc. I personally just think this is a really great app. It's got so many cool features in it. Personally just think this is a really great app. It's got so many cool features in it. Um, and yeah, it has um an optional extra in-app subscription of $1.99 a month for crouton, plus, uh, which is um their ai things with um recipe feeds importing from cookbooks. So if you've got physical cookbooks uh, I have one here actually which is a bunch of ice cream recipes because it's getting to that time of year. So say, for example, I were to open this and go, hey, that recipe for peach ice cream, I want to put that in Crouton. Therefore, $1.99 extra a month, I can unlock that. And yeah, other than that, it's free to download and try out for up to five recipes, or at 6.99 a year after that.

20:06 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
Beautiful. That is Crouton Well worth checking out, especially as we showed the different hands-free options. I think that's such a even just as a cool demo. This is very clever To round things out for sort of getting your cooking and food in line. It's an opportunity to talk about one of the major use cases for the smart speakers in our lives. Many of you who have owned Echo devices have probably used them to set timers. Your HomePods can do that too. So can your Apple Watch. My Apple Watch is my favorite timer right there on my wrist. But if you are busy again with meat hands, all you got to do is speak out loud to the nearest HomePod and it can keep track of your timers. Loud to the nearest HomePod and it can keep track of your timers. And you know people celebrated at the introduction of multiple timers. Tell us about getting those timers to see what's actually running.

21:15 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Yeah.

21:16
So one of the things that I often wonder about and usually this happens when I've wandered off to a different room. So I have a home pod mini in my kitchen, I have home pods in my living room, so I wander off to a different room like just to sort things out, because I know I've got like 30 minutes for this thing to cook and then I go hang on a minute. Did I remember to set a timer for, like in the middle, to just like rotate things and check that everything's okay and that you know there's nothing that needs tweaking in in the cooking? Or you know I have six timers like how long do I actually have, like do I have enough time to run out and take out the recycling and and all those things? So one of the things I do when that happens is I open the home app now I filtered over here on the right to speakers and tvs. You don't have to do that, I've just done that because I have quite a few devices here and then if I tap on the right-hand side of my kitchen HomePod where I can see the fact that it says HomePod not playing, not the icon, but the other side and then I scroll up a little bit, I can see there's a pasta timer with just over 10 minutes remaining, and that's quite handy because now I can see that and actually I could, if I needed to, I could pause it, I can cancel it, I can say, hey, no, actually I forgot to put the paster on, and obviously I can go back and I can talk to the HomePod. But especially if you are, say, on the phone, with somebody randomly talking to your HomePod while you're on the phone, can be quite confusing for them. So it is nice to be able to do this and also to just cancel your timer or create another timer. And one of the things I really like about timers on like smart home devices versus on my Apple Watch or my iPhone, is it doesn't matter where my phone is or where I am, or therefore my Apple Watch.

23:04
If somebody else is in the kitchen and the timer goes off and it says pasta, then somebody else can figure out oh hey, that means we need to stop cooking the pasta and drain it, because it's probably done, and I personally feel like the smart speakers are really great. You can also add a timer here and give it a name, which is really nice, and, if you would like to, on your iphone as well, using that magic voice assistant that the apple lady that we all know and love, um, at least, when she doesn't say let me google that for you, um, then um, you can also add multiple timers. And just don't forget to set the name of the timer. And this is the trick if you want to have multiple timers running at the same time, you need to give them names, because otherwise it's just going to say your timer is done, your timer is done, your timer is done. But if it doesn't have a name, then when you say, hey, set a five minute timer, if there's already a 10 minute timer running, it'll replace that.

23:58
And another thing that I found really useful is if I say, hey, apple lady, set a 12-minute timer for pasta. And then five minutes later I come along I say, hey, apple lady, set a 12-minute timer for pasta, she'll go hey, you already have a pasta timer. Do you want to set a? Like, do you want to replace that timer? Like, update that. And I'm like oh, yes, please. Because I didn't actually put the pasta in. When I thought I did, like I set the timer, I forgot the crucial step of putting the pasta in the water or something like that. So, yeah, it is very nice to play with these timers and, yeah, actually see, you know what you need to do there, which is great. And so, yeah, I've been using timers an awful lot for all sorts of things, micah, and it's quite useful to be able to do that.

24:46
Of course, if you do it on the iPhone, then you have the live activities on your lock screen, but personally I prefer the HomePod because then it just interrupts whatever's playing in the kitchen, if anything is playing, and lets whoever is there know. And also, don't forget, if you have a timer or an alarm going off on a device in your house, it doesn't matter if it's not necessarily your device, as long as it's part of your household's devices. And it doesn't matter if you're in the right room. You can just say, hey, apple lady, stop that timer. And the series will talk to each other. They will confirm like hey, would you like to stop the timer in the kitchen? Would you like to stop the alarm on Rosemary's iPhone? And you say yes, and then it stops it. And that is quite useful to know if you are, for example, in the bathroom and you can just hear it going off and you're like I will be there in a minute, like the world is not going to end. It may go from medium, rare to medium, but you know what?

25:53 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I go from medium, rare to medium, but you know what I'm in the bathroom. There's only so much I can do right now. All right, that is a look at some options when it comes to kind of better monitoring your cooking and making food. If you have accessories that you use with your devices or apps that you think are great, of course you can always email us, iostoday at twittv, with your thoughts Up. Next, a little bit of news. I wanted to mention that Apple has rolled out as of yesterday we're recording this on April 1st yesterday, monday March 31st 2025, 31st yesterday, monday March 31st 2025, apple rolled out a series of updates, including iOS 18.4. If you don't have the latest update, well, now's the time to get it. There are quite a few new features for Apple intelligence users, or havers, I guess, for those who have Apple intelligence on their devices. Priority notifications have officially come to the system completely, so now you can see those notifications at the top of your notification stream.

26:55
I've been using that a little bit and I hate it Just putting that out there. It did not work well for me putting that out there. It does. It did not work well for me, but it is a feature that is available and if you, basically it uses your behaviors and its own sort of AI understanding to try to present the most important notifications to you. Perhaps that's a message, perhaps it's an Amazon, you know. Hey, you've got something delivered.

27:29
I will say my problem with it was when I had group chats, because it determined that I had spoken to one of the people more often than I had spoken to others. Then it would surface that person's notifications in the priority part but keep everybody else's responses buried beneath everything. And I can understand, if it's an individual conversation with that person, why you would prioritize that. But for the group chat that didn't work because I was waiting for responses from other people and was not seeing them because of the way that the priority notifications were set up. So I want to. I don't want to just complain about a thing without explaining why it didn't work for me. So that is, that is the way that it didn't. So I ended up disabling that. But Apple Intelligence's image playground has a new style called Sketch, and so Sketch is kind of a sort of drawing sketchy style.

28:32
Outside of that, if you have an app, I won't read all of these because you should go check them out but Apple Vision Pro. If you have an Apple Vision Pro, you will find a new app on your iPhone that is called the Apple Vision Pro app. It basically lets you find new stuff to check out, quickly access information about your device so you can see oh yeah, that's what this does and be able to kind of learn about new what they call spatial experiences. Apple News Plus this is a very important episode, for this now has recipes, and so these are curated recipes that include a special catalog so you can browse and look for your specific recipes that you like. That you've added with a cooking mode as well, so, being able to keep track of your, you know the recipe that you're making. Now, to be clear, the cooking mode doesn't come anywhere near as close to any of the more powerful cooking apps, so this is definitely not a Sherlock situation. Powerful cooking apps so this is definitely not a Sherlock situation. This is just an another option for you if you maybe have not downloaded a third party cooking app.

29:50
Photos also got some updates, mostly around filtering and organizing photos, and some updates to the sort of family system where parents have a little more control over some of the issues that have come up in the past, like a child being able to reset an app limit by uninstalling and reinstalling an app. Now, that is not possible. That app limit will stay. So kids who have been using that to bypass the app limit will be disappointed to hear that that update is coming to place. And then, also, helping make it easier to create a child account and set up the proper settings for that child is something that's been added. Rosemary, anything that you want to, oh, oh, oh. One more that I wanna mention that I'm very excited about, and then, rosemary, you take it away. Finally, finally, if you have a robot vacuum cleaner, that is Matter, oh no.

30:52 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Oh no, okay, you can do it.

30:54 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
You do it, rosemary, tell us, tell us. It's very exciting.

30:57 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Well, if you have one of 12 or 13 robot vacuums, then, as of iOS 18.4, then you can add that into HomeKit. Now, this is limited right now to a subset of smart vacuums whose providers have updated their vacuums, and so there are seven, I believe, from Roborock, including the S8, a couple of the Saros models and the Cuevo model, the Curved Edge master there and if, like me, you have an Omni Ecovacs one, then some of their dbot models unfortunately not mine have been updated to support this as well. Mine is unfortunately, apparently slightly too old. However, I am thinking that Home Assistant is going to be adding support for adding robot vacuums into HomeKit through Home Assistant. So if you have an older model that is supported through Home Assistant, then you may be able to add it to HomeKit in the hopefully not too distant future, though not with their release. That is coming as of tomorrow, as when we record this.

32:06
There's also a SwitchBot model which supports this, and iRobot has said that the Roomba Combo 10 Max robot vacuum and auto wash dock will be adding support for this, but they haven't specified when that is coming Now. What is really cool to know is if it does have vacuum and mop support. Then you'll be able to choose what you want to do through HomeKit, through the Apple Home integration with it, and you'll be able to do things like start it running, stop it running and things like that. However, your more fancy things like you know defining, you know no-go areas and stuff like that, you are going to have to go back to the original app, so either the Roborock app or the Ecovacs app or whatever it is to adjust those. But hey, now if you have a leafless tree emoji in your life and therefore you have a lot of leaf emojis littering your floor, you can use HomeKit to control your robot vacuum to go and vacuum them up.

33:04 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
I would like to say that I have been testing an Ecovacs model that supports this. Of course, up to this point, only Google offered the Matter-enabled sort of home integration, and so I've been waiting for this 18.4 update to hit, and it is very cool to finally have it right there in the home app. We've been waiting for this for such a long time. It update to hit, and it is very cool to finally have it right there in the home app. We've been waiting for this for such a long time. It's very exciting, so yay. And then, of course if we can scroll to that part of the page, kevin, we would be remiss if we didn't mention the new. He knew right what I was talking about the new emoji available in ios 18.4, including face with bags under eyes, which is very quickly going to become my favorite emoji. Um, the root vegetable, which looks like a beet, but I guess it's just a sort of generic root vegetable I feel like it's more of a radish oh radish.

34:00
You're right. It does look more radishy than beady, doesn't it See? And there's why they just call it a root vegetable. Is it a radish? Is it a beet? Is it a potato? It's definitely not that. A fingerprint, a harp, a leafless tree, a splatter which is purple. I'm curious if it'll have multiple colors or if it's always purple and a shovel so do we need more colors, or is purple just the best?

34:36 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
you know what. You're right. It'd be nice to have green, but I feel like that was a splatter everybody's okay with purple.

34:39 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
It was disrespectful of me to suggest otherwise, and I realized the errors of my ways now. You are absolutely right. Purple is the only color that you need. Um, and so you heard it here, folks. I take it back.

34:53 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Purple is fine I mean it's okay, we can have a green slasher as well, we just don't need any other colors deal.

34:59 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
There are loads of new little tiny changes and, of course, security fixes and updates. Hop on that 18.4 update. I think it's a fun one, but it's also an important one, so be sure to check out the 95 Mac article that we linked. That has all of the features that have been added and, of course, features for watchOS, macos et cetera. That is going to bring us to the end of this episode of iOS Today.

35:26
If you have questions, comments, concerns, you can send those to iOS Today. It's with the TV, but, more importantly, listen up here, listen in. You know what actually, kevin, can you play the music? The shortcut? Yeah, there it is. If you want to keep hearing that delightful music, well then, you need to send in your shortcuts corner requests. Uh, also your your regular questions, too. Any questions you have about ios, your shortcuts corner requests for ros. Please be sure to send those in to us so that we can answer those for you. Those all go to iOS today at Twitter TV. If you have sent them, if you've sent in a shortcuts corner request or a question in the past and you feel like we missed it, I give you my official permission to send that in again so that we hit it Because things get filtered, so there's a chance. So, yeah, if you've asked a question and you want it answered and you feel like it hasn't been yet, we'll make sure to look back and say oh no, it actually was answered here. But we want to make sure you get your questions answered and, more importantly, we love being able to answer those questions and I love seeing the delightful and amazing shortcuts that Rosemary makes for the show as well.

36:55
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37:49 - Rosemary Orchard (Host)
Well, the best place to go is rosemaryorchardcom, which has got links to apps, books, podcasts and, of course, all the social media sites where you can find me. Plus, you can find me hanging out in the Club Twit Discord, where there is a dedicated iOS Today area where we post a post for every episode and also we've got a general discussion area and there's also a live chat while we're recording live. So if you happen to be around while Twit's recording things live, then you can join in and chat with everybody else about the episode as it's made. Micah Workins folks find you.

38:19 - Mikah Sargent (Host)
If you're looking for me online, I'm at Micah Sargent on many a social media network, or you can head to Chihuahuacoffee. That's C-H-I-H-U-A-H-U-Acoffee, where I've got links to the places I'm most active online, so be sure to head there and check it out. Thank you so much for tuning in to this week's episode of iOS Today. We'll be back next week. Thank you, bye.